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Interesting thread! I hope it keeps trickling along. I've never seen bigfoot, but I tend to believe that somewhere in all of the myths about Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Yeti/AbominableSnoman/SkunkApe/HonestPolitician there must be the grain of truth. One thing to keep in mind: One can argue about the lack of empirical evidence, Hairs, Blood, etc... But none of those will be terribly useful without a more complete Sasquatch specimen to get samples from for the initial classification. Strange hairs are found from time to time, but are, when not readily identified as a known species, inconclusive, absent a good specimen for comparison. Oh, and just because I can run down to the costume store and pick up an Abe Lincoln mask, and proceed to parade around in said mask and put a video on youtube, doesn't prove that Abe Lincoln wasn't real... Science can FAR more easily prove the existence of something than disprove it. I once read of a "Scientific Classification" of the "faire folk" from sometime around the 17th Century, iirc. There are Native American legends which, likewise, take the existence of a wild hairy giant hominid for granted... Hm... I guess time will tell. If they're out there, it seems likely that we'll find one, given enough time.
 
first i want to say thanks to erasmus, I said i wouldn't judge and i won't. i believe you saw something.
my nephew,(he's been a cop for almost 15 years) believes he and a few friends saw and had a couple of them throw rocks at them in New Mexico a few years ago.
I believe he saw something, my question was get any pics or shots at it? he didn't, if he had this would be a completely different thread.

as far as indian myths, more than a few groups believed in an under water panther. I don't think those exist either.

now we have a possible supernatural explanation, that makes as much sense as any other.

met a guy that swore he had sprites, little green guys that used to come into his room at night and talk to him. found out later after a few more questions that it only happened after he had used jimson weed seeds.
i'm not saying that the people that saw a bigfoot are on drugs, I'm just saying that people see weird stuff sometimes. also if you believe in bigfoot and you're out in the woods you may just see a bigfoot when actually you saw something else. kinda like that email that went around for awhile with all the words spelled wrong but you could still read it. your brain fills in the gaps, you see what you want to see. just like people that see ghosts or demons.
i will say if its out there i hope someone gets one, not a pic or vid, that won't do it. gotta be a body.
thanks for sharing the stories tho, taking a risk putting them on the net, thanks again.
 
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I have been following and enjoying this thread. Thanks to those who have related their beliefs and experiences. Perhaps we can bring the subject up again if/when some positive proof comes to light. Meanwhile, I also would be interested in any information on tracks being professionally analyized.
 
I am a big Fred Eichler fan and have been for a long time, as a hunting celebrity I really respect him and his wife and enjoy watching their show every week. If yall are not familiar with them look up some of their vids, great people. I will let this video speak for itself, I saw this a year or so ago and I really don't think Fred would be involved in a hoax. I'm not saying this is a bigfoot but it is a cool video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS4jbSe-AlM
 
I am a big Fred Eichler fan and have been for a long time, as a hunting celebrity I really respect him and his wife and enjoy watching their show every week. If yall are not familiar with them look up some of their vids, great people. I will let this video speak for itself, I saw this a year or so ago and I really don't think Fred would be involved in a hoax. I'm not saying this is a bigfoot but it is a cool video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS4jbSe-AlM

thats what i'm talking about, all these guys out there with cameras hunting for big bucks and the like. one of these guys is gonna have to get one eventually if it exists. nice videos too, finally someone that hunts with a recurve.
 
thats what i'm talking about, all these guys out there with cameras hunting for big bucks and the like. one of these guys is gonna have to get one eventually if it exists. nice videos too, finally someone that hunts with a recurve.

Fred is the real deal, so is his wife Michele, there are a few of us recurve shooters around even if I do shoot an ILF.

I don't believe in a to this time undiscovered North American great ape, but it does seem that something a bit freaky is going on. Like I keep saying, I would love to have my own experience, bigfoot, alien or ghost. Chris
 
Sic the dogs on him. Get some real hunters and some real hunting dogs and go get one. Its that simple. Go to the most heavily reported Yeti, Momo, Sasquath, Skunkape... area and get one. If there is one there the dogs will find it. There is only one reason why this hasnt been done.
 
