Strider Knives. Why So Much?

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Nternal said:
Best post in the thread, It's amazing how so many posters on BF turn everything into a personal direction. We are talking about a sharpened piece of steel..why make everything into a soap opera? I must say that I never quite seen such a sensitive bunch when it comes to the personal aspects of knife makers and companies. I understand someone being turned off by something because of a lie that might hit home on a personal level but sometimes I think some take it too far.
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You should be ashamed of this post, it's not just that the creep committed an armed robbery, upon partial completion(parole)of his debt, he promptly went about the despicable act of "stealing someone else's valor," and in doing, built his little enterprise entirely around that theft/lie! What your post say's, is that you personally, have no character, and as a result you could care less if anyone else has any either! Sometimes you just have to be an adult, that means you just have to say no...I've looked over the perp's knives many times, they are not nearly good enough for me to ditch my honor and purchase one of them, no sir, not nearly!
 
About 10 years ago there was a knife store in Dublin, Ca that stocked a variety of Strider and Chris Reeve knives. I was really torn between
the Sebbie and the SNG at that point so the guy who worked at the store provided a demonstration of both products for my benefit. He turned
several Sebenzas and Strider PT and SNG examples on their spines so we could examine the quality and lockup. NONE of the Striders locked
up in the same way or with the same integrity while ALL of the Sebbies were virtually identical in their fit, finish and frame lock rigidity. Several
of the Striders looked to me that a return to the manufacturer would be necessary for adjustment while all of the CRK products were perfect
right out of the box. I have two Sebenzas and a Mnandi and no Striders. I don"t care if the guy is a liar or not; the kind of money in
play demands the best knife for the cash.
 
2 words "HEAT TREAT " ! I have never owned one but the stories I have been told is that there heat treat is next to none . They use the Boss heat treat same as Buck but with higher end steel . Personally I would go with a ZT 550 instead but that is just me .....
 
The way I see it, the knives are great but the owners... not quite sure about their past based on "rumors". However, from what I have seen on another forum, the Strider crew is very honest and stands behind their knives 110%. This is based on my own personal experience and observations. Also, my first and only (for now) Strider SnG came pretty much perfect- solid lock up, no blemishes or f&f issues. I think a large part of it is your first experience as with anything. One bad first-experience can ruin something. My advice is that if you receive a Strider with some sort of defect, send it in ( I have no doubt they'd take care of it) and see how you like it after carrying/using it in "proper" working order. My SnG has kicked my Sebenza and all my other knives out of my pocket for 95% of the time since I bought it. Really just a well thought out design that "just works". In regard to price, I think the production models aren't terribly priced but the customs are another story that i'm not going to get into. The production models are really some of the toughest, if not, THE toughest folders I have ever handled/used. So, if that $400 or so lasts you a life-time, it really isn't a very large investment in the long-run. Plus, if you decide it's not for you, it will be easy to sell at minimal loss- or, just give it to me :D. Personally, I think they are worth the $400. As a comparison, look at the large Sebenza: titanium framelock, S30V or S35VN. The same materials as Strider folders minus the G10. The SnG is closest in size and still costs $25 less (usually) than a Sebenza. Also, I want to add that the heat treat on Striders is next to none. Never had mine chip, roll, dent, ding, nothing. And it holds it's edge incredibly well.
 
Gator97 said:
No, but why should I reward lies and dishonesty used to promote the said knife, which btw has absolutely nothing to do with "dues" Strider paid, it was for another offense. By the same token, what is so special about Strider that one should be ok to overlook false claims and misinformation anyway.



I suspect you are mixing up felon past and false claims later on(which was used to promote his products).

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One thing I don't remember from Mick on BF, ever was expressing regret for anything he did or said. I do remember lots of name calling and insults from him to unhappy customers though.
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Oh I'm not in denial. I know he did some shitty things, some REALLY shitty things. I just don't care much.

Life is too short for me to get worked up over something that someone I've never met did years ago. I just want to enjoy the knife while I'm still breathing. :)
 
not quite sure about their past based on "rumors".
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Please, do you even take the time to read the little posts, before responding to them? I've posted a handful of links, though the repost of the Bladeforum link will not reload again in the same thread, you'll have to page back to find the active link. You should take a moment to look them over, the one from the owner of this web site is particularly instructive! All I can do is lead you to the water, I can't drink it for you too...
 
I've never met Mick and I don't really care to.

I have, however, talked to Duane a few times. He took the time to talk to me for about 20 minutes when his wife and kids were standing there waiting for him. He really takes this business seriously and he seems genuine enough. It's true, he is extremely knowledgeable when it comes to heat treats and steels.

The heat treat on Strider's S30v is the best I have ever used.
 
Life is too short for me to get worked up over something that someone I've never met did years ago
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He was lying about his military service right on up to getting caught in the early 2000's, he built his entire business image around the lies, not exactly ancient history, is it now? He's still lying as I see it, thats because he never stepped forward and told the truth, or apologized for his "Valor theft." I'll bet you'd care if somebody ripped you off in a transaction though, woudn't you? There is absolutely no difference...
 
Finarfin said:
He was lying about his military service right on up to getting caught in the early 2000's, he built his entire business image around the lies, not exactly ancient history, is it now? He's still lying as I see it, thats because he never stepped forward and told the truth, or apologized for his "Valor theft." I'll bet you'd care if somebody ripped you off in a transaction though, woudn't you? There is absolutely no difference...
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That's a straw man argument, and a bad one at that. Stealing and lying are two different things, even though it's called "stolen valor", it's still just plain old lying.

