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Strider Knives?
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I have a folder and a FB from Strider. The folder is not quite my dream knife,I love the FB. Its a Strider DB. I wanted a FB knife I can carry with ease, yet will take anything from cutting to prying . One day while taking down tree stands i forgot my keys for the locks. Instead of driving home I took a hammer from my car and used it to drive my strider DB through the cable.
Thats why i bought a Strider for the unexpected.
Now I tried to find a custom maker to make me a small tanto FB that was strong and thick, well guess what?? They all were the same or more then the Strider ,and some were thinner stock some did not make sheaths for them some had long waits. So it was clear to me to get what I wanted a DB type knife I had to get a well DB.
Its funny I buy used cars and drive them 10 years, my pen is made by Bic, and the few times i wear a watch its a Timex. I don't give a rats ass about labels or trends or whats 'the best". I buy what works, and for a small do anything FB for me it was a Strider.
Not sure what a "tactical situation" is lol , but i do use mine on the job as a fire LT.
I paid 225 nib for mine, not even close to a days pay.
Thats why i bought a Strider for the unexpected.
Now I tried to find a custom maker to make me a small tanto FB that was strong and thick, well guess what?? They all were the same or more then the Strider ,and some were thinner stock some did not make sheaths for them some had long waits. So it was clear to me to get what I wanted a DB type knife I had to get a well DB.
Its funny I buy used cars and drive them 10 years, my pen is made by Bic, and the few times i wear a watch its a Timex. I don't give a rats ass about labels or trends or whats 'the best". I buy what works, and for a small do anything FB for me it was a Strider.
Not sure what a "tactical situation" is lol , but i do use mine on the job as a fire LT.
I paid 225 nib for mine, not even close to a days pay.
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to the original poster :
would you say the same thing of Hartsfields knives ? and perhaps Wally Hayes ? I have seen Hartsfields without any handle material at all selling for over $600. to you it is just a bar of steel ( Hartsfield was A2 ) with an edge on it, I assume . However to most they understand WHY they are priced the way they are.
What makes a Loveless worth more than some of the makers who are using the same designs ? same principle applies , its's a LOVELESS !!
What makes the knife world so great is there ARE so many options to choose from , from Hartsfield to Hayes to Fisk , from Strider to Emerson to Carson , and from countless other makers as well , pick what you want , if the price annoys you or you cant stomache it , pick something from someone else.
Or better yet , make a few knives yourself , see the time involved , it will give you a new outlook on what makers go put into each blade.
would you say the same thing of Hartsfields knives ? and perhaps Wally Hayes ? I have seen Hartsfields without any handle material at all selling for over $600. to you it is just a bar of steel ( Hartsfield was A2 ) with an edge on it, I assume . However to most they understand WHY they are priced the way they are.
What makes a Loveless worth more than some of the makers who are using the same designs ? same principle applies , its's a LOVELESS !!
What makes the knife world so great is there ARE so many options to choose from , from Hartsfield to Hayes to Fisk , from Strider to Emerson to Carson , and from countless other makers as well , pick what you want , if the price annoys you or you cant stomache it , pick something from someone else.
Or better yet , make a few knives yourself , see the time involved , it will give you a new outlook on what makers go put into each blade.
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I KNOW I KNOW AND ROLEX'S DON'T KEEP GOOD TIME(LOL)
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THESE ARE TOOLS TO DO A JOB.....UNDERSTAND?
Just my two cents worth....
In my opinion, Strider does seem to make a pretty indestructible folder. I've used an SnG tanto for all sorts of cutting (and some prying when I didn't have anything else to use) and the SnG really took the abuse. I also like the people that I met and talked to from Strider (Josh and Rob). I happen to work just around the corner from the shop and the customer service is top notch (similar to Busse's in my limited experience). Is the SnG (or the RC, or the SMF) that I have better than the small Spyderco that I keep in my car? Probably not as far as cutting and using on a daily basis. I do feel that the Striders I have are more functional works of art rather than just tools. Do the custom hand made bamboo flyrods that I have catch me any more fish than the $25.00 fiberglass rod I got at Kmart? No. Do I like using the bamboo rods better? Yes. Do I appreciate the amount of time that went into the process of making these items? Definitely.
Mike
In my opinion, Strider does seem to make a pretty indestructible folder. I've used an SnG tanto for all sorts of cutting (and some prying when I didn't have anything else to use) and the SnG really took the abuse. I also like the people that I met and talked to from Strider (Josh and Rob). I happen to work just around the corner from the shop and the customer service is top notch (similar to Busse's in my limited experience). Is the SnG (or the RC, or the SMF) that I have better than the small Spyderco that I keep in my car? Probably not as far as cutting and using on a daily basis. I do feel that the Striders I have are more functional works of art rather than just tools. Do the custom hand made bamboo flyrods that I have catch me any more fish than the $25.00 fiberglass rod I got at Kmart? No. Do I like using the bamboo rods better? Yes. Do I appreciate the amount of time that went into the process of making these items? Definitely.
Mike
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When you think about it....most of the steel that we make knives out of, would fetch about $2 for scrap....