Sic the dogs on him. Get some real hunters and some real hunting dogs and go get one. Its that simple. Go to the most heavily reported Yeti, Momo, Sasquath, Skunkape... area and get one. If there is one there the dogs will find it. There is only one reason why this hasnt been done.

Dogs won't go after it and that's the reason, they are terrified of it.
 
Dogs do go after boars, bears, lions and other large animals. Perhaps you dogs might be terrified, but are they bred and trained to hunt large, dangerous game?
 
A minor update on my original story:

This will be just a little more factual detail that I neglected to include in the original post.

I stared at his face, and couldn't make out any eyes. I did notice that his face was flattish, like a human's would be-- there was definately NO snout, such as a black bear would have to have. He had human shaped shoulders and I saw his human shaped arms down to the middle of his biceps. It was distinctly creepy how at the end of the staring match, he sank straight down smoothly and silently. I never smelled nor heard him make any sounds at all. He made good his rapid exit in complete silence. Visually, for what of its body I could see, he was just about a dead ringer for that creature in the Patterson film.



Now, here's a gob of supposition, my interpretation of what happened:

At the time, I was between labs, and so was hunting by myself. I have a habit of wearing full surplus camoflauge, and moving quietly and uobtrusively, so that as I wander, I can come up on game animals by surprise. I think this Hairy Man of the Forest was hanging out(hiding, really) in this thin, arid forest, and observed a camo'ed figure quietly walking around, and it piqued his interest.

Being an accomplished hider, he figured he could follow(?) or at least move around a little to get a better look at oblivious me. Well, he forgot himself and stuck up too far above the downed log, while stareing too long at me. I have a vague notion that if you stare at someone too long (or too hard?), that they will become somehow aware of this attention, and start looking around. I suppose this is the reason that I turned around "for no reason."

After he dropped down on his side of the log, he used it as visual cover to make good his escape.

Since he was my size or a couple of inches smaller, I imagine he was a juvenile, since other mass media witnesses claim the full sized ones are a few feet taller. I will guess that he was the equivalent of a teenager, who was just out messing around.

Can you imagine the wrath his angry family group would rain down on the perpetrator, if some hunter had been dumb enough to wing junior?! I'm telling you right now, the last thing you should do is make them seriously mad for light and transient reasons. I definately don't want any trouble from them, but neither will I meekly submit to having my labs torn apart by them. I don't think they like dogs.


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People are free to make up their own minds about stories they hear. I've got no proof or pics, only my say so.

Over drinks, I told my lawyer hunting buddy this story. His eyes got big and round, and he had a stunned look...
The biggest reason that people do not feel free to tell these sorts of wierd stories, is that nothing good ever seems to come of it.
 
Dogs do go after boars, bears, lions and other large animals. Perhaps you dogs might be terrified, but are they bred and trained to hunt large, dangerous game?

The only dogs I've heard of being used to just track, not hunt it down and bay it (which I don't think the dogs would do) are leashed bloodhounds.
But the dog hunting it down, is not a new idea it seems.

http://www.americanmonsters.com/site/2010/10/bigfoot-hunting-dogs-search-for-evidence/

"They get wind of this feces, which would either be from bear or Sasquatch, because it was filled with black ants, and the dogs had a fear response to it. This is a very unusual response because those same dogs would walk by bear feces with no response. This enthused one of the handlers, and she has agreed to train a dog to great ape hair and tissue with the presumption that Sasquatch falls close to the variation of gorillas, chimps and apes.”
 
