STRIDER vs Emerson

Lycosa said:
sutherland- The lanyard goes through just one one of the lanyard holes. It works.
At first, I thought the same thing.
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Striders for me even though I've gone rounds with the Striderguys and followers at one point or another in the past over QC or service. If you get a good one they are really good, if not they will make it good if you don't mind giving them another $25 and waiting. I much prefer the new lockface to the old also..

As far as the 1 lanyard hole working, IMHO it usually doesn't for long and you have to replace it occasionally when the tip cuts through your current one..
 
I'm with quiet 100% on this, strider knives wont get a single cent of my money. I don't care if they make the best knife under the sun. That dishonorable stolen valor loser is a disgrace for lying about military service to sell knives.

I know I know, the usual dudes will pop in and say "who cares if he lied about what he did in the army, and was a really dishonorable wannabe who made up a story to sell knives... his knife is great."

Yea ok, spend your money how you will. I'll spend mine how I want and continue telling people about the truth whenever it pops up.

That's my 2 cents. I won't argue in this thread. Just saying ill choose Emerson ALL day over strider/burger/stolen valor dude anyday. :)
Quiet said:
I would have to say if these two were the only choices I had, it'd be Emerson. I have issues with Strider for personal reasons and wouldn't spend a dime on their products. Emersons are decent knives for the money if you're smart and wait for a good deal to pop up on the Exchange. :thumbup:
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I was taught to forgive those who come to terms with what they have done and seek forgiveness. Doesn't appear to me Strider / burger has done either.

From the threads on this forum, he continued to lie and be caught in his lies.

Do you forgive everyone for everything regardless of their willingness to care or admit their wrong doings?

I already know you don't care so its fairly rhetorical. That said, we all do as we please. Enjoy your knives.
 
Lycosa said:
I was taught to forgive people.
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Good for you. I come from a military family and sorry, but some things are past forgiveness. Attempting to trade on the good name and honor of an organization you are not a part of...for money..."scum" is a good word for it. Additionally, I'm pretty sure they aren't sorry for their deception, so why would I (or anyone) forgive them?

Anyway, I've said my piece, and don't need to crap up this thread with an off-topic discussion. There are plenty of folks who feel as I do, and it makes me glad, because that's one more dollar that Mickey Burger won't be able to lay claim to.
 
I'm curious if the OP has had a change of opinion over the last few years especially considering the greater availability of the aforementioned folders and such from authorized dealers.
 
So, military people are different from regular people?
I will not cast stones.
Carry on.
rolf
 
Well to the extent that once upon a time they all signed on the line and said I will give my life for my country then yes they are different than most folks. I personally wouldn't buy a strider. I've handled them a few times and just didn't care for them aside from the maker's being a jackwagon. I've griped about emerson's fit and finish but I'd trust his knife to work with no worries.
 
Lycosa said:
So, military people are different from regular people?
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Not at all. People are just people. [edit: Read cricketdave's statement above. People are people but the man does makes a valid point.]

Folks that have served in the military have a shared bond from duty and experience that can rarely be found in other parts of society.

I have never served and can only loosely relate to the comradery involved because I grew up playing team sports. Both the military and team sports require dedication, teamwork, and discipline to succeed in a common goal. Of course one is a significant life changing commitment and the other a recreational activity.

I understand why those who have walked that walk take it as a personal offense when someone claims to have served when they haven't.
 
Your right on, in Mr. Burger/striders case he did apparently serve, he just completely made up a story about how he was a ranger and the government sent him to Somalia when in fact he was never in Somalia or deployed ANYWHERE ever. He was also dishonorable while serving his short stint in the military and was kicked out as a private after being reduced in rank.

The experience he claims to have when he promoted his knives was completely fictitious and many people called him out on it, including spark the owner of bladeforums. This is just the tip of the iceberg and there is ALOT more this phony has been caught lying about.

