Strider "knives"? - no way!

... and that's his opinion, which he is allowed to voice, as far as I know.
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And that's other people's opinions, which they are allowed to voice, as far as I know. :D

Jim, freedom of speech includes the right to be contradicted. No one threatened him personally or told him to STFU. He meant to be confrontational -- that's OK, that's what forums are for -- but, did he mean to be ignored, or did he want to stir up a controversy?
 
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
IMHO. Art is priceless.
So... what about these Strider's?
http://128.241.187.216/oldknivesfoldergrid/Flak.html
http://128.241.187.216/exclusive5.html
Too expensive? I think not (for some it seems). In this world one has to pay to be in the "club".
Sadly, not all can be members. And that includes me :-(
So, just for now (no, make that for a very long time now) I'll probably go on waiting for that DAY when some fine man will come up to me and say, "Sir, is that a Strider you're wearing?".


Krizzard, out

"...Whoever kills with the sword must be killed by the sword... "
- The New Testament, Revelation 13:10
 
Jim everyone has thier own opinion, I may seem harsh, but all he has to do is NOT buy a Strider knife... No need to come on here, and throw well respected people in the knife industry under the bus.. If there is a specific problem, that can be addressed, this just seems to me to be sport bashing... He could have addressed this at the Strider table instead of coming on a public forum.. The quality of any givin knife is VERY subjective.. For some guy that only saw a knife at a show to declare them crap is just dumb...
I would listen MUCH more to someone that actually TOOK a Strider knife out and used it like it was intended to be used... Not trying to be a hard ass, but anytime somone tries to bash a mans livelyhood it should be addressed COMPLETELY...
"Hated it", just dont cut it....
 
I like the cord wrap for reasons mentioned...Also, if it gets messed up/cut/dirty whatever, it's easy as hell to throw a new wrap on it.

My favorite is the SA, I had two and thought they were both awesome!
I owned a PH and thought it was garbage!
Check out some different models and you might actually find something you like.

My striders have been replaced by busse, IMO a much superior knife for similar money :D
 
I used to think that I didn't need a Strider... had no use for a sharp prybar...

I've got a pretty extensive collection as it is and would never think of using a knife for anything other than cutting. Chopping is for Axes and prying is for crowbars. I used to justify my not having one the same way by saying that they were overpriced junk... But that was me in denial...

Then, Guro Jeff sold me a pair of Strider MTL's... I've gone further and gotten a pair of D-9's and my next target will be the BT's...

Taking the price arguement out of the picture (cause one man's fortune may be another's pocket change), I speculate that most naysayers have never owned one and that most owners have been satisfied with their Strider.
 
Knives are tools (at least to me they are) and with that in mind. I use a specific tool for a specific task. I don't own a Strider, but if I were headed to the Desert, I would buy a "sharpened prybar" for general tasks. Having been in the military in the mid-seventies, a Kabar was the knife of choice, but a poor tool for opening a case of C-rations. I know how sickening it is to use a Mayo (I still hear from Tom about this) to pry staples from a box. As Tom said, use a ****ing screwdriver. You would not use an exacto knife to dress a deer. I collect and use Talonite neck-knives. Trace Rinaldi makes a great Tactical Kitchen Knife and it is my favorite kitchen knife, my wife likes her Spyderco Satoku. YMMV, but don't trash a maker for your personal dislikes, just vote with your wallet.
 
I'm glad someone finaly had the courage to speak out against the emperors new clothes. Of course Strider knives are largely just sharpened prybars with no handles (how can you count a cord wrap as a real handle).
It is absolutely amazing to me the hype these knives have received.
I use the term "knives" loosely with these since knives should be effective cutting tools and a "knife" without a handle is really just a finished blade.
I certainly would not buy a Strider and if I really wanted a sharpened prybar (I went through that phase very early on in my collecting), it would be a simple matter to find one with a handle for a lot less money.
 
One man's opinion that goes against the tide...don't let it maximize your blood pressure...there's plenty of Strider puppy love threads to counter act this one.