I bought a Strider before I ever even knew who the owners were, and I would venture to say that I am not alone. It didn't matter then, and it still doesn't now. By your logic a person should never be forgiven for anything they've ever done, unless they publicly shame themselves and beg for forgiveness. I don't know what world you live in, but that's now how it works.

Once again, I don't care. He messed up, so what? He lied, so what? I'm sure you've lied hundreds of times in your life, so what?

I will still enjoy the knife and not get caught up in the drama. Getting so worked up over it is pointless, as it won't change a thing.
 
As far as service goes I traded into an SNG CC RG TS about 3 or 4 weeks ago with lock rock clearly stated by the other party. Everything else about the knife was brand new (S30V SNG era). I sent Josh an email in between the holidays and asked if I needed to do anything besides just send it in with a note of what is wrong and my contact info. He replied within 3-5 minutes and said "send it in and we'll fix it up for you".

I didn't waste any time boxing it up, typing up a work sheet and asked that the lock rock be fixed, adjust it so there is no side to side play and if possible, center the slightly off center blade when closed.

I sent the knife to them via UPS insured for my protection. $12 and change for my cost to ship.

The knife arrived in San Marcos on January 3, 2012, three days after shipping from Reno.

Seven days later the knife arrived to my door (I provided the option of shipping to my office or my home and they chose office) on January 10, 2012 in superb condition. Lock rock completely gone, even with a solid tug on the blade. No side to side play, excellent action and the blade dead center when closed. And the lock up was extremely early too.

So that knife was received at Strider, fixed perfectly, shipped back to me and received at my office in 7 days. All total from the day I shipped it was a 10 day turnaround right after New Years day.

Frankly, that is the fastest turn around time I have ever experienced from any knife MFG that I have ever returned a knife to.

I can't complain one bit about Strider Service. I suppose some would feel in the dark by not being coddled through the entire process and I can undertsand that but I followed the standard protocol for Strider Service as publised at the Green Site and it worked perfectly.
 
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Finarfin said:
Please, do you even take the time to read the little posts, before responding to them? I've posted a handful of links, though the repost of the Bladeforum link will not reload again in the same thread, you'll have to page back to find the active link. You should take a moment to look them over, the one from the owner of this web site is particularly instructive! All I can do is lead you to the water, I can't drink it for you too...
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Actually, I have read all of them and am very aware of all the situations as it is a topic that has been beaten to death numerous times year after year here. I think you missed the point of that part of my post: I was saying I wasn't quite sure of them based on what I have read which I can assume are partly rumors although some of it is proven. Don't get all fussy now.
 
cziv said:
If I order a Strider SMF, how do I know if I'm getting one with the old cupped tang or the new more straight across one like the Sbenza and Hinderer make?
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You won't. That has only been implemented in the new SJ75, not in the SnG or SMF yet
 
That's a straw man argument, and a bad one at that. Stealing and lying are two different things, even though it's called "stolen valor", it's still just plain old lying.

I bought a Strider before I ever even knew who the owners were, and I would venture to say that I am not alone. It didn't matter then, and it still doesn't now. By your logic a person should never be forgiven for anything they've ever done, unless they publicly shame themselves and beg for forgiveness. I don't know what world you live in, but that's now how it works.
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You're obfuscating the issue, and rationalizing your duplicity in his ongoing crime, as some sort of absolution, which is utterly self-serving BS. It's you that has made the bad argument, in fact you've really made no argument at all! Essentially you're just saying that you don't care that he has victimized innocent men & women, just so long as you get your's, which is extremely self-centered! My observation is quite valid, you'd very likely scream your brains out if it was you that had been victimized by his actions, that you feel you weren't makes all the rest okay. Theft of honor appears to be a concept alien to you, unfortunately, you are not alone in this self-centeredness, modern America is overrun with such folks, it's why the high court tossed out the crime of "stolen valor" as a violation of the 1st amendment.
 
DrOpPoInT1110 said:
Actually, I was saying I wasn't quite sure of them based on what I have read which I can assume are partly rumors although some of it is proven. Don't get all fussy now.
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If you had simply taken the time to read the first page in the link I posted the thread from the owner of "Bladeforums" you'd not make such a silly statement. Do you think for a moment that if these were not the facts, that if they were not totally, absolutely, true, that this Strider would have just left the forum, and kept his mouth shut, as opposed to suing "Bladeforums" ass into bankruptcy for slandering him and his business? Good bit of logic you've got there...
 
To those arguing over things that have nothing to do with the physical knife: Oh who give's a rat's ass.

To the OP:

It's your money; I suggest buying the one you like best.

And a good evening.

-T616
 
I guess I give a rat's ass.

Mick Strider said:
No im not. I like people going to our dealers.

This knife was not purchased through our dealer network.

This knife is at LEAST second hand....who knows how beat the thing is. It may have even been gifted to someone....i have no way of knowing becuase it was not purchased through our dealer network.

If i purchased a knife second hand.....or a gun or a car, i would contact the manufacturer and ask if there was some way to take care of a problem, which there always is with us even if you go the thing second hand, rather than go to a forum and talk about how the manufacturing of ten year old gear is going down hill.

But thats just me....

you all do what you want.....




That means a lot coming from you.....oh thats right...your no one.
Lick my sack loser!

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"Lick my sack loser!" That's some next generation class right there from a respected knife maker. I think Strider knives would be great if the owners acted more like Sal Glesser.
 
A lot of people on their high horse moral crusader bit. Thats fine, do what you please. But respect other peoples choice to do the same.
 
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