Spyderco Military vs. Benchmade Griptilian

thanks guys for all your help... youve decided an indecisive mind... Military it is! i hope. ill see what my dad says. if he deems it too expensive, ill most likely get a GRIPTILIAN. Well, i gotta go, my mom wants to use my computer. Thanks for the quick responses. signing off.
 
onecalledjimbo said:
thanks guys for all your help... youve decided an indecisive mind... Military it is! i hope. ill see what my dad says. if he deems it too expensive, ill most likely get a GRIPTILIAN. Well, i gotta go, my mom wants to use my computer. Thanks for the quick responses. signing off.
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Tom over at SpydercoVT.com has great pricing on everything Spyderco.
 
The Military is a solid knife that has been around for a long time. It would be my choice but I have 4x spydercos vs benchmade. I am a big fan of S30V, I have not had any problems with rust and I have cut a lot of oranges. The Military is a very large knife, it may scare the sheep in an office setting.
 
Tough choice. Both are very excellent knives. If you like to flick your knives, the Grip is probably your better option.

As far as blade play goes, I personally have found the Axis lock knives to have far more horizontal blade play than the Military. When it comes to vertical blade play, the Axis lock is the obvious choice over a liner lock. It's almost impossible for an Axis lock knife to have vertical blade play, even if the fit is slightly off.

Seeing that certain aspects of the locking system seem to be the features of the knife that are very important to you, I guess I recommend the Griptilian.
 
Jimbo,
I would go with the Military. I own a few, and have never had any problems. S30V holds up well, keeps a wicked edge, and doesn't stain or rust easily. If you extremely neglected a satin blade, you may get some rust, or staining. But if you clean your knife after using it....you'll have no problems with S30V.


Josh K said:
Spyderco Military all the way. Those models come with what's called an eccentric pivot screw which allows the blade to be adjusted for wear and tear.

It's slim with a wonderful blade shape. The G-10 is strong, dual nested liners increase strength, but keep it slip, splinter picker tip, round hole, I don't see where you could go wrong with the Military. :)
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The Military no longer uses eccentric pivot screws. Spyderco stopped using them in the Military a few years ago.....If memory serves correctly, the last Military to use them were the BG-42 models.
 
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onecalledjimbo said:
about the liner lock, it is detrimental to the mechanism to open it w/ inertia? i have a cheap knife that i play with and i do it all the time for fun.
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Yes. The harder you flick a liner lock knife open, the faster the liner is going to travel to the close position, and the rougher it's going to be on the tang. That means it's going to "migrate" all the way to the other liner sooner.

KE = .5 * m * v^2
The the kinetic energy is going to increase with v^2, and you raise v^2 the faster you make the liner move.

onecalledjimbo said:
so plain water won't kill a D2 blade? only acids?
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Water will give you some rust if you leave it damp long enough... But I wouldn't worry too much about that; just wipe it when you're done. If you get salt water or some other substance on it, I would rub it down with WD-40 or something.

Out of the two, I'd personally get the 710, mainly for the steel. I'm not afraid of the Military's lock, but I'd still rather have an Axis than a liner. I also like some smaller various things about the 710 like the handle liners, the full backspacer... But I don't like the thumbstud and I'm not too crazy about the recurve.

I wonder what we'd get if a Military and a 710 mated...
 
type00rev said:
The Military no longer uses eccentric pivot screws. Spyderco stopped using them in the Military a few years ago.....If memory serves correctly, the last Military to use them were the BG-42 models.
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:eek: So they aren't adjustable now? Too bad.
 
I’d get both. Lol wait a sec that would be getting spendy, go with the spyderco.
 
Spyderco Military for sure. I started with one and now I have six and climbing.

The Military has had the nuts engineered off it and it is a solid yet light folder that just disappears in your pocket. The Millie is one of my favorite Spydies and represents a good value.
 
onecalledjimbo said:
I like everything about the Military EXCEPT the liner lock. I'm not worried about the strength, but I am worried that it might develop unrepairable blade play.
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The Military does not have any blade play, but the lock will routinely disengage. The cutout on the left G10 scale allows your fingers to depress the liner lock while gripping the handle. I've owned several Militarys, but will never own another until Spyderco corrects this design flaw. Otherwise, the Military is a great design.
 
you my friend are the only Military owner that I know of that has had problems with the lock disengaging. Thats unfortunate.
 
ElectricZombie said:
The Military does not have any blade play, but the lock will routinely disengage. The cutout on the left G10 scale allows your fingers to depress the liner lock while gripping the handle. I've owned several Militarys, but will never own another until Spyderco corrects this design flaw. Otherwise, the Military is a great design.
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It is unfortunate that you have had such an experience, EZ. I have used my Millies in all sorts of grips and applications and have never had a lock release. In fact, other than your post, I have not seen any mention on BF of a failed Military lock. Curious indeed.
 
I'm not sure if you're still considering the 710 but if you are I reckon you'll love it ;-)
Unlikely to have rust problems unless you totally mistreat it, great fun to flick, and a good solid utility/tactical edc IMHO.

Nothing wrong with the Millie (many fans of it here) but from the sound of your questions I suspect you'll prefer the 710.

Good luck, you'll end up both soon enough anyway if the bug has bitten! ;)
 
Go with the Military. You won't look back. The Grip is OK, but, at least to me, it doesn't distinguish itself from lots of other knives that size and shape.

Razz
 
Millie vs Grip (full)

why? honestly.... their two totally different price ranges $115-$136

and $60-$75.

Plus I've seen many threads on the Full-Grip feeling cheap in hand.

You should just compare two spyderco's.



Holla :cool:
 
I've owned my Military for six years now, and if I had to choose again I'd still pick it. It's the best cutter I've owned by far, apart from my slipjoints. That large, flat-ground blade just zips through most materials, and the handle design gives excellent control when making cuts.
 
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