Strider vs Sebenza

[Cynic2701]

Fair enough. I'm glad that you posted your personal experiences.

Anyways, I already think I sound like too much of a fanboi. In the immortal words of Avril Lavigne, I'm more of a sk8ter boi whom was told "See ya later boy".

 

[cziv]

Well, I talked with Chris Reeve on the phone for about an hour the other week, about what you say? My brand new sebenza that had an extremely sticky lock. So, no, not all of the sebenzas that leave the factory are perfect.

I'm really sorry to hear about that CTS. He mentioned the occasional lockbar being stiff was about it. I was paraphrasing quite honestly. He didn't say every knife left perfect but actually said that (lockbar being stiff) was the only issue that ever popped up rarely. I hope you get a new slab for that side or that it's corrected by carbidizing (term?).

Good luck with that. Sucks!!

BTW, I really can't ever thumb flick my Sebenzas. They usually stop about 90% opened or once in awhile they'll just barely make it and barely lock up. It's a weird feeling. Oh well I don't think a thumb flick will hurt one so long as you haven't polished all of the washers and tang for further smoothness and then you aren't using heavy wrist action to slap that blade out really hard.

Just so you know (and knowledge is power), Chris jumped all over my ass and pretty much told me that I had been flicking "his knife" and that's why I had lockup issues. (phone conversation)

That sure ain't the right way to treat a good knife flicker...lol! Probably wasn't too funny at the time. :grumpy:

 

[Nathan L]

Thanks to all who answered my original question about the thickness of the lockbars. I did not intined this to become a discussion of which knife/ company was better, but this makes for interesting reading anyway. I still like both knives and will eventualy end up with both. But for now examining what i use my knife for i think im going to get the sebenza. Because when ever i go out in the woods i almost always carry a fixedblade and a folder. Therefore if i need to do any prying or any thing like that i dont need to depend on the folder to do it(i feel confident my Busse can handel it). I feel like the sebenza's thiner blade will cut the things that i normaly cut better

 

[RevDevil]

Thanks to all who answered my original question about the thickness of the lockbars. I did not intined this to become a discussion of which knife/ company was better, but this makes for interesting reading anyway. I still like both knives and will eventualy end up with both. But for now examining what i use my knife for i think im going to get the sebenza. Because when ever i go out in the woods i almost always carry a fixedblade and a folder. Therefore if i need to do any prying or any thing like that i dont need to depend on the folder to do it(i feel confident my Busse can handel it). I feel like the sebenza's thiner blade will cut the things that i normaly cut better

Nathan, everytime you strt a thread with x vs y, this is the end result. When digging for specs related information, it is always a better idea to be extra clear than extra vague. Glad it didn't go worse than it did.

 

[Bapple]

Just so you know (and knowledge is power), Chris jumped all over my ass and pretty much told me that I had been flicking "his knife" and that's why I had lockup issues. (phone conversation)

I read the quotes you posted, but the man himself seems to hate the "flick" with a passion.

Wow, so did you flick your Sebenza like he accused you of? If not, then that is pretty unprofessional for a company rep, let alone the main man to accuse you of something that is completely false. Interested to hear if you really did flick your knife like he suggests you did.

 

[neuron]

Wow, so did you flick your Sebenza like he accused you of? If not, then that is pretty unprofessional for a company rep, let alone the main man to accuse you of something that is completely false. Interested to hear if you really did flick your knife like he suggests you did.

Regardless of what happened in this particular case, I've heard of other folks having similar experiences with Chris. I admire the fact that the guy makes excellent knives and strives for perfection, but I think he (and his fanboys) are far too quick to claim user error/abuse and jump all over the person when that person has the temerity to say that one of the knives had a lockup issue or some other problem out of the box (or later developed it).

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

Wow, so did you flick your Sebenza like he accused you of? If not, then that is pretty unprofessional for a company rep, let alone the main man to accuse you of something that is completely false. Interested to hear if you really did flick your knife like he suggests you did.

