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Spyderco Puukko is out
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It's not a problem with the number of Edge pro, Wicked Edge, and Work Sharp devices being used now. Besides, S30V is not that hard to sharpen, I've done it on the sharpmaker plenty of times. A Scandi grind will eventually end up with a micro bevel anyway, that is the simplest way to deal with it.
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Yes indeed, a Finnish design manufactured in Taiwan made of US materials, oh the humanity.
It's clear you don't understand basic business practices involved in manufacturing, but for the record Fallkniven uses VG-10, Japanese steel....oh noes.
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That's kind of a dumb thing to say. Have you ever even owned a Spyderco?
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I agree that puukkos often end up with microbevels. As a matter of fact I've corresponded with a couple of Finnish makers who recommended doing so for added durability. You will occassionally have to resharpen the main bevel though, otherwise your microbevel stops being a microbevel. Sharpening this main bevel isn't too bad when you're dealing with carbon steel, but S30V will be a PITA. Keep in mind that woodworking is a primary function of puukkos, so a high polish is a must. I don't relish the thought of maintaining this level of polish on an S30V blade.
I don't have a problem with S30V. I have a Military, Sebenza, and 110 with S30V blades. They are all good, make that great, knives and I don't have any problems keeping them sharp. The blades have conventional bevels though, not wide zero grind bevels.
Of course the above is merely one man's opinion. I just think that for a zero grind blade, a different steel would have been a better choice. Like the O-1 that Spyderco chose for the Bushcraft.
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The Spyderco Puukko was designed to accomplish several things in one project. First, as a collaboration with Pekka Tuominen, it is a custom collaboration. Collaborations take a custom maker's design and both honor it and make it available to a broader audience. It is also part of Spyderco's ethnic series, a project that takes traditional ethnic knives and adapts them to modern production methods. Finally, it showcases the work or our maker in Taiwan and, in the process, incorporates CPM S30V steel into a production Puukko format.
If you haven't handled knives made by Spyderco's Taiwanese maker, you really have no basis for commenting on the fit and finish of these knives. They are excellent. I have actually visited Taiwan, worked with various factories there, and have seen the spectrum of quality they offer. While some specialize in low-quality, commodity knives, other makers produce outstanding products that are every bit as good as most US-made knives.
If you're prejudiced and just don't like things made by the Taiwanese or Chinese, that's your choice. It doesn't change the reality of the quality of our products.
Similarly, you know that Spyderco knives will have a hole in the blade as a symbol of our trademark. If you know the difference between a knife and a crowbar, that will probably never be an issue in normal use. If your arbitrarily prejudiced against that, again, that's your choice.
Take the time to handle a Spyderco Puukko, appreciate its fit and finish, and consider its design characteristics in the context of your needs. If you then decide you don't like it, that's perfectly fair. If you simply want to rant about something you've never actually seen or handled and don't really understand, I'll value your opinion accordingly.
Stay safe,
Mike
If you haven't handled knives made by Spyderco's Taiwanese maker, you really have no basis for commenting on the fit and finish of these knives. They are excellent. I have actually visited Taiwan, worked with various factories there, and have seen the spectrum of quality they offer. While some specialize in low-quality, commodity knives, other makers produce outstanding products that are every bit as good as most US-made knives.
If you're prejudiced and just don't like things made by the Taiwanese or Chinese, that's your choice. It doesn't change the reality of the quality of our products.
Similarly, you know that Spyderco knives will have a hole in the blade as a symbol of our trademark. If you know the difference between a knife and a crowbar, that will probably never be an issue in normal use. If your arbitrarily prejudiced against that, again, that's your choice.
Take the time to handle a Spyderco Puukko, appreciate its fit and finish, and consider its design characteristics in the context of your needs. If you then decide you don't like it, that's perfectly fair. If you simply want to rant about something you've never actually seen or handled and don't really understand, I'll value your opinion accordingly.
Stay safe,
Mike
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isn't the grind a bit too high to be maintained flat on the main bevel ? a scandi is zero ground but not every zero ground knife is a scandi. i'm not an expert but my few puukkos have shorter bevels. and the edges are pretty delicate and specialised ... imho if you want to use it for edc this one needs a microbevel.
anyway after trying to sharpen a solid VG10 yanagiba (very wide bevel chisel ground japanese kitchen knife) i'm pretty sure i don't want to sharpen this one flat on the grind.
anyway after trying to sharpen a solid VG10 yanagiba (very wide bevel chisel ground japanese kitchen knife) i'm pretty sure i don't want to sharpen this one flat on the grind.
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I would own this knife if it wasn't s30. With all these new steels from cts and bohler s30 just doesn't cut it for me. That said I have handled a few Taiwan made Spydercos and their fit and finish was superb to say the least.I might even say the finest of the three main hubs
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Actually Finnish puukkos tend to have wide bevels. A good rule of thumb is that the main bevel goes up 2/3 the width of the blade.
Norwegian and Swedish knives on the other hand tend to have narrower bevels. They are not puukkos, although they do share a common heritage.
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I respect your taking the time to respond to the remarks in this thread, but I resent your insinuation that those making critical remarks are simply ignorant and don't know what they are talking about. So Taiwanese makers are equal to U.S. makers? Hmm... is that why you chose to manufacture the knives in Taiwan, or is it because they can do it cheaper? You tell me which it is. I'll bet it's because they do it cheaper. You think I prefer U.S. knives because I am some kind of ethno-centric fool who is "prejudiced" (your words) against Taiwanese products? My computer I am using to type this message and everything inside said computer is made in Taiwan, and I'm proud to use it. Furthermore, I've been to Taiwan for vacation and love the people and the island. Maybe you shouldn't throw accusations of prejudice around so easily.
So those of us who criticize the hole don't know "the difference between a knife and a crowbar" (your words)? Why don't you explain the difference to me, professor, since I obviously don't know anything. And while you're at it, tell me what exactly that hole does besides illustrate your trademark? Absolutely nothing, correct?
Perhaps it is you who needs to rethink this knife. Some of us offered our honest criticism and have been using, collecting, and appreciating knives for decades. I have to admit that I take issue with the tone of your comments. I--and all the other commenters here--did not come here to "rant" (your words), believe it or not. I don't like to hear myself talk that much. I came here as a member of this community to chime in honestly, and I did put thought into my comments. Thanks.
EDIT: Also, not only am I not a Taiwan-hater, I'm not a Spyderco-hater, either. The only knife that goes with me everywhere (except on planes) is my LadyBug, and I've got several hundred dollars worth of bench stones and rods from Spyderco, all top-notch. My complaint is about the value of this knife compared to it's questionable features.
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You mean like this or this?
Do you even have an opinion, or are you just here to stir the pot? Almost everything you post is snarky and insulting. You don't like the knife? Fine. You think it could be done better? Offer constructive criticism. But what you're saying, and the way you're saying it is antagonistic and could certainly be considered pure trolling from a certain point of view.