Strider SNG vs CRK Sebenza vs Hinderer Xm-18

I thought I heard it all. I'll tell you what, some of you men need to actually go out & use the knife the way it was designed & intended. Killed some sh!t, chop it up & work it!
Many here sound like keyboard Sebenza warriors that probably make fuzz sticks all day, & type with one hand.
Sebenza better than Strider :jerkit: , it's been beaten to death. Time to get out there boys & do it real!
A Strider is a tool, Sebenza's looks very much like a toy, especially with it's CR heat-treatment(snap) :D

Wow...class act.
 
338 Stalker, this is a discusssion forum. What we do here is, we talk about knives. We do not talk about each other. We especially do not talk about each other in derogatory terms.

You don't like the talk, find another discussion.
 
338 Stalker, this is a discusssion forum. What we do here is, we talk about knives. We do not talk about each other. We especially do not talk about each other in derogatory terms.

You don't like the talk, find another discussion.

I for one, I did not use a "derogatory term". OK the guy stroking his rod. But why is that even on as an option, if it cannot be used! Two, I'll say what ever I like as I haven't pinned pointed anyone, with names. So I will defend a knife I like to a certain degree, if it gets persecuted :D . I'm done. Onwards & upwards lads, nuff said. Lets get on with it then :thumbup:
 
338, I've said as much about Sebenzas - but politeness goes a long way on the forums. After all is said and done, its about literacy, argumentation, and discussion, on the interweb. Obviously, few who walk the talk have time to express their inner feelings when more important things could be done. Esav has moderated discussions on this before, and the Strider guys get their share of lumps here.

The Strider vs. Sebbie thing is a comparison of two different knives made for two different task lists for two different kinds of users. Adding Hinderer just adds more imbalance to the comparison - it is a using knife, like the Strider. Sebbies are sold to the crowd who want the birth certificate and leather slipcase so they never scratch it up. Sebbie users post about cutting up food stuffs in the kitchen, or at worst, copper wire. Strider and Hinderer users talk about chopping concrete and prying open locked doors.

Both sides aren't really using the tool for what it's designed for, just pointing out extremes that are abusive, or a total waste of the implement. Each side would be better equipped with a prybar or butter knife. What it does boil down to is, which knife gives the owner an ego trip for his $400.

It's the same on gun forums, a constant race to top the other posters with their favorite .45 as better, when in reality, a fairly cheap revolver will do. But you don't get a lot of discussion about inexpensive stuff, because money and egos will always escalate an argument. If, as you pointed out, more people would spend time doing, and not bragging about what they bought, maybe things would be a little better in the world.

They would at least know not to chop concrete or spend $400 for a baloney cutter.
 
338, I've said as much about Sebenzas - but politeness goes a long way on the forums. After all is said and done, its about literacy, argumentation, and discussion, on the interweb. Obviously, few who walk the talk have time to express their inner feelings when more important things could be done. Esav has moderated discussions on this before, and the Strider guys get their share of lumps here.

The Strider vs. Sebbie thing is a comparison of two different knives made for two different task lists for two different kinds of users. Adding Hinderer just adds more imbalance to the comparison - it is a using knife, like the Strider. Sebbies are sold to the crowd who want the birth certificate and leather slipcase so they never scratch it up. Sebbie users post about cutting up food stuffs in the kitchen, or at worst, copper wire. Strider and Hinderer users talk about chopping concrete and prying open locked doors.

Both sides aren't really using the tool for what it's designed for, just pointing out extremes that are abusive, or a total waste of the implement. Each side would be better equipped with a prybar or butter knife. What it does boil down to is, which knife gives the owner an ego trip for his $400.

It's the same on gun forums, a constant race to top the other posters with their favorite .45 as better, when in reality, a fairly cheap revolver will do. But you don't get a lot of discussion about inexpensive stuff, because money and egos will always escalate an argument. If, as you pointed out, more people would spend time doing, and not bragging about what they bought, maybe things would be a little better in the world.

They would at least know not to chop concrete or spend $400 for a baloney cutter.

I can pry open doors and chop through concrete with my SNG? WOW! I like it even more now! :thumbup:
 
A mature discussion does allow for other opinions from everyone involved. No one wins on an open forum because in the end, its up to the individual to decide which one suits them best. No one will ever be badgered into agreeing with another party here.