There's a good book on this called "Hunt For The Skinwalker" by Colm Kelleher and George Knapp, 2005. Many of you will know the "skinwalker" as a Navajo witch, but this book deals with that and a whole range of paranormal events (including sasquatch sightings) at a remote ranch in Utah. The ranch area was a hotspot for a spectrum of events including skinwalkers, sasquatches, UFOs, balls of fire, disembodied voices, giant wolves, black holes or portals, etc. The area seemed to be the main tent for a paranormal circus. The local Utes have seen it all and take it as a fact of life, but don't like to talk about it.

There's a chapter on Bigfoot.

The authors set up a scientific expedition and camp there for several years, bringing in all kinds of scientific detection and recording equipment. Despite witnessing first hand a lot of bizarre phenomena, they came away with precious little hard recorded evidence. They used dogs but the dogs were usually scared and didn't want to go chasing after nothin.

They made one good point about peer-reviewed science: No mainstream scientist today who values his career will touch this stuff because it is taboo. Their reputations will be discredited, employment opportunities will disappear, grant money will dry up. In their case, they were funded by an independent source who wanted to see this stuff investigated.

You can Google the book title, there are all kinds of reviews, blogs and opinions on it. It's a fascinating read with some scary conclusions. Unfortunately, no pictures yet. A second book is hinted at.
 
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I am a big Fred Eichler fan and have been for a long time, as a hunting celebrity I really respect him and his wife and enjoy watching their show every week. If yall are not familiar with them look up some of their vids, great people. I will let this video speak for itself, I saw this a year or so ago and I really don't think Fred would be involved in a hoax. I'm not saying this is a bigfoot but it is a cool video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS4jbSe-AlM
Cool Video...Thanks for sharing !

A minor update on my original story:

This will be just a little more factual detail that I neglected to include in the original post.

I stared at his face, and couldn't make out any eyes. I did notice that his face was flattish, like a human's would be-- there was definately NO snout, such as a black bear would have to have. He had human shaped shoulders and I saw his human shaped arms down to the middle of his biceps. It was distinctly creepy how at the end of the staring match, he sank straight down smoothly and silently. I never smelled nor heard him make any sounds at all. He made good his rapid exit in complete silence. Visually, for what of its body I could see, he was just about a dead ringer for that creature in the Patterson film.



Now, here's a gob of supposition, my interpretation of what happened:

At the time, I was between labs, and so was hunting by myself. I have a habit of wearing full surplus camoflauge, and moving quietly and uobtrusively, so that as I wander, I can come up on game animals by surprise. I think this Hairy Man of the Forest was hanging out(hiding, really) in this thin, arid forest, and observed a camo'ed figure quietly walking around, and it piqued his interest.

Being an accomplished hider, he figured he could follow(?) or at least move around a little to get a better look at oblivious me. Well, he forgot himself and stuck up too far above the downed log, while stareing too long at me. I have a vague notion that if you stare at someone too long (or too hard?), that they will become somehow aware of this attention, and start looking around. I suppose this is the reason that I turned around "for no reason."

After he dropped down on his side of the log, he used it as visual cover to make good his escape.

Since he was my size or a couple of inches smaller, I imagine he was a juvenile, since other mass media witnesses claim the full sized ones are a few feet taller. I will guess that he was the equivalent of a teenager, who was just out messing around.

Can you imagine the wrath his angry family group would rain down on the perpetrator, if some hunter had been dumb enough to wing junior?! I'm telling you right now, the last thing you should do is make them seriously mad for light and transient reasons. I definately don't want any trouble from them, but neither will I meekly submit to having my labs torn apart by them. I don't think they like dogs.


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People are free to make up their own minds about stories they hear. I've got no proof or pics, only my say so.

Over drinks, I told my lawyer hunting buddy this story. His eyes got big and round, and he had a stunned look...
The biggest reason that people do not feel free to tell these sorts of wierd stories, is that nothing good ever seems to come of it.
Wow...great story 'Ol Bud !
 
Is there any place they dont live?
Apparently not.

I watched the video Jill linked to. Why do they allways film these hunts at night, yet everyone's bigfoot videos happen during the day?

I gotta stop clicking those links... the more I watch, the less I think it's possible.
 
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