Nope I don't flick my sebs. It has been flicked less than 10 times. It's irrelevant anyway because the problem I was telling him about was present the second my knife came out of the box.

He wasn't having any of that though. I must have done something to the knife for it to have problems, because all of his knives are perfect. That is literally what he was implying. Even after I told him I have babied my knife, he insisted that I MUST have flicked it.

 

[Popsickle]

lol, people send knives in o comapanies all he time.

Not really? Owners of Strider knives have mentioned the following.

So far we have 11-12 Sebenza's without problems vs 6 Striders where 1 has an issue.

Owner of 5 Striders where 2 of them are off getting fixed. Justified blade play to himself which I find odd.

I think the TC should just go with the knife he thinks looks best.

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

I'm really sorry to hear about that CTS. He mentioned the occasional lockbar being stiff was about it. I was paraphrasing quite honestly. He didn't say every knife left perfect but actually said that (lockbar being stiff) was the only issue that ever popped up rarely. I hope you get a new slab for that side or that it's corrected by carbidizing (term?).

Good luck with that. Sucks!!

BTW, I really can't ever thumb flick my Sebenzas. They usually stop about 90% opened or once in awhile they'll just barely make it and barely lock up. It's a weird feeling. Oh well I don't think a thumb flick will hurt one so long as you haven't polished all of the washers and tang for further smoothness and then you aren't using heavy wrist action to slap that blade out really hard.



That sure ain't the right way to treat a good knife flicker...lol! Probably wasn't too funny at the time. :grumpy:

No it wasn't funny at all. I am definitely a flicker, but I do NOT flick my sebenza. Even if I wanted to, the knife isn't suited for flicking. It doesn't seem to flick even if you try.

 

[Bapple]

Nope I don't flick my sebs. It has been flicked less than 10 times. It's irrelevant anyway because the problem I was telling him about was present the second my knife came out of the box.

He wasn't having any of that though. I must have done something to the knife for it to have problems, because all of his knives are perfect. That is literally what he was implying. Even after I told him I have babied my knife, he insisted that I MUST have flicked it.

Wow, not sure what to say really...he basically called you a liar right to your face. Doesn't fly to well with me, that phone conversation would not have gone very well with me at all, and his accusations doesn't reflect very well on the attitude of the owner of the company either.

He would come off much better for potential customers to just have them send the knife in rather than insist that they abused the knife in some sort of way. Very, very unprofessional imo and quite unfortunate

 

[JNewell]

And how many times has the guy who invented the product, owns company and runs it would spend that much time with you on the phone? That says TONS about things like commitment to quality and customer service. :thumbup:

Well, I talked with Chris Reeve on the phone for about an hour the other week, about what you say? My brand new sebenza that had an extremely sticky lock. So, no, not all of the sebenzas that leave the factory are perfect.

 

[JNewell]

You guys are total pansies. I intentionally fuel my vehicle with low octane gas just so I can listen to it knock when I step on it. Sheesh. No b@lls.

Here's one by Anne Reeve that I was able to find in 45 seconds of searching. I don't really feel like sifting through more posts to find more:



And here's the link to the Chris Reeve interview over at Woodsmonkey for those too lazy to google it themselves:

http://www.woodsmonkey.com/index.ph...nterview&catid=73:inteviewsprofiles&Itemid=85

Edit:

And with another minute or so of searching, here are two more quotes:

 

[JNewell]

If I felt that way, I'd sell the knife and move on. Ars longa, vita brevis. Or something like that.

Just so you know (and knowledge is power), Chris jumped all over my ass and pretty much told me that I had been flicking "his knife" and that's why I had lockup issues. (phone conversation)

I read the quotes you posted, but the man himself seems to hate the "flick" with a passion.

Wow, not sure what to say really...he basically called you a liar right to your face. Doesn't fly to well with me, that phone conversation would not have gone very well with me at all, and his accusations doesn't reflect very well on the attitude of the owner of the company either.

