Spyderco Paysan

J.K. Pan

J.K. Pan

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They are charging 580 for it. I just don't understand how can they justify the 160 increase over Nirvana. This is a worrisome trend...

Edit: BladeHQ update the price to 520. Still outrageous tho.
 
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Several factors could be at work, of course just speculation on my part.
1. Testing the market to see what it will bear
2. Collaboration with a custom maker - the custom maker may have specified they didn't want their designs sold below a certain price point.
3. Sometimes company's produce prestige items that are designed more for PR and producing desire for their product line in general, than to create actual sales in quantity.

Ultimately, if they have set the price far too high, they won't sell. But one model won't make or break Spyderco! And if it's #3 they don't care anyway.

Of course, it may be ....

4. None of the above
 
rje58 said:
Several factors could be at work, of course just speculation on my part.
1. Testing the market to see what it will bear
2. Collaboration with a custom maker - the custom maker may have specified they didn't want their designs sold below a certain price point.
3. Sometimes company's produce prestige items that are designed more for PR and producing desire for their product line in general, than to create actual sales in quantity.

Ultimately, if they have set the price far too high, they won't sell. But one model won't make or break Spyderco! And if it's #3 they don't care anyway.

Of course, it may be ....

4. None of the above
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lol, good points. Of course they don't care if the price is too high, as long as they make money-I just thought it is not a healthy trend
 
If you absolutely love the knife and have to have it, I'd understand, but there are so many great customs you can get for less than $580 that I would think twice before buying the Paysan. Based on just a quick look at Arizona Custom Knives, for example, for less than $580 you can get a custom by Chad Nell, Jonathan McNees, Jerry Moen, or Pohan Leu. For $15 more you could get a custom by Allen Elishewitz, Les Voorhies, or Gayle Bradley. But I suppose that if only the Paysan speaks to you, or you already have everything else, then go for it!
 
brancron said:
If you absolutely love the knife and have to have it, I'd understand, but there are so many great customs you can get for less than $580 that I would think twice before buying the Paysan. Based on just a quick look at Arizona Custom Knives, for example, for less than $580 you can get a custom by Chad Nell, Jonathan McNees, Jerry Moen, or Pohan Leu. For $15 more you could get a custom by Allen Elishewitz, Les Voorhies, or Gayle Bradley. But I suppose that if only the Paysan speaks to you, or you already have everything else, then go for it!
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I'd bet there are people who actually have those problems...
 
I think it's either testing the market as rje58 rje58 pointed out, or they are actively trying to curb demand because of supply issues.

Apple recently released their newest phone, the Iphone X, for a whopping $1k. This was about $200 above comparble phones from them in the past, as well as their competition. The reason they priced the phone so high, was to purposely curb demand. The AMOLED screens that they use in the Iphone X are made by Samsung (pretty funny) and Apple's supply is limited because first dibs go to Samsung phones. In order to curb demand and avoid a public outcry, they specifically priced the phone high enough to be out of the reach of most, with the intent to decease prices down the line as supply increases.

If we use that as the case study, it might be that Spyderco's manufacturing partner in Taichung is unable to produce integral knives in the quantities they require for normal runs. By increasing the price drastically, they have caused demand to decrease, and meet the anticipated supply that they will receive.

Food for thought...
 
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Wow. Not happening for me just based on that price. Beautiful knife but is a Taiwan made Spyderco worth more than an American Sebenza 21 with inlays and other boutique American or European knives? FOUR Gayle Bradley 2’s? No ma’am.

I love Spyderco and love their Taiwanese knives, but $580US is just nutty.

IMO, YMMV, my $0.02, etc.
 
I was all in for it, but $580 puts me on the fence. Will see what happens when it comes out.

It also looks like it will actually be harder to make than the Nirvana.

And there has been inflation to contend with, as well as increasing material cost.
 
I need to take a closer look at this one. I'm curious. I can't say it's out of the question for me. But I need to really love this thing to pay that price.
 
700 Euro/ 850 $ . Forget it. I rather get a CKF Satori later or a CKF Kwaiback for that money. :confused:
 
This is lolwut level pricing. I could buy a Sebenza and a knife I liked too for that pricing.

I love Spyderco as much as the next guy, but this is bonkers. On the bright side, pre-order pricing on the model I'm actually interested in (the Smock collab) has it priced quite reasonably.
 
Nope :)

It is a worrisome trend, good offerings from low to mid range producers have done well to slow down the rising price of knives.
 
One of Eric’s comments regarding manufacturing during the initial presentation made me believe the knife would be a lot cheaper than the Nirvana. I was way off.
 
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