The reason a knife sells for $350.00 is that it is valued highly by others with that kind of cash.
The same with fine paintings and artwork...Who says a painting is worth a million$ or more?....the answer is "The market"
It is the market that decides what something is worth,,,supply and demand.
Strider knives are worth what they are only because thats what people are willing to pay for them,,,The high price is just reflecting that level of demand for it.
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If you want a Strider knife? then good for you,
but understand that there are a lot of others who also seek such a knife and so there is going to be a supply/demand force in place that will drive up the money you will have to have on hand.
The reason a knife sells for $350.00 is that it is valued highly by others with that kind of cash.
The same with fine paintings and artwork...Who says a painting is worth a million$ or more?....the answer is "The market"
It is the market that decides what something is worth,,,supply and demand.
Strider knives are worth what they are only because thats what people are willing to pay for them,,,The high price is just reflecting that level of demand for it.
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If you want a Strider knife? then good for you,
but understand that there are a lot of others who also seek such a knife and so there is going to be a supply/demand force in place that will drive up the money you will have to have on hand.
Actually, sometimes you have to explain the nuances of how something works to get to the end result(answers to the questions). When I explain the fact that he/she needs to research and handle the knife or knives, it is not off topic, to each his/her own. When I explain market, price of production and demand, I am not off topic either. He wanted to know why they cost what they do. I also wanted to push the issue of buyer beware(read the posts here and learn in other words).
His question was a more complex question that needs to be addressed more thoroughly. When someone asks such a question they are either trolling or looking for assurance from people here to buy or not to buy. I would not want to recommend something I haven't handled myself, but felt I did have legitimate answers to the questions.
I seen mention of production cost, demand, quality(usually coinsides with production costs) and to each his/her own. I just happened to add one fascet to the list and make it a little more long winded. Just like this reply! So,
I'm sorry for being long winded, and, since I had to explain myself, I am sorry I went off topic as well.
MPE
Yes,certainly no more than 60 bucks of paint but i think, although i'm not an art expert, that it's the talent of Leonardo Da vinci which makes the value of Mona Lisa rather than the cost of the paint (even if you add the cost of the brush).
Don't get me wrong i'm not telling you Mike Strider is the Da Vinci of the cuttlery for this simple reason: the cutttlery Da Vinci was probably a Japanese of the XVIIIth century.
dantzk.
A little off topic as well?
MPE
Don't get me wrong i'm not telling you Mike Strider is the Da Vinci of the cuttlery for this simple reason: the cutttlery Da Vinci was probably a Japanese of the XVIIIth century.
dantzk.
A little off topic as well?
MPE
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Strider isn't in the same league as any of the guys mentioned above.
Check this out:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453852&highlight=Mick+Strider
Mick "Strider" built a company based on lies. He's not a Ranger, he's a felon. The man's got no integrity, I for one, will never buy a Strider. IMHO, overpriced and overhyped.
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well I refuse to get in the whole debate over Micks credibility. Nor am I gonna argue what "league" his in . He is a personal friend of mine and of my family.
my point wasnt to compare , each person has an idea of what something is worth to them. To me a Corvette is worth $40k but it aint worth it enuff for me to buy one.
the whole bash Mick thing is getting old , especially from fellow knifemakers.
my point wasnt to compare , each person has an idea of what something is worth to them. To me a Corvette is worth $40k but it aint worth it enuff for me to buy one.
the whole bash Mick thing is getting old , especially from fellow knifemakers.
And nothing speaks more of integrety than a mediocre knifemaker bashing an industry leader. Hey, maybe those comments will help you sell one more Busse-looking knife.
Many of the makers mentioned in this thread make a good knife, including CRK, Busse, Dozier, and Strider.
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That has nothing to do with the quality of the knives or lack thereof. If everyone bought their goods based on the integrity of the people who ran the company there would be many companies out of business.
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Anyone that would post something like that DEFINATLY has never held a STRIDER. I have ALL kinds of knives,Sebenza, Spidie's, BM's. Alittle bit'o everything. and my first Strider was an SMF Tanto, And when it arrived I swear it was the first knife that I've EVER got in the mail and opend the box and was ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY. And completely impressed. Everything was perfect for me. So now Basicly all I buy are Striders. Maybe an Emerson, Or Simonech,Trident. but Strider is My No.1. Some people might not like the styles, but basicly the only people that don't get it or don't like it are those that have never held and used one, Those that don't like Mick, and those that can't afford it and wish they could, so they knock it because of the price. I can't afford it but I make myself, I save and sacrafice because knives and SD are very important to me so I WILL buy the BEST. And know one can say anything about the quality or toughness or peformance. And By the way Mick WAS a Ranger, he was 2/75 but not deployed. And yes he's a felon and did 6 or so years in the FED pen. To me that makes him WAY more of a BAD A** and WAY more qualified to make knives, especially fighting knives, then any SPEC-OPS dude or LEO. He probably made some bad a** shanks in the pen. Anyway he Makes Bad a** knives now so none of that even matters to me. If you don't like the price point go buy a S&W folder at the flea market then upgrade to a spyderco maybe.