He would come off much better for potential customers to just have them send the knife in rather than insist that they abused the knife in some sort of way. Very, very unprofessional imo and quite unfortunate

Nope I don't flick my sebs. It has been flicked less than 10 times. It's irrelevant anyway because the problem I was telling him about was present the second my knife came out of the box.

He wasn't having any of that though. I must have done something to the knife for it to have problems, because all of his knives are perfect. That is literally what he was implying. Even after I told him I have babied my knife, he insisted that I MUST have flicked it.

Wow, so did you flick your Sebenza like he accused you of? If not, then that is pretty unprofessional for a company rep, let alone the main man to accuse you of something that is completely false. Interested to hear if you really did flick your knife like he suggests you did.

Nope I don't flick my sebs. It has been flicked less than 10 times. It's irrelevant anyway because the problem I was telling him about was present the second my knife came out of the box.

He wasn't having any of that though. I must have done something to the knife for it to have problems, because all of his knives are perfect. That is literally what he was implying. Even after I told him I have babied my knife, he insisted that I MUST have flicked it.

 

[Gator97]

And how many times has the guy who invented the product, owns company and runs it would spend that much time with you on the phone? That says TONS about things like commitment to quality and customer service. :thumbup:

Uhmm, can't tell you're serious or sarcastic... But I suspect it's the content of the conversation that really matters.

 

[JNewell]

I meant that completely seriously, but I posted that before I'd read to the end of the thread. I still mean it seriously.

Guess for some folks (and I don't mean you - unless you say so) I'm just a stupid fanboi...oh, well.

 

[Bapple]

And how many times has the guy who invented the product, owns company and runs it would spend that much time with you on the phone? That says TONS about things like commitment to quality and customer service.

Don't get me wrong, I have a Sebenza and have had it for quite some time, it is a great knife and it serves me very well. However, I agree that the owner of the company spending time on the phone with customer's is great, but by the sound of it, he is just accusing them of abusing there knife some how, without even seeing the knife. I am sorry, but that is really not how it works.

I am part owner of a company and I spend time on the phone with tons of my customers. Rest assured, when one calls with a problem, I do not accuse them of any wrong doing at all, on the contrary, no matter what the circumstances at all, even if I think they are completely wrong, I basically lick there ass, and do whatever it takes to make them happy. It is not worth pissing off a customer and perhaps losing there business.

Maybe he has enough business. I do think he needs to re-evaluate how he is handling some of these situations, doesn't come across very well. Take it for whatever it's worth, this is just my opinion.

 

[CrimsonTideShooter]

If I felt that way, I'd sell the knife and move on. Ars longa, vita brevis. Or something like that.

Why would I sell the knife? I love it.

 

[Nathan L]

guys if i was going to buy a sebenza, where would be a good place to get it? I see that Onestopknifeshop has them for 385 is that a good place?and what is the differince in s35m and s30v?
thanks

 

[neuron]

guys if i was going to buy a sebenza, where would be a good place to get it? I see that Onestopknifeshop has them for 385 is that a good place?and what is the differince in s35m and s30v?
thanks

Sebenzas are priced the same everywhere, so just get the knife wherever you find it in stock and from a place that you've had good experiences with. 1SKS is owned by Spark, the same fellow who owns this forum. I've only dealt with them once, but it was a very smooth experience. Any of the other dealers you find in the dealer's section are also excellent; from among the ones who stock CRKs, the ones I buy most frequently from are probably New Graham, BladeHQ, and GP Knives.

As for the difference between S35VN and S30V, they're very similar. In terms of properties of interest to the end user, S35VN was designed to have the same wear resistance as S30V while offering moderately improved toughness.

 

[Liquidm1980]

is there a place u could buy one and send it back for the other. i have touched or seen a strider in person but i can see how it would be hard to pick one via pictures. personally i went with a starbenza, i love look and feel of the handle. if i clipped the knife i carry i would get a duel thumbstud added and it would be my edc.