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Why exactly are Strider knives so darn expensive? your paying for a piece of S30V with 40 cents of cord around the handle, nothing special, and yet you would be hard pressed to get one for under $300.00, what makes them worth that much money? Why cord handles why not Micarta (seems more practical)? And for the most part their designs are highly impractical (especially for the $300.00 +)

And why is a knife this simple and so easy to manufacture so expensive? :

http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/strider_st_karambit.htm

What does this following knife have over a knife of similar size such as the Fallkniven F1? Besides being over 2x the price? :

http://www.plazacutlery.com/Strider/Strider0830318.htm

Just curious to why these Knives are so bank breaking and yet so impractical. :)

I would much rather have any of the Busse, Swamprat or Scrapyard family for any task (Better Steel, Better Design, Better Price)... :D
 
Wabajack said:
Why exactly are Strider knives so darn expensive? your paying for a piece of S30V with 40 cents of cord around the handle, nothing special, and yet you would be hard pressed to get one for under $300.00, what makes them worth that much money? Why cord handles why not Micarta (seems more practical)? And for the most part their designs are highly impractical (especially for the $300.00 +)

And why is a knife this simple and so easy to manufacture so expensive? :

http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/strider_st_karambit.htm

What does this following knife have over a knife of similar size such as the Fallkniven F1? Besides being over 2x the price? :

http://www.plazacutlery.com/Strider/Strider0830318.htm

Just curious to why these Knives are so bank breaking and yet so impractical. :)

I would much rather have any of the Busse, Swamprat or Scrapyard family for any task (Better Steel, Better Design, Better Price)... :D
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Have you ever been in the Sandbox?
Have you ever been on Badlands?
No.......?
You have been blessed. :D:D
 
I guess impractical depends on definition...

I'm pretty new to the knife thing... Mostly keep folders. However, I do have functions best performed by a fixed blade and decided to invest in a good quality fixed knife about two months ago for general woods-craft, SD knife if I was ever that desperate (again), and something that could, in whatever unfortunate circumstance, be used as a pry-aid.

I have owned an MFS for two months now, and can say I do not regret the purchase at all. The knife has been used to clean small game, dig rocks out of tent sites, baton kindling, pry aluminum sheeting off a backyard shed... I have cut two inch bridle leather with it numerous times... Basically beat the knife with no reservations, and despite some appearance issues, the knife is still as solid as the day I bought it.

I have an interest in small Busse knifes as well, but the fact of the matter, as applied to my case, was that spending 230.00$ on a good small fixed knife with a functional sheath I feel more comfortable about then spending as much and having to hunt down an after-market sheath. It might seem trivial, but the knife was to be used and carried right out of the box and I needed a suitable carry system post-haste.

I wear the MFS in a horizontal kydex on the back of my belt and am very happy with how the sheath and carry placement have worked out so far.

A couple of people have laughed at the tiger-striping, or called the wrap handle uncomfortable... Though these same people consistently ask for my knife to do something they will not admit not trusting their own steel to do, and I'm happy with that.

I'm not an "operative" or a martial art student... I don't plan on going to war or working assasinations...

I do work hard and "play" hard as well, and my tools are often victim to that.
I have also, unfortuanetely, been involved in a knife on knife incident before and was lucky enough to walk away with a better understanding of what actually works and does not (for ME) in this context.

Like I said, no expert, visionary, or God. Just a user/ abuser who is happy with his Strider purchase.

Take it for what it is.
 
To each their own.
Regarding your mention of a sheath, I am sure there are many really good reasons why this is the case such as preferance etc.
I agree with you.
For that sort of money I want a decent sheath, if its not my style I will source my own later, thats my choice, but give a knife a home even if its a Bushman type sheath its better than nothing (just)
 
Wabajack said:
Why exactly are Strider knives so darn expensive? your paying for a piece of S30V with 40 cents of cord around the handle, nothing special, and yet you would be hard pressed to get one for under $300.00, what makes them worth that much money? Why cord handles why not Micarta (seems more practical)? And for the most part their designs are highly impractical (especially for the $300.00 +)

And why is a knife this simple and so easy to manufacture so expensive? :

http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/strider_st_karambit.htm

What does this following knife have over a knife of similar size such as the Fallkniven F1? Besides being over 2x the price? :

http://www.plazacutlery.com/Strider/Strider0830318.htm

Just curious to why these Knives are so bank breaking and yet so impractical. :)

I would much rather have any of the Busse, Swamprat or Scrapyard family for any task (Better Steel, Better Design, Better Price)... :D
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This is why I refuse to buy them. I could care less about their politics.
 
Hmmm. Another one of these threads. Do a search and read to find your reasons why or why not a Strider. If you want a fixed blade knife there are plenty to choose from that will give you alot of knife for the money. Ontario makes some great blades, Mil-Tac makes some upper scale blades, Dozier makes some of the best D2 steel blades around and Trident Knives makes the Oberland 02 that is mind boggling as far as heft and build. Plenty more to choose from but YOU need to make the decision and do the homework.