Sort of reminds me of sitting around the fire in Derby, West Australia when I was working down under. People from all over the world and all over Oz sitting there drinking beer. Always a contentious issue was which State made the best beer in Oz. It was always downhill from there. Never a clear winner IMO.


Same here. It is whatever knife does the job best for you personally. Here is a pic of the three plus my EDC. You will be able to tell which one I use daily. IMO it does have the best lock up, best ergo's, best blade period.

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My opinion on the three knives:

Strider's knife is the biggest of the three, it SHOULD take the most abuse (why would you abuse a custom or low production knife?).

The Sebby has the thinnest edge, for most people it would probably be the best daily use knife, it SHOULD cut the best.

The XM-18 can do anything a knife can do and a bit more if you honestly have to abuse it. It won't cut quite as well as the thin hallow ground blade of the Sebby but it will hold up better to rough use.

If you do more slicing and light cutting the Sebby will be the best it has a relatively thin blade, the XM-18 has a bit thicker edge, it will take all the hard use a knife ever should. IMHO the Strider is more of a tank than a knife, it won't have nearly the cutting ability of either other knife with it's thick blade.

Take this how you may, for me it's more of a choice between the Sebby and the Xm-18, either one will work for almost any knife use, but each one has more of it's place.
 
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We are not all college professors but it does seem there are a few words we could get right on a forum devoted to .. sharp and shiny objects. :p
 
Actually, this is one of the more civil threads on this topic. I never really take versus posts too seriously, in the end I will likely buy all of them and decide for myself which I prefer for what and for when.
 
Actually, this is one of the more civil threads on this topic. I never really take versus posts too seriously, in the end I will likely buy all of them and decide for myself which I prefer for what and for when.

Quoted for truth :D:thumbup:
 
Yeah, out of all of the versus threads, thsi one stayed pretty civil. I was actually reading to see who's head was going to get chopped off first :D. I guess I got that from being in the W&C too much :p.

IMHO, and not having owned any of the three, I'd go for an Emerson CQC-12 :thumbup:. G-10, Titanium frame lock, sells for right under $300, but is priced at about ~$400. Usually resells for $250, and is a great knife with the emerson wave.
 
I for one, I did not use a "derogatory term".

Many here sound like keyboard Sebenza warriors that probably make fuzz sticks all day, & type with one hand.

:confused: :confused:


OK the guy stroking his rod. But why is that even on as an option, if it cannot be used!

It's an option to shake your naked privates at the next cop you see. Since it's an option, I imagine you'll have to take it. :p

Two, I'll say what ever I like as I haven't pinned pointed anyone, with names.

Best of luck getting past 100 posts here. :D :thumbup:


For me it goes:
1. XM-18
2. Sebenza
3. SNG

+1. I've owned or handled (passaround) all three. Like everyone here says, it's about personal preference.
 
I have a second generation XM-18. I beat it to hell....so far I have had it for almost 2 years. 12 of them have been in Iraq. I carry it everyday and have used to it cut a chicken's head off and pry off brass locks off doors. I love it. I didnt realize it was worth so much now.
 
Not wanting to get off topic but have you looked at the ZT0301, it has the hinderer lock, the same or similar Ti side as the Hinderer/strider, it has a recurve blade and is built like a tank, its also a flipper like the xm,(but assisted), its also like half the price and available it shops as of right now...just a thought to muddy the waters...
+1!

I cannot see myself paying that much for Strider, when I can easily buy a ZT 0300 series for half the price (and less). I've handled a couple of Strider and couldn't find any difference quality-wise between them and the ZT's. If anything, the ZTs I've handled have had tighter tolerances...
 
When I first started on bladeforums I loved the strider for its tactical appearance and it is a well made knife. IMO now I would rather take the Sebenza or XM-18 because it is more of a gentleman's folder because of its appearance.

My two cents
 
There are a lot of big, tough knives out there.

I am a confirmed Sebenzanista, but I've got an SnG, MOD CQDs, Extrema Ratio Nemesis, ZT 0200 and a Ka-Bar Mule (which costs a small fraction of the others' prices) and any one of them will take most people through crowbar situations.

Anyone putting the others down is speaking from ignorance or incompetence. Are there differences? Sure. But it's not like any of them are a shabby choice. Mocking people who carry a different knife on this level is absurd.
 
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