Spyderco PM2 woes

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ExtraTang

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Hey all,

I need some advice. Just got my spyderco PM2 from that big online store (shipped and sold it too), so I think it's legit. However, the clip screws are so tight! I almost wore out the screws! Any advice on how to get them out? I'm using a cheap torx so that may be the problem. Could this mean that the knife is potentially counterfeit? Some of the body screws also look marginally stripped. I don't know. Any advice?
 
Do NOT attempt loosening any of the screws with cheapo Torx drivers!!
Leave the clip where it is till you get a good set!! You'll strip every screw you touch! Ask me how I know that. Ugh.
Do a search for Wiha Torx drivers. They are excellent and priced very fairly!!
Fake???? Got to post some pics.
Good luck
Joe
 
ExtraTang- I would not be surprised if Spyderco stopped Loctiting the pocket clips and would tell the customer to Loctite them when the clip is in their preferred position. Just a hunch.
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@paloneJ thanks for the advice! Just ordered a wiha t6! @lycosa yes spyderco must stop their pocket clip loctiting Policy! I'm. Lefty!
 
ExtraTang said:
@paloneJ thanks for the advice! Just ordered a wiha t6! @lycosa yes spyderco must stop their pocket clip loctiting Policy! I'm. Lefty!
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Yeah but if they did that then a different group of users would complain that they lost their knife after a year of not tightening screws.
 
Based on what I read on this forum, Spiderco is supposed to be a quality knife maker, I don't like the looks of them so I'll never know. I also know that any quality product doesn't need loctite to keep it's products parts together and if it does then the machined threading isn't engineered properly. A knife has aprox. 4 parts, excluding grips and screws, how these few parts command the high prices they do escapes me.

As a collector of many things including guns, watches etc.etc. I don't find value in any knife over $125 if that. And any knife co. that doesn't supply quality screws, knowing the purchaser will disassemble their product shouldn't be described as a quality knife maker.
 
PURPLEDC said:
Yeah but if they did that then a different group of users would complain that they lost their knife after a year of not tightening screws.
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I doubt it, if they would have engineered the knife properly they wouldn't need loctite, they need to engineer the knives they mfg. with the correct screws that would allow people to adjust for their needs.
 
cash71 said:
Based on what I read on this forum, Spiderco is supposed to be a quality knife maker, I don't like the looks of them so I'll never know. I also know that any quality product doesn't need loctite to keep it's products parts together and if it does then the machined threading isn't engineered properly. A knife has aprox. 4 parts, excluding grips and screws, how these few parts command the high prices they do escapes me.

As a collector of many things including guns, watches etc.etc. I don't find value in any knife over $125 if that. And any knife co. that doesn't supply quality screws, knowing the purchaser will disassemble their product shouldn't be described as a quality knife maker.
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Really? You must be new to guns and knives...as many quality companies use threadlocker.
 
PURPLEDC said:
Yeah but if they did that then a different group of users would complain that they lost their knife after a year of not tightening screws.
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And that is Spyderco's fault? Let them pull PMCS* measures on their tools.


*Preventive Maintenance, Checks & Services for you non military folks.
 
cash71 said:
Based on what I read on this forum, Spiderco is supposed to be a quality knife maker, I don't like the looks of them so I'll never know. I also know that any quality product doesn't need loctite to keep it's products parts together and if it does then the machined threading isn't engineered properly. A knife has aprox. 4 parts, excluding grips and screws, how these few parts command the high prices they do escapes me.

As a collector of many things including guns, watches etc.etc. I don't find value in any knife over $125 if that. And any knife co. that doesn't supply quality screws, knowing the purchaser will disassemble their product shouldn't be described as a quality knife maker.
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I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make? Other than you don't like to buy knives over $125, and don't understand the reason. There's a lot more than four parts in a knife, and a lot more that goes into a proper design as well as materials used.

Spyderco using Loctite on their screws has nothing to do with the quality of parts used. The company is beyond amazing and has one of the best customer service in the industry. If you don't dig their designs that's fine but to call them out on not using quality parts is not true.



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cash71 said:
I doubt it, if they would have engineered the knife properly they wouldn't need loctite, they need to engineer the knives they mfg. with the correct screws that would allow people to adjust for their needs.
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Pretty broad generalizations over a brand and knife you have no experience with.
 
Screwdriver said:
Really? You must be new to guns and knives...as many quality companies use threadlocker.
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I've been collecting guns for close to 5 decades, new to knives but not manufacturing other products. A few parts on some guns are loctited in areas that receive high impact/ shock, please explain the areas on knives that parallel this? A properly engineered pocket clasp needs a flexible metal in the clip and properly engineered screws.
 
cash71 said:
I've been collecting guns for close to 5 decades, new to knives but not manufacturing other products. A few parts on some guns are loctited in areas that receive high impact/ shock, please explain the areas on knives that parallel this? A properly engineered pocket clasp needs a flexible metal in the clip and properly engineered screws.
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Okay you're going to have to let go of the idea that guns and knives are in the same manufacturing relm because they're totally not. Normally the pivot and handle screws will have Loctite, well as clip screws. This goes for most manufacturers, it's pretty uncommon to not see it. It's also pretty standard advice when the pivot screw has a tendency of adjusting.

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Schwifty said:
Pretty broad generalizations over a brand and knife you have no experience with.
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I don't need to know anything about a product that needs loctite to keep it's parts together. If that's the case then it simply isn't engineered properly, that's not a complicated issue to understand, for some.
 
cash71 said:
A properly engineered pocket clasp needs a flexible metal in the clip and properly engineered screws.
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Little bit of know what for ya, Spyderco was the first to install said "pocket clasp" to a pocket knife... And a dozen other firsts in the knife world.

I agree a proper engineered tool shouldn't need locktite on all the things. But its not an issue with proper tools and a little heat.
 
Yo Mama said:
I'm not sure I understand the point you're trying to make? Other than you don't like to buy knives over $125, and don't understand the reason. There's a lot more than four parts in a knife, and a lot more that goes into a proper design as well as materials used.

Spyderco using Loctite on their screws has nothing to do with the quality of parts used. The company is beyond amazing and has one of the best customer service in the industry. If you don't dig their designs that's fine but to call them out on not using quality parts is not true.



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A company that uses loctite to hold their parts together has everything to do with the quality of their products, especially when they know the end user will be taking apart the product. If the company is amazing, as you say, then they need to be a bit more amazing and design a product that allows users to do what they must.
 
I haven't found a clip on a spyderco yet that had loctite on it from the factory...
 
cash71 said:
I don't need to know anything about a product that needs loctite to keep it's parts together. If that's the case then it simply isn't engineered properly, that's not a complicated issue to understand, for some.
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Sorry, you are mistaken. Many highly engineered mechanical designs and sub-assemblies incorporate thread-locker. This is called for in the specification, especially when vibration is an issue.
 
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