MPE
 
Wabajack said:
Why exactly are Strider knives so darn expensive? your paying for a piece of S30V with 40 cents of cord around the handle, nothing special, and yet you would be hard pressed to get one for under $300.00, what makes them worth that much money? Why cord handles why not Micarta (seems more practical)? And for the most part their designs are highly impractical (especially for the $300.00 +)

And why is a knife this simple and so easy to manufacture so expensive? :

http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/strider_st_karambit.htm

What does this following knife have over a knife of similar size such as the Fallkniven F1? Besides being over 2x the price? :

http://www.plazacutlery.com/Strider/Strider0830318.htm

Just curious to why these Knives are so bank breaking and yet so impractical. :)

I would much rather have any of the Busse, Swamprat or Scrapyard family for any task (Better Steel, Better Design, Better Price)... :D
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Hi LT! While its great that you are posting under a funky screen name, it is overall more effective if you don't use the exact same wording as on your website. :thumbup:
 
Wabajack said:
And why is a knife this simple and so easy to manufacture so expensive? :

http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/strider_st_karambit.htm
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An other civil war is coming.
I'm not sure a "knife this simple" is "so easy to manufacture".
Those knives are expensive and are sold according to the law of supply and demand. If there is a demand it's cause:
a) Somes people have a use for those knives.
b) Somes people want to look like the people who have a use for those knives.
c)Somes people collect the knives the a)people use.

dantzk.
 
It's all about Marketing. You price high, you create the "illusion" of a superior product.

Personally, I'd rather spend my money on a Busse Combat knife or a Dozier. I like to buy from guys who have integrity, many years of experience, can produce a superior product and justify the cost. Not from a thieving car jacker who lies and overcharges for a piece of steel that has a low grade finish with a cord wrap -that in itself is daylight robbery.

IMHO, a Strider is like a "fantasy" knife, they don't cut well, you can't beat the hell out of them, and if you really want to mess someone up, a $3 "made in China" machete will work just fine. Of the percentage of people who buy Stiders who actually use them, how many use them in a tactical situation? As for their folders, a Sebenza is a better knife -and is a lot cheaper.

Basically, I guess if you've got the dough, it's nice to add something "different" to your collection, but in terms of real world applications, there are a lot of better choices out there at a better price.
 
dantzk8 said:
An other civil war is coming.
I'm not sure a "knife this simple" is "so easy to manufacture".
Those knives are expensive and are sold according to the law of supply and demand. If there is a demand it's cause:
a) Somes people have a use for those knives.
b) Somes people want to look like the people who have a use for those knives.
c)Somes people collect the knives the a)people use.

dantzk.
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Yep! Here it comes.
 
I think has to do a lot with MARKETING.

Strider in knife community is like Louis Vuitton at Bags; Farrari at cars....etc.
its like famouse brand, famouse groups of maker, you just have to pay a famouose price!

A pair of Jordan 23 jumpman will cost $300+ for a sneaker, higher price is supply is short. A pair of converse WAS $19.99 7-10 yrs ago, now is $39.99.

Its all about MARKETING.

If you like the design, a pair 300+ sneaker might be worth it in your opinion. Or knife, or a car, or......etc. If not, you just won't stupid enough to put down your hard earn money on it.
 
Strider charges what the market will bear. More power to them.

I'm sure most of us know better, though.
 
digitalrebelttu said:
Hi LT! While its great that you are posting under a funky screen name, it is overall more effective if you don't use the exact same wording as on your website. :thumbup:
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You have me confused for another person, I assure you I am not who you claim I am, I do not have a website. But I can understand your mistake. :)

I would like to see this website so I can better understand what you are talking about though... :D

PS - Glad you think my name is funky :)
 
"IMHO, a Strider is like a "fantasy" knife, they don't cut well, you can't beat the hell out of them, and if you really want to mess someone up, a $3 "made in China" machete will work just fine. Of the percentage of people who buy Stiders who actually use them, how many use them in a tactical situation? As for their folders, a Sebenza is a better knife -and is a lot cheaper."

Striders don't cut well? Is there any empirical testing to show that, in an apples to apples comparison, and does it relate to what the knife is designed to do under the conditions? Lots of testing I see linked shows some surprisingly low performers in every line.

You can't beat the hell out of them? Again, subjective, and to what standards? Aside from amateur videos, there is no evidence pro or con.

As for the machete, a baseball bat could do better, but the old adage of showing up a gun fight with a knife holds true with most. The military and LEO's training is heavily biased in favor of firearms, as is the concept of concealed carry licensing. I don't see the term "covert deanimation" in Strider advertising, but I do see a lot of professionals with guns. Leave it to them to continue to lead the way.

Lots of knives are used in tactical situations - I guess all those sold in the PX are just as dumb, like the Spyderco MILITARY, the CRKT M-16 series, the Cold Steel RECON SCOUT, etc. Poor dumb kids buying all that ninja hardware.

Sebenza is a nice knife - but cheap? And what would you price titanium folders at?

If this is an attempt to tear down Strider, as annoying as they may be to some, it's probably because they're being successful.
 
More like dried egg whites . . . :D

P.S. Thanks for your line of reasoning elsewhere - just maybe they will see the pattern in that "Damascus" path.
 
Allan Molstad said:
Well, supply and demand...
Think about it, in the greatest painting you can name, (Monolisa, Sisteen chapel etc) there more than likely is only about $20 to $60 bucks of paint ....
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Yes,certainly no more than 60 bucks of paint but i think, although i'm not an art expert, that it's the talent of Leonardo Da vinci which makes the value of Mona Lisa rather than the cost of the paint (even if you add the cost of the brush).
Don't get me wrong i'm not telling you Mike Strider is the Da Vinci of the cuttlery for this simple reason: the cutttlery Da Vinci was probably a Japanese of the XVIIIth century.

dantzk.
 
The great thing about an industry is the diversity of products to fill a need and a want. There is alot of great knives out there including Strider and everyone should read about the knives of interest here and abroad. As well they should buy knives of interest from dealers willing to take back the ones not befitting to the end user.

It is a buyer beware world we live in and it is EVERYONES duty to become educated about what they are buying. When you do not put forth the effort to do so, accidents happen and other problems occure(blade play, sharpening issue, wrong knife for the job, bad fit etc. etc.). No matter who you buy from you will pay a price calculated by demand, cost of production and market or territory.

MPE
 
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