Spyderco HAP40 Thread

My HAP40 Delica leads a pampered lifestyle in its box inside an air tight bin. I'm waiting for the Stretch to EDC. My sister has been carrying hers, though. She said it din't come with a very good edge, so I'll bring the Sharpmaker with me the next time I see her. She also has the HAP40 Endura she's been raving about. She will probably like the Delica just as much or more once it's nice and sharp. Even a novice like me can get a decent edge out of the Sharpmaker.
 
anyone else getting dents on the spine from carrying with other items in your pocket? that sus seems almost too soft to me.
 
Okay, damn it all. I need one of these. I already have an Endura, and I don't plan on starting an Endura collection, and I need another small and inoffensive folder...so I'm going for the Delica. :)
 
Just received my Hap40 Endura and DAMN this thing in clean. Was never really into the Endura line but this thing immediately made me want to get one of the VG-10 models. This blade is incredible. That burnt orange is awesome, great job Spyderco.
 
duro said:
anyone else getting dents on the spine from carrying with other items in your pocket? that sus seems almost too soft to me.
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I carry mine clipped so I don't have that issue but... The idea is for the clad metal to be soft so it's going to scratch easily and dent easily. Making it harder would defeat the whole concept of the San Mai blade.
 
SpeedHoles said:
I wrote this over there as well...

Nice elaborate break down, Lance. I usually don't go as far as head to head comparisons between steels, other than just comparing daily use between knives (very unscientific). But I do enjoy seeing what others come up with.
I can relate to much of what you mention, and agree.

I don't really mind if I have to get on the Sharpmaker for touchups. It gives me a chance to look over my knife and can be enjoyable. (Sometimes I feel like some people begging for S110V in everything are just hoping to avoid ever using a sharpening device.)



Has anyone else noticed chipping?
I have not.
No chipping experienced on either of my HAP40 knives.
Just thought I would ask.
Was a bit baffled to see a mention of chipping above...


So far all-around this is a very enjoyable steel for a knife user. Great match for this Seki Sprint Run!
I really dig patina, but slow and easy and not overreactive is great for an edc.





Oh, and I will add the fact that I have noticed these HAP40 knives may be healthier for your diet!

I find myself buying and eating larger quantities of fruits and vegetables for snacks than normal, just so I can enjoy slicing and peeling them! :D :p


Now, when will it come forth in a Caly!?!
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I mentioned chipping because I could've sworn when looking through the loupe that there were very fine microchips on the edge after sharpening on the medium SM stones. I guess I was mistaken and my eyes were playing tricks on me. I have since been able to get it quite sharp.

Thanks Surfingringo for confirming that it is relatively easy to take it to hair whittling.
 
ejames13 said:
I mentioned chipping because I could've sworn when looking through the loupe that there were very fine microchips on the edge after sharpening on the medium SM stones. I guess I was mistaken and my eyes were playing tricks on me. I have since been able to get it quite sharp.

Thanks Surfingringo for confirming that it is relatively easy to take it to hair whittling.
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Thanks for clarifying that and keeping us updated! Helps to clear up any concerns some readers may have had when reading your initial post. :thumbup:
 
Jason B. said:
I carry mine clipped so I don't have that issue but... The idea is for the clad metal to be soft so it's going to scratch easily and dent easily. Making it harder would defeat the whole concept of the San Mai blade.
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Yeah, most always clipped, and I never float my knives in pockets with other items. Just simply a bit unorganized and uncomfortable, from my view. (Not that others shouldn't do it the way they see fit...)


So far my HAP40 cladding hasn't scratched quite as easily as my Super Blue cladding did. But either way, I fully expect it to get scratches and it doesn't bother me.
 
Really interesting and compelling review, Lance! My resolve to hold out for a Sretch is weakening. I already have a Superblue Stretch amd I don't have an Endura. Think I may have to break down and go for the Endura, while they are available.
 
