stainless RATS

Hi guys.

Correct me if I'm wrong. But isn't referring to the steel as RAT's 1905 or RAT's potential 440c a bit of a misnomer. As far as I know, Rowen makes and heat treats the steel. Before Rowen it was Ontario. RAT designs the knives to their spec and establishes the quality they want at the price they want.

So it's Rowens 1095 or 440c you like so much.
 
It's not. It's two different hairs.

I think RAT designs great knives.

That said. I see some people drinking the RAT cool-aid a bit much lately. The steel isn't RATs special steel.

Jeff would be first to tell you that, I think.

If Rowen makes a 440c they like then great. But it's more than likely just Rowens standard 440c or 1095.
 
Jesus....what is it with this forum lately?

RAT, Rowen, hell we're all the same.
 
The last time I checked 440C and 1095 had been around a lot longer than RAT or Rowen. Anyone knows that. Rowen, however, does have some proprietary heat treat processes for particular steels.
 
I dunno Jeff...Seems some people don't understand the fact that a sub forum named after RAT might have some fans in it. If someone wants to be such a pita as to start an argument over 'who's steel' its made out of...I just don't understand why they read anything here. Point of the matter is, we're talking about the steel that's in RC knives. I don't give a shit if it was made by little green martians. As long as it's got Rat Cutlery stamped on the blade...It's going to get refered to as RAT's steel. It'd be like saying "that's not pepsi's liquid in that bottle, they didnt make it! It was bottled at a contractor's plant in NC!!!" Who cares?
 
You should care more about who makes it then what's stamped on it.

RAT does, I think that's why they switched over to Rowen.

I got a Toyota Corolla with a Porsche badge on it for 50k if you're interested.
 
Dizwolf said:
I dunno Jeff...Seems some people don't understand the fact that a sub forum named after RAT might have some fans in it. If someone wants to be such a pita as to start an argument over 'who's steel' its made out of...I just don't understand why they read anything here. Point of the matter is, we're talking about the steel that's in RC knives. I don't give a shit if it was made by little green martians. As long as it's got Rat Cutlery stamped on the blade...It's going to get refered to as RAT's steel. It'd be like saying "that's not pepsi's liquid in that bottle, they didnt make it! It was bottled at a contractor's plant in NC!!!" Who cares?
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So using this logic, you wouldn't care if RAT moved production over to China?
 
I think 440C would be a great option for those that need it. 1095 is a bit tedious to care for at sea, for instance.
 
retzius said:
You should care more about who makes it then what's stamped on it.

RAT does, I think that's why they switched over to Rowen.

I got a Toyota Corolla with a Porsche badge on it for 50k if you're interested.
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That kind of debate isn't in the spirit of what we do here. :) Jeff, Mike, and Shon form the trinity that is RAT Cutlery, and we all know that. ;)
 
Most of these arguments are just dumb IMO. FWIW I like the option of a SS knife with R.A.T knife making standards.
 
If Rowen can work the same magic with 440c, that they can with 1095, then it'll be a helluva knife.
Give the wonder steels a rest, people. Trust the man's judgement.

Good lord.

R.A.T said:
Jesus....what is it with this forum lately?
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Too many people who know too much for their own damned good, from what I can tell. :rolleyes:
 
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Well K-bar has the next generation knife in 440.
When will this be out and will I be able to get a rat 6 or 7 in this steel?
 
K-bar has its knives in 1095 and they have the next generation in 440A.
I was wondering if Rat was gonna make a rat 6 or 7 in 440.
 
i would not want an ESEE in 440A, a steel that is pretty crappy, i would hope for 440C which is much better. and honestly i really like the 1095 as is.
 
gundude73 said:
i would not want an ESEE in 440A, a steel that is pretty crappy, i would hope for 440C which is much better. and honestly i really like the 1095 as is.
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Me to that's why I buy them 1095. If they go with SS make it a good one.Or not at all IMHO
 
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