I am a veteran who exited the army in 2012, we have great distaste for wannabe combat hero's who make up stories that never happened. Especially if you were a dirt bag. He founded his business on these lies. The guys and gals who actually serve honorable take great issue with people like Mr. Burger.

I just wanted to clarify the issue a little so you had more understanding.
benchwarmer380 said:
Not at all. People are just people. [edit: Read cricketdave's statement above. People are people but the man does makes a valid point.]

Folks that have served in the military have a shared bond from duty and experience that can rarely be found in other parts of society.

I have never served and can only loosely relate to the comradery involved because I grew up playing team sports. Both the military and team sports require dedication, teamwork, and discipline to succeed in a common goal. Of course one is a significant life changing commitment and the other a recreational activity.

I understand why those who have walked that walk take it as a personal offense when someone claims to have served when they haven't.
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I don't care if the dude killed fifty people and got away with it, I know a good knife when I see it. Striders are one of the best out there.
 
Let's not rehash old stuff. No need to dig up the past yet again when it's in the archives already for anyone with time and opportunity to read for themselves.
 
shinyedges said:
I'm with quiet 100% on this, strider knives wont get a single cent of my money. I don't care if they make the best knife under the sun. That dishonorable stolen valor loser is a disgrace for lying about military service to sell knives.

I know I know, the usual dudes will pop in and say "who cares if he lied about what he did in the army, and was a really dishonorable wannabe who made up a story to sell knives... his knife is great."

Yea ok, spend your money how you will. I'll spend mine how I want and continue telling people about the truth whenever it pops up.

That's my 2 cents. I won't argue in this thread. Just saying ill choose Emerson ALL day over strider/burger/stolen valor dude anyday. :)
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+1. I have several Emersons and zero Striders. My money my choice.
 
RevDevil said:
I honestly disn't think the liner would be covered, especially after 10 years. But it was, and the new liner that was installed was slightly thicker than the original one. At least it looked it. A comparison on longevity would be interesting, but I think a triad lock would more than likely win since the wear is evenly distributed along 4 surface points rather than 2. You have the blade, both sides of the stop pin, and the lock bar all bearing pressure. Like comparing a 4 legged char to a 2 legged chair. Even the axis lock has 4 points of contact, the weak link if any is the Omega spring potentially wearing out.
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Yeah, that's why I've only got a Griptilian and I'll wait and see how it wears before I buy any other Axis lock knives. So far so good, I've had mine for a couple years now and it's in great shape!
Looks to me like Emerson's customer service is awesome. I can certainly tip my hat to that.
 
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The Grip series seems to have a solid Axis lock. The newer released larger knives are a little more "problematic" for many as there is some inherent lock rock in quite a few.
 
Lycosa said:
So, military people are different from regular people?
I will not cast stones.
Carry on.
rolf
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I come from a military family (father served for 28 years) and am a proud owner/user of an SnG. At the end of the day, when it comes to commerce, Military and Civilians are consumers.
- some feel they can't support Mick Strider due to his past
- some can forgive and forget
- some feel the product is worth the price
- some feel the product is overpriced
- some think that many organizations/corporations (much larger than Strider) have poor practices and are wondering where to draw the line

Having handled and owned both the SnG and CQC-7, let me say:
- both are fantastic hard use knives
- both are easy to take down
- both are comprised of great materials
- both are pigs when it comes to taking up pocket space
- both are known to have some initial lock stick

SnG sacrifices cutting edge for ergonomics. If having extended cutting edge is important to you, then look elsewhere.

Emerson utilizes a chisel grind. If you intend on doing tons of slicing, cutting, and prep, then look elsewhere.

SnG needs some coaxing with the Lock interface.

Emerson needs some coaxing with its Deployment/Action.

SnG's pocket clip could use more tension to help stay in pocket.

Emerson's G10 loves to eat up your pocket.
 
As a veteran I would rather use a plastic spork then support strider.i have had a few emerson and loved them all, I even got my little brother a cqc7 a few weeks ago as a deployment gift
 
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