"Squatchers"

I see a real animal in the restored film, it doesn't look like anything in a fake fur suit to me, nor does it move like a man would wearing all that padding.
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Is this your opinion? or the opinion of others, which you accept as credible? What were your thoughts the first time you saw the footage?

People see bigfoot all the time, this guy gets a film and it can't be real? I don't see that logic.
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People (much more than 1000's) have reported seeing(filming) things just as incredible as BF(angels, demons, ghosts, aliens, psychic powers, government conspiracies/cover-ups, etc...) If we didn't need any more proof than personal accounts and one controversial film, we wouldn't be having this conversation and Bigfoot advocates wouldn't be looked upon as less-than-believable.

Rick
 
If it was as credible as what Squatchers want us to believe, then why haven't we spent the time and money to fly one military surveillance helicopter over a recent sighting area to catalogue every warm-bodied animal in that vacinity. We can see through walls from 2 miles away.... an 8ft 600-1300lb animal shouldn't be all that difficult. I'm sure with a chopper hovering at 2-3000 feet, even the most cunning animal would be oblivious to intent.
 
The problem with the Patteron film which I believe is the best footage out there is that Patterson at the time just wrote a book on Bigfoot . What better way to promote your book than some actual footage of Bigfoot

As much as I would live to believe in Bigfoot I will always struggle with the fact that with the advent of modern trail cameras And other ways of detection there has been no solid evidence.

I just watched a wonderful show on Wolverines which have been a very difficult animal to study and research because of there low numbers and the areas they in

I wish it was not so and even thou since the dawn of time there have been reports of Yeti, Sasquatch and Bigfoot I tend to believe they do not really exist
 
Rick Marchand said:
Is this your opinion? or the opinion of others, which you accept as credible? What were your thoughts the first time you saw the footage?
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It is my opinion and I've always thought it looked like a real animal. Seeing the film after it was stabilized made me even more so convinced.

Rick Marchand said:
If it was as credible as what Squatchers want us to believe, then why haven't we spent the time and money to fly one military surveillance helicopter over a recent sighting area to catalogue every warm-bodied animal in that vacinity. We can see through walls from 2 miles away.... an 8ft 600-1300lb animal shouldn't be all that difficult. I'm sure with a chopper hovering at 2-3000 feet, even the most cunning animal would be oblivious to intent.
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Because, the mindset is exactly like it is for the film, it can't be real it doesn't exist so why bother.
 
Joe.... that's it, bud. Me... you... your dog... a rucksack of brews, kibbles and jerky..... 2weeks in the bush! We'll find that sucker and talk him into giving us all a piggyback out!
 
JParanee said:
The problem with the Patteron film which I believe is the best footage out there is that Patterson at the time just wrote a book on Bigfoot . What better way to promote your book than some actual footage of Bigfoot
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And who better to actually film one than a man that is, interested and looking for them in an area where there's been many footprints and sightings? Patterson's interest in the subject, or his wanting to gain financially, does not mean he couldn't have got lucky and really rode upon the creature.
 
As far as 1000s of people who have seen one, the mind is very easily fooled. Theres a three part show on National Geographic called Brain Games. Its surprising how often I was fooled on that show.

If any of you have never taken this test before try it. I was one of the fifty percent who missed it.

[youtube]vJG698U2Mvo[/youtube]
 
Rick Marchand said:
But what of all the expert analysis and scientific data? This has to be enough to justify an investigation.
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The government hasn't got involved in this that we know of, no more than they've been involved in the UFO investigations. :rolleyes:
I seriously wouldn't trust the government to tell us anything about things of this nature, even if they know.
 
dipbait said:
As far as 1000s of people who have seen one, the mind is very easily fooled. Theres a three part show on National Geographic called Brain Games. Its surprising how often I was fooled on that show
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And the fooled mind also leaves tracks?
 
dipbait said:
Are their tracks left at most of the sightings ? I doubt it.
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There's been tracks found often at sightings.

And BTW this was from National Geographic as well.