It's not clear to me why he has to tell Strider about their deficient prodeuct, they know what they're doing. Making boatloads of money with a product that is relatively in-expensive to make. There are knives that both chop and cut, and have handles that last and are comfortable...Busse, Mad Dog, Randall, etc. Part of this community's problem is a core group that loves the flavor of the moment, and butchers those that say the sacred cow is just hamburger.

Why does Rinaldi care about what's in Marty's pants?

Actually, inflammatory statements are part of the Strider boy's tradition, read the posts that destroyed their forum. There's a lot of knives out there, the Srider boys behavior is enough reason to leave their product on the shelf.
 
Everyone's entitled to their own stupid opinion, as the saying goes ;) Here's mine. I've never handled a Strider, and there's alot of subjective 'analysis' involved with knives, but I have to say if you are buying a 'user' knife, such as a Strider, I don't know if you can truthfully say they are not up to par without actually USING it for its intended purpose (eg. opening ammo cans, prying the treads off tanks, etc, etc, etc). The prices seem sky high to me, and my little wallet. For my money I'd buy Beckers, Swamp Rats then Busses. If I'm ever wealthy enough to classify Striders as "pocket change" I'll have some of them too! Until then, I'll just look at the facts, which seem to be great steel, great heat treat, unbeatable warranty. Sure it's alot of money, but they seem to be alot of knife, too.


Regards,

Shaun.
 
Marty,

So these Rhobust Rugged tools are not what you are looking for or even understand - move on then and look for a fancy knife with little engravings on it that you can use to cut little pieces of string that you have hanging from your T-shirt, oh yes and pay $20 for!

The Strider Guys have designed a product that MANY SPECIAL people (US Forces, Etc.) use and consider as a TOOL that will save their lives should they choose to use it! I have the highest respect for these tools and the people that use them. I would suggest that you choose your wording a little more carefully next time you disrespect something that you abs. NO clue about! Wake up!
 
K basicly the guys who hate striders here its because of price...Ive worked in retail for quite a bit and I know easily how to pick out a guy who wants to buy something cheaper and wants to bash the more expensive model cause he cant afford it. im not trying to get mean here with what im going to say but god sakes its the damn truth.

~ If you can't afford a 400+ dollar knife that will be re wrapped re sharpened re finished FOR LIFE at no additional charge and is warrentied for life FINE! But how dare you say its a piece of crap. Some pansies out there would prolly have the nerve to say a SPYDERCO would outperform a Strider in hard use. Or maybe some other mass produced crap knives.. cause god knows there are abundances out there. These people hate expensive stuff cause its OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE I laugh at your ignorances. Why dont you guys search under strider threads you will see I started one asking about differances between a strider and very high end production knives I believe it was..... Unlike people who buy from word-of-mouth I buy based on objective reasoning. How about you guys who hate strider based on thickness stfu and read their website before you come flame a top notch blade.. QUOTE DIRECTLY TAKEN FROM STRIDER WEBSITE: " Other steels are available, such as BG-42. However, at this time we find ATS-34 to be exceptional and consistent steel for our purposes. All steels are available in varying lengths, widths, and thickness." Enough said.
 
Marty, Marty, Marty......:rolleyes:

Are you really that upset by your perception of Strider that you have to bash their knives to that degree. Sure...I realize that you have a right to express your World According To Marty opinion, but don't you have any better way to blow off steam? I mean really man...

Nobody's twisting you arm to buy a Strider. The proof is in the puddin' as to the quality of these blades by virtue of testament provided by the professionals that depend on a stout blade and a sharp edge.

I'm outa here. This isn't worth the time I've spent here already. Jeez....

:rolleyes:
 
marty123 - knife prices have no relationship to their cutting ability. That point has been made abundantly clear, over and over and over on these forums. Actually, it is just simple logic.

That that might offend your sensibility seems a little obtuse since you would seem to have some experience in this regard and have been on these forums for a while.

As to why Strider Knives are able to charge such high prices for their work I can offer this. A well known Strider dealer once told me that their "...very best customers are armchair commandos."

Plain and simple, many Strider designs, as is the case with a number of knifemakers, manage to fulfill the fantasies of many a person who dream of plunging their "tool" deep into the heart of their enemy. Is $350 or so too high a price to pay for entertainment?
 
with the usual old knife threads, here come the Striders, Busse, Griffiths, Mad Dogs, etc. Gives me something to do.