Evany said:
Really interesting and compelling review, Lance! My resolve to hold out for a Sretch is weakening. I already have a Superblue Stretch amd I don't have an Endura. Think I may have to break down and go for the Endura, while they are available.
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That was my outlook.
Never had much desire or appeal to buy another Endura, until this run came along. Happy I did. :)
 
Still haven't got a ton of use out of my Delica being winter and all but do far so good. I've cut two pinky width trees clean off and several boxes open. Cuts beautifully. So Hap40 is supposed to dull fast?
 
I was having some binding issues while cutting and decided to thin the edge a bit. I was maintaining the factory bevel which was fairly nice but I would guess it was around 40 inclusive and that is much too thick for me. I started with my Kohetsu 800 and finished with the 2k much sharper now with better cutting performance and no binding. Probably 30 inclusive now.

Here you can see the old edge (1200 DMT) on the lower half and the 800 grit new bevel starting on the shoulder.

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And just before the the new bevel is complete,


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The edge is not very shiny in person but caused all sorts of issues with pictures so this is the best I could do,

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So Hap40 is supposed to dull fast?
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No, HAP40 is a very hard steel with a good blend of alloy elements to make it very tough and wear resistant. It has excellent edge retention in my short experience with it so far.
 
Jason B. said:
I was having some binding issues while cutting and decided to thin the edge a bit. I was maintaining the factory bevel which was fairly nice but I would guess it was around 40 inclusive and that is much too thick for me. I started with my Kohetsu 800 and finished with the 2k much sharper now with better cutting performance and no binding. Probably 30 inclusive now.

Here you can see the old edge (1200 DMT) on the lower half and the 800 grit new bevel starting on the shoulder.

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And just before the the new bevel is complete,


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The edge is not very shiny in person but caused all sorts of issues with pictures so this is the best I could do,

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No, HAP40 is a very hard steel with a good blend of alloy elements to make it very tough and wear resistant. It has excellent edge retention in my short experience with it so far.
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Interesting. I have read others stating that the factory edge on their Hap40 Delica/Endura was around 30deg inclusive. My experience, however, was the same as yours...factory bevel that appears to be around 40deg inclusive. Haven't had the wherewithal to do a new bevel yet. Thanks for the pics!
 
Hmmm... Both my HAP Delicas came around 30 degrees. All my Taichung Spydies have been coming with 40-45 degree bevels but my Seki knives seem close to 30 degrees. I took one of my HAP Delicas down to around 25 degrees and put a 30 degree microbevel on it with the sharpmaker and it is wicked. I have been running my Super Blue Delica at 20 degrees with a 30 degree microbevel for a long time and will do the same with the HAP Delica when I find the time. I love this HAP40 myself.
 
Sal Glesser said:
I'm getting a very slight Patina on the HAP section. Of course, I live in Colorado which is relatively dry. I'd like to hear from those in "rusty" regions?

sal
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Just got in a members Endura but won't have it long enough for EDC type evaluation. :)

Jim
 
Big_jack said:
. So Hap40 is supposed to dull fast?
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No. I think you inferred something that wasn't implied. Compared to S110V it will have less edge retention but be easier to sharpen. Compared to Super Blue it will have more edge retention but be harder to sharpen. There are no free lunches here. My experience has been that it strikes a wonderful balance between the two and meets my needs very well. It seems to hold a very high level of sharpness similar to Super Blue and far better than S110V but at the end of the day (if your day involves marathon cutting) the S110V will still be cutting when the others fall off. I prefer knives that hold a very high level of sharpness through an average day and HAP40 does that well for me and my uses. S110V loses that initial sharpness quicker which doesn't meet my wants and needs. If I have to bone out an elk or break down a bunch of boxes I will take the S110V but for EDC I will take the HAP40. That said, I have been carrying a S110V Para2 and a HAP40 Delica all week and that it a great combo. I get the best of both worlds and am prepared either way.
 
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Been carrying my HAP40 Delica since I got it a couple of weeks ago. Kicked some much "nicer" and pricier knives out of my pocket. Nice to rediscover this awesome model in such an amazing steel. FYI, been just touching it up on the SM at the 30 deg setting and stropping. It is ridiculously sharp!
 
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