[video=youtube;MKUwdHex1Zs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKUwdHex1Zs[/video]
 
Ive just read something about the Patterson film. {Now just because I have read it doesnt mean its true.} Accordingly this man by the name of Wallace was known a hoaxter who use to leave fake tracks in the area of the Patterson film. It was in the news and its where the phrase bigfoot got started. After Wallaces death his family came out with the truth and presented the fake feet. Coincidence?
 
dipbait said:
As far as 1000s of people who have seen one, the mind is very easily fooled. Theres a three part show on National Geographic called Brain Games. Its surprising how often I was fooled on that show.

If any of you have never taken this test before try it. I was one of the fifty percent who missed it.

[youtube]vJG698U2Mvo[/youtube]
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Funny.... I stopped counting as soon as the gorilla stepped into the frame.... I guessed 13 passes.... but got the gorilla, atleast.

Jill.... all I can say is we have had more than enough "evidence/opportunity" to track one down and we haven't. All this time and money has been spent on validating films, pictures, casts and personal accounts.... yet everytime we hit the woods, it's at night with a bunch of noisey yahoos. Still, there always seems to be some sort of contact made, whether its a distant call, a stone throw, or mysterious figure in the shadows. I would also like to see video of trained hunting dogs cowering at the scent of bigfoot. They hunt lions, grizzly and corral bulls with them for Pete's sake. Do you think a Squatch is a match for a 1500lb bull moose?
 
Hey Dipbait.... we've covered much of the info you're reposting. Wallace hoax, tracks at the site, etc....
 
How does anyone explain the complete lack of hard physical evidence? Sure we have indirect evidence in the form of tracks, sightings and images, but why do we not have a specimen? How can it be explained? How have we not, ever, had a body? Surely they have accidents and die, maybe a lost fight with a bear or an ambush by a mountain lion. I'm willing to believe that they're sneaky as all hell, evade our best hunters and trackers, and manage to avoid all of our game cams, and hide their own dead. But that they never have met an ill fate and left a carcass? They were never in the wrong place at the wrong time in front of the wrong hunter and got shot? Never?

Seriously, how can this be explained?
 
jill jackson said:
The government hasn't got involved in this that we know of, no more than they've been involved in the UFO investigations. :rolleyes:
I seriously wouldn't trust the government to tell us anything about things of this nature, even if they know.
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most people use the words"The Government" like it was one person, one entity in control.
it's not, if there was a bigfoot one of the hundreds of facilities strung out across the country and Canada would have vid of it.
not some shaky unwatchable Blair which project footage either.
it would be stabilized FLIR saved on large(huge)DVR systems. cameras like that are mounted all around government sites. zoom capabilities are amazing, 2,000 yards is nothing. if it was out there there would be high quality video of it.

as for it getting out. there's no doubt in my mind it would be out in days if not hours after it was shot. most of the people guarding these facilities are contractors. it would be out by now.
all the things "The Government" might send somebody to guantanamo for releasing footage of bigfoot isn't one of them.

plus all the helo flights the military makes for training missions all over the country, all those birds are using FLIR, if it was out there it would be on youtube in no time.
 
One might also assume that there would have been at least a cursory DNA database built by now if even a small number of the hairs recovered have proven to be unidentifiable primate hair. Can we imagine an animal with that much of it's body covered with hair not leaving a significant trail of hair at most sighting locations? What about skin cells in all of those hundreds of tracks?

I would think that such DNA evidence would be fairly substantial proof if the researchers/finders took the time to document the finding/recovery/chain of custody of such evidence. Surely not all of these professional "researchers" are unfamiliar with scientific methods of evidence gathering and documentation. As I and others have repeatedly said, I would like nothing more than for it to be proven real. But that would take real proof, real physical evidence that can not be faked.
 
The town near the Patterson location has become a tourist attraction that bolsters the local economy.

The same can be said for Roswell, N.M.

It's not surprising that locals want to attract attention with all of their Bigfoot stories.
 
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