Spyderco Paysan

sixate said:
I was really excited for this, figured it wouldn't be cheap...... but that it way overpriced. No way I'm interested now
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Same here. I really love Peter Rassenti's work, but can't really afford custom. If it is nirvana price, I would buy it without blinking.
 
I was holding off on buying some other knives for the moment knowing this was on my radar to purchase later this year. But at this point I don't know....who am I kidding, I will still put the 5 dollars down at Blade HQ and figure out a way to save the money between now and then. $100 seems like a lot of money to add a lock bar insert though lol.
 
I’m on the fence on this one. I love Spydero and could see myself buying this. The Nirvana is still one of my favorite knives in my collection.

I see some guys arguing you can buy a custom for the same amount as the Paysan. Custom vs factory isn’t a valid argument for me. Just because some guy made it by hand doesn’t always make it better than a high end production knife. I’ve handled enough customs to make the decision that they’re not worth the money to me. (This is my personal experience and opinion! I’m not saying every production knife is better than a custom).
 
Never heard of it until this thread. The price seems dumb to me too.:confused: Super bland looking knife.
Ironically, some of my favorite designs are integral lock titanium knives, but this just looks thrown together like they went in to the "board room" and went down a generic punch list of what they needed to include in a knife to charge 450+.

Don't get me wrong, I love Spyderco. Been carrying an Endura and ladybug everyday. PM2s, Manix 2s, Militaries, the Salt line, the freakin Delica...all awesome! Stuff like this and the Nirvana just make me shake my head though. I'm sure they are quality manufactured pieces, but IMO other companies have this kind of niche covered already. Spyderco is better at the classics they're known for and the truly originals they come up with.
 
I would pay around what the Nirvana was going for, but only if this thing is extremely well-made. I mean, you can get a Koenig Arius for $460, so $520 is asking A LOT. Thing is... I really like this design and I can just picture a FFG mod from REK on this bad boy... sweet! I guess I will wait and see it the price settles down.
 
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The Spyderco Smock is also in s90v, for under 200 it's the actual knife they intend to sell in quantity. (Maybe they made a lot of them?). In any case this is marketing 101, fix a high price point to increase perceived value of something else on their line up.

Personally, I understand blowing $ for exotic steels from companies with a solid rep for good designs and heat treats... It's still ugly how far the inflation on the high end is getting.
I won't play in that area, the bubble pricing is purely to take advantage of the few thousand across the country who should be in 'knife collectors anonymous' instead of these forums :P
 
VernonRemington said:
Just because some guy made it by hand doesn’t always make it better than a high end production knife. I’ve handled enough customs to make the decision that they’re not worth the money to me.
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Are many (most?) customs better than production knives? No, definitely not.

Are Peter's better? Absolutely - he's a true craftsman.
 
dirc said:
The Spyderco Smock is also in s90v, for under 200 it's the actual knife they intend to sell in quantity. (Maybe they made a lot of them?). In any case this is marketing 101, fix a high price point to increase perceived value of something else on their line up.
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I don't think it's the S90V that's driving the price up - Spyderco regularly uses S110V on relatively inexpensive knives. Rather, I'd imagine it's the integral construction.

The cheapest titanium integrals start at around $300 (WE Knives, Lionsteel) and go up quickly from there. Both of those have high-end steel, but cut corners elsewhere, like the externally mounted lockbar insert.

I think the Paysan (and the Nirvana) are overpriced, but by no more than $100. Much of that can probably be accounted for by whatever cut Peter gets per knife sold. And, frankly, if you want an integral that's not a flipper, what other options do you have?
 
Meh. I'll buy 4 Stretches instead and never need to buy a Spyderco again if this is the route they are going.
 
I think this is just a clever ploy to make the mid priced Spydercos seem reasonably priced.

I love that company but I just don’t want to tie up hundreds of dollars in a single knife. They need to get back to their user roots. Start cranking out $35 Delica FRN’s in China, make it hard to not recommend a Spyderco to newcomers.

But if they want to charge $1k for some fancy knife and people will buy it, good for them.
 
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