Spyderco Puukko is out

Well it is a Spyderco Puukko, of course it has a hole in the blade.

That's as much a mark of Spyderco as their name.

Simple really.


Leadfoot
 
Planterz said:
You mean like this or this?

Do you even have an opinion, or are you just here to stir the pot? Almost everything you post is snarky and insulting. You don't like the knife? Fine. You think it could be done better? Offer constructive criticism. But what you're saying, and the way you're saying it is antagonistic and could certainly be considered pure trolling from a certain point of view.
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Constructive criticism: change steel from S30V to O1, remove hole, change handle design, manufacture in U.S., reduce price. If you read my original post, you might have seen that. Yes, I'm aware they aren't going to change those things, but it's worth pointing out. I'm passing on this knife.
 
Personally, I like knives from Finland. I've got a few and enjoy using them. I like the looks of this one a lot.

I also like the cheerful, cooperative tone of conversations on the Spyderco forum, so I'm glad we had Mike and Pekka here to respond so well. :)
 
Leadfoot2 said:
Well it is a Spyderco Puukko, of course it has a hole in the blade.

That's as much a mark of Spyderco as their name.

Simple really.
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In addition, I would assert that any possible reasonable weakness caused by this hole has been tested by Spyderco and found not to be an issue. Seriously. They're not going to randomly drill a hole in the blade just for TM purposes without making sure that the blade will hold up to anything that could reasonably be thrown at it. If you think this hole will be the downfall of the knife, then you've been watching "Star Wars" too much.
 
It is funny that when Spyderco made a Scandi from O-1 there were loads of people saying how they would have preferred VG10 or S30V, or even S90V, and when they make one in S30V there is someone saying that it should be O-1.

There will always be folk who want something other than the knife that has been produced. They will take issue with the price being too high, the quality being too high, the quality being too low, the steel being too hard, the steel being too soft, the steel being too wear resistant, or not enough, the handle being too smooth, too rough, too large, too small, made of wood, made of synthetic, and the source of manufacture being other than the Western Hemisphere. This is particularly true when a knife is just released and everyone is making up thier minds based on photos and spec sheets rather than hands-on experience or field use.

Personally I am looking forward to reading the first reports from folk that have had a chance to use the knife. When I handled one at Blade it felt like it would be a wood carving machine!
 
There's a very easy solution to the problem of not liking a certain product from a manufacturer. Don't buy it. That's the beauty of the world today. You can get want you want. There's plenty of custom makers that will craft a knife out of which ever material, with or with out a hole, using any material handle your heart desires.
 
C_Claycomb said:
It is funny that when Spyderco made a Scandi from O-1 there were loads of people saying how they would have preferred VG10 or S30V, or even S90V, and when they make one in S30V there is someone saying that it should be O-1.
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Nah the bushcrafter should be done in 3V :D
VG10, S30V and S90V aren't tough enough ;)

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/900848-Spyderco-Bushcraft-thoughts?
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...s-for-multi-day-trips-Field-sharpening-CPM3V?
 
Magnaminous_G said:
I have to admit that I take issue with the tone of your comments.
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The feeling is mutual. Here's your original post:

Magnaminous_G said:
Hmm. Spyderco wants $200+ for a factory knife made in Taiwan, made out of a lunatic choice for steel (S30V... really?), with a weird handle for a Puukko and that awful, pointless "spider hole" that does nothing but weaken the geometry on a fixed-blade knife?
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I tried to offer some insight into Spyderco's intent behind the manufacture of this knife. Based on that information, I hope readers of this forum can appreciate it for what it is and choose their purchases accordingly. Magnanimous, I don't know you and can only base my responses on the tone and spirit of your posts, which are confrontational. If you want respectful answers, ask respectful questions.

Stay safe,

Mike
 
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Planterz said:
Seriously. They're not going to randomly drill a hole in the blade just for TM purposes
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Magnaminous_G said:
Actually, that is exactly what they do.
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Clever. Cut off half the statement to try to make your point seem valid.

Planterz said:
They're not going to randomly drill a hole in the blade just for TM purposes without making sure that the blade will hold up to anything that could reasonably be thrown at it.
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And that is exactly what they do.
 
Michael Janich said:
The feeling is mutual. Here's your original post:



I tried to offer some insight into Spyderco's intent behind the manufacture of this knife. Based on that information, I hope readers of this forum can appreciate it for what it is and choose their purchases accordingly. Magnanimous, I don't know you and can only base my responses on the tone and spirit of your posts, which are confrontational. If you want respectful answers, ask respectful questions.

Stay safe,

Mike
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Well, you have a vested interest in this knife's success. I don't, but I'll pass. You stay safe, too.
 
I have handled the knife but not used it. All I can say is I don't think that hole is going to affect the strength of a roughly 3.25 inch blade if it is actually being used for cutting tasks suited to its size.
 
Here is another thought. There must be tens of thousands of Spyderco folders out there with huge holes, and some thousands of various fixed blades (I know that there are more than 2000 Bushcraft knives out there somewhere), all with smaller holes. While I know that it is preferred to handle any issues with knife strength or build quality off-forum, between maker and purchaser, I would have thought that if putting small holes in the blades, much less big ones, was causing the problems that some people suggest that it will, it would be pretty easy to find examples; that it would be common knowledge among users.

The forums do not seem to be flooded with people howling that their Bushcraft knives broke at the TM hole, or Moran users claiming they caught septicaemia or tularaemia from the accumulation of gunk in the hole.
Not saying that a hole doesn't weaken a blade, or that it doesn't give somewhere for crud to collect, just wondering whether it is is as big a problem as the critics suggest. :)
 
Not to mention that ALL folders have a hole in the blade: the pivot hole.

And MOST decent knives have holes in the tang, often only a few cm away from where the Spydie hole is in this example, for handle screws/pins, unless they have some sort of injection molded handles....

Anyone who thinks these holes weaken the integrity of the blade need to take a long hard look at reality.
 
From reading these forums, and especially this thread, I'd say most of the knife people on the internet have never experienced reality.
 
yablanowitz said:
From reading these forums, and especially this thread, I'd say most of the knife people on the internet have never experienced reality.
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How true. Quite a few statisticians though. Can recite all sorts of interwebz facts left and right.
 
Yeah. And even guys who can't spell their own name right. Kinda makes you wonder.
 
Samael said:
That's kind of a dumb thing to say. Have you ever even owned a Spyderco?
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Yes, I have, want to compare? You go first, and why was I dumb? Because I support keeping jobs in America? PS, the hole in the blade has NO practical value. Your up.
 
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