I don't even know what a Strider costs or looks like, and I don't care. :p I mean a knife is for cutting, so I just carry a Ginsu.
You saw those commeercials right?
 
I'm a big Strider fan, and client (I put my money where my mouth is) and I heartily agree with you assessment. The knives you mentioned are sharpened prybars. To that end, a Humvee (not the H2, a pretender on a Tahoe frame), is not a limosuine. (Part of that cost goes to hardening by Paul Bos, the best guy in the business.)

If you want to SLICE, and you want a Strider, do as I do, buy an SnG. With a fresh polished edge, it slices like a Microtech Tanto.

Ya' know, you just did a commercial for Strider; some guys WANT a sharpened prybar. You just told then the best one to get.
 
It is interesting that MM brings this up as he has influenced me to come over to the other side and purchase a John Ek knife when I was looking at Randalls. As well, others have cajoled me into purchasing Becker, Busse, and Swamp Rat through their opinions and recommendations.

IMHO, I think that knife ownership is a very personal choice and one should be discriminating. That discrimination is through critique of what is appropriate for one's use. Does one have a right to one's opinion? I think so. Does one have a right to slag a company's name through the mud? No. I think constructive criticism is valid especially if the craftsmen welcome it and the potential client is seeking to be as helpful. If opinions are asked for, then give it with some discretion out of respect to the maker.

I own a Strider MFS and I like it. I think they are good knives although I have others which I can rotate through for my use, if need be. The price of the Striders do kind of scare me, though, and the one I have is a luxury to me.

Mind you, I used to think Benchmade, Cold Steel, and Spydercos were the ultimate knives way back when. How wrong I was. I would like think I have evolved.

Originally posted by MelancholyMutt
I used to think that I didn't need a Strider... had no use for a sharp prybar...

I've got a pretty extensive collection as it is and would never think of using a knife for anything other than cutting. Chopping is for Axes and prying is for crowbars. I used to justify my not having one the same way by saying that they were overpriced junk... But that was me in denial...

Then, Guro Jeff sold me a pair of Strider MTL's... I've gone further and gotten a pair of D-9's and my next target will be the BT's...

Taking the price arguement out of the picture (cause one man's fortune may be another's pocket change), I speculate that most naysayers have never owned one and that most owners have been satisfied with their Strider.
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Some people want/need a knife (or sharpened crowbar) that can have a bomb dropped on them and still be in great shape. To each his own. From what I have seen and read much of the Strider line fits that bill very well. I say long live the sharpened crowbar.
 
I'm not particularly fond of them myself for many reasons [ all personal ] but not becuase I can't afford them.

If I wanted to spend that much money on a folder I'd have a custom one made for me to my specs for about the same price [and in fact have several that were either customs on a knife table or I had made for me.

They seem to be rugged using knives from others posts and comments, however, I don't believe a defensive knife needs to be a prybar. If I need a prybar I'll use a prybar as it is the right tool for the job.

As to warrantee, lots of production companies offer the same. They'll replace it or fix it [usually replaced ]even if it shows signs it was abused past it's design perameters.

If one makes similiar statements about something I carry I do not take offense as everyones tastes, likes, dislikes, needs are different. Mine that I carry suit me fine for their intended role and others are welcome to disagree.

I see no need to defend what I carry to others nor feel threatened when others aren't as enthused as I am about my choices.

Brownie
 
It its very easy to say "use an axe for chopping and a prybar for prying, ect...." but it is not always that simple. I carry an older Strider GB for work. This folder sees alot of use. I have broken several good knives while trying to pry. Why was I prying with a knife? Because that was all I had on me at the time and I could not just stop and go find a prybar.

When I am not working I carry an SnG or a Carson folder. These are geared more towards slicing, which is what I mostly need when I am not working.

Strider makes a tool, if you do not like it, do not buy it.

As for the cord wrap not being a handle, you are right. They are a handle covering, just like micarta, g-10, ivory, stag, ect.....
 
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