Spyderco vs Benchmade

Cvrobinson said:
You have not owned one
Since 2013
Your "first hand knowledge"
Pally
Is old news
Necro news
And nothing else
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Haha that's all you've got? Pathetic.

I sold those knives because the QC sucked (just like your attitude). And do you think that they've improved over the years? Pffffft. Just read reviews anywhere and posts in this thread.

Its all factual from my experience , little guy. Are you gonna keep pouting? Hahaha.

How about this : instead getting all pissy pants about the truth , just sit quietly and let the adults talk :D
 
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Wolverine666 said:
Yeah , get both. So you can send in the BM for it's inevitable QC issues and you can EDC the Spyderco.
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Wolverine666 said:
Just kidding around , little guy.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: ...that better? Hahaha.
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Wolverine666 said:
Blade play you mean :D
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Wolverine666 said:
Awww , did I hurt your feelings because I stated a known problem with many BM's? Dry your eyes and get over it. Hahaha.

A pic of blade play? How's that possible?

I've had numerous BM's (707 Sequel , 710's , HK 14220 , HK 14255 tanto to name but a few). And aside from maybe 3 or 4 , all the Axis locks had blade play. And not just after time but right from the get go.

So I sold them years ago. And I haven't bought one of those things since late 2013.

That's my "first hand knowledge" , pally.
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Wolverine666 said:
Haha that's all you've got? Pathetic.

I sold those knives because the QC sucked (just like your attitude). And do you think that they've improved over the years? Pffffft. Just read reviews anywhere and posts in this thread.

Its all factual from my experience , little guy. Are you gonna keep pouting? Hahaha.

How about this : instead getting all pissy pants about the truth , just sit quietly and let the adults talk :D
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So far I can see you have contributed so much to this post I can't wait for "your next" post
 
Cvrobinson said:
My opinion is that I agree with 99% of the posts here
That both are great knives

And to ignore 5 yr old opinions
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That's adorable. Hahaha.

But my opinion is current and up to date.

I like to correct overly sensitive newbs that haven't even been here for 3 months. Yup , I mean you , sunshine :)
 
Of the first eight or ten Benchmade folders I got, two were sent into the factory for significant lock rock. Twice for each one . I had to pay for three of the four return mailings. One is now corrected , the other is almost corrected, but I m not going to send in back in. I just keep cycling it, hoping it will “seat”. Of the last five I ve bought, the most expensive one had severe lock rock, but I wasn t allowed to return it due the some handling marks on the titanium handles which developed with minimal handling. A return to the factory resulted in a correction, but I don t have confidence in the knife.
Right now I have no plans to buy another Benchmade. That could change. The prices may come down.;)
 
"Was it supposed to be a recurve?" This video killed me.



But all joking aside, I think Benchmade has to clamp down hard on the QC, unless it wants to go fall towards the rich man's CRKT - amazing designs, inconsistent quality, mass name recognition sales. The average consumer doesn't care about blade centering, symmetrical grinds and other nitty-gritty details, but the average consumers also aren't the ones shoving $500 for gold class Benchmades, which has a more significant Butterfly Tax. Let's face it, carbon fiber is more expensive than micarta, but at most $35/pair more. Benchmade, as a manufacturer, gets them much cheaper then we small makers do.

And it's super doable. The excuse that Benchmade has so many QC issues from sheer production volume doesn't hold water when you consider all of its competitors, especially OEM makers. I'm sure Reate/WE makes a comparable amount, but try finding the same amount of complaints for WE, Reate, Boo's Blades, Todd Beggs Steelcrafts, etc. If Chinese makers "don't count because of IP theft/labor/other justifications", then OEM makers like Technocut, Maserin, Moki, Seki-Cut, etc? I'm sure all of the OEM makers above have QC issues, but none at the scale of which Benchmade does - which you can confirm with a ten second Google/forum/Youtube search.

And yeah, Spyderco does have QC issues too, like for the Lum Tanto here, or the Gayle Bradley Advocate + Loctite policy fiasco from last year - but Sal has proven to take care of things on the spot every-time.

The best policy for now is just to buy everything in person, or request pictures from dealers before you buy - for all knives. Anything above $150 at this point should be pretty perfect, so as knife knuts we should expect and enforce it.

Edit: Phone edited "Benchmade" to "Benchmark"
 
RampageRhino69 said:
"Was it supposed to be a recurve?" This video killed me.



But all joking aside, I think Benchmade has to clamp down hard on the QC, unless it wants to go fall towards the rich man's CRKT - amazing designs, inconsistent quality, mass name recognition sales. The average consumer doesn't care about blade centering, symmetrical grinds and other nitty-gritty details, but the average consumers also aren't the ones shoving $500 for gold class Benchmades, which has a more significant Butterfly Tax. Let's face it, carbon fiber is more expensive than micarta, but at most $35/pair more. Benchmade, as a manufacturer, gets them much cheaper then we small makers do.

And it's super doable. The excuse that Benchmade has so many QC issues from sheer production volume doesn't hold water when you consider all of its competitors, especially OEM makers. I'm sure Reate/WE makes a comparable amount, but try finding the same amount of complaints for WE, Reate, Boo's Blades, Todd Beggs Steelcrafts, etc. If Chinese makers "don't count because of IP theft/labor/other justifications", then OEM makers like Technocut, Maserin, Moki, Seki-Cut, etc? I'm sure all of the OEM makers above have QC issues, but none at the scale of which Benchmade does - which you can confirm with a ten second Google/forum/Youtube search.

And yeah, Spyderco does have QC issues too, like for the Lum Tanto here, or the Gayle Bradley Advocate + Loctite policy fiasco from last year - but Sal has proven to take care of things on the spot every-time.

The best policy for now is just to buy everything in person, or request pictures from dealers before you buy - for all knives. Anything above $150 at this point should be pretty perfect, so as knife knuts we should expect and enforce it.

Edit: Phone edited "Benchmade" to "Benchmark"
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That's a great vid. :thumbsup:
 
Hmmm... let me think about it:

Spydies2013.jpg~original
 
Spyderco and Benchmade are two of my favorite manufacturers, but lately I have found myself buying more Kizers, GECs, Lionsteel and other brands.

I wonder if - subconsciously - it's because those "other" brands don't have so many fanboys criticizing everybody else, crapping all over the Internet and preaching the gospel of "Me, Myself and I"?
 
miltmaldo said:
I'll give you something to think about lol. I have lots of Spyderco but very few can match this Grip View attachment 865764 View attachment 865765
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Hey that looks familiar! ;), i'll agree with you on that, the DLT Grip had the best fit and finish of any Benchmade i've received (outside of the Anthem).

I agree with others that say "buy the knife", and I have done that and it ended up with me having 100+ Spyderco's and maybe 15 Benchmade's as of now. To me that comes down to ergos, design, materials, value, and fit and finish, generally Spyderco knives win in all these categories for me. The past couple BM i've had did have good fit and finish so I hope they're turning it around because for a while it was a gamble buying them online.
 
Cvrobinson said:
You have not owned one
Since 2013
Your "first hand knowledge"
Pally
Is old news
Necro news
And nothing else
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Stop crying. Benchmade have lots of issues and still do. It's truth and annoying and they don't care.

Here's the most recent one. But not the only one. He also had one built by the custom decision and had issues. It's lol bad the quality these guys have.
 
Mo2 said:
Stop crying. Benchmade have lots of issues and still do. It's truth and annoying and they don't care.

Here's the most recent one. But not the only one. He also had one built by the custom decision and had issues. It's lol bad the quality these guys have.
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Why is it, that those who have the least to offer to a conversation start out with insults?
 
Cvrobinson said:
Why is it, that those who have the least to offer to a conversation start out with insults?
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Mo2 said nothing insulting if his argument was backed up with evidence. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of results that back up his statement on the forum alone.

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/benchmade-quality.1477563/

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/dear-benchmade.1489709/

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/my-experience-of-benchmade-quality-control.816756/

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/benchmade-quality-control.675919/

Can we just agree to stop treating Benchmade with kid gloves and just call it as it is? As of this moment, Benchmade loses immensely to Spyderco in the value equation.
 
As I've already stated several times, I am a big fan of Spyderco and Benchmade, and I've never had problems with either brand, in spite of the fact that I've owned and used numerous models of each.

That said, those Benchmade links prove nothing more than these Spyderco links prove - again, that is to say - nothing.

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bhq-lum-tanto-sell-off.1558546/#post-17895645

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/manix-2-question.1513769/

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...has-up-down-blade-play.1492216/#post-17151980

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/manix-2-s30v-or-s110v.1423236/page-2#post-16416221

I have yet to hear anyone speak as to how some of us have owned and used 6 or 8 or 10 knives or more from both brands, and never had any issues - QC or otherwise - if one of these two brands is obviously so crappy and inferior to the other one?

Here's another link to a thread that proves nothing. According to some of the "logic" posted previously in this thread, the following link should "prove" or at least "lend credence" to Benchmade being a better made knife than... wait for it - Zero Tolerance. Oh, but wait. The anti-Benchmade fanboys probably have it out for ZT/Kai, too!

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/my-local-knife-dealer-is-dumping-zt-for-benchmade.1556104/

This is like one of those times that you're a fan of a sports team, but the way your "fellow fans" are acting, it's a little embarrassing. You wish your team's fans had more class. Sometimes, it gets so bad, you wish they would go root for some OTHER team!
 
Mo2 said:
Stop crying. Benchmade have lots of issues and still do. It's truth and annoying and they don't care.

Here's the most recent one. But not the only one. He also had one built by the custom decision and had issues. It's lol bad the quality these guys have.
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Cvrobinson said:
Why is it, that those who have the least to offer to a conversation start out with insults?
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Wolverine666 said:
Hmm , something tells me that you bring it on yourself.
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Benchmade sucks sometimes. Spyderco suck sometimes. Both are great most of the time. Go duke it out behind the 7-Eleven :D
 
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