sub 3.5" blade for carry on campus

thejamppa said:
Gear, tf8s: You pull out knife in self defense situation and you can't kill that other person, you're dead most likely. Just know that. And even you survive and have successfully defended yourself. Brace for psychic backlash. Only carry weapon if you can make yourself absolutely clear that you will use that without no hesitation at all as you are taught to kill another human being aslong you understand, that's all what matter's. Its better to understand that now, than after you're nervous wreck from years of nightmares, guilt and ghost of past hounting you.

Carrying self defense knife = carrying knife to kill your opponent while protecting your life. Many who carry "self defense" knife do not understand this. And those who do not understand this and they say they carry self defense knife, I categorize them with people who flick knives in malls because its cool, because in both cases are related deep misunderstandment why that knife exists. Your self defense knives exists to end the life of aggressor. And this is what any good and competent knife instroctor tells you.

Just my humble opinion.
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I thought you decided that you weren't going to clutter the OP's thread with this. this thread isn't a philosophical debate; the OP is looking for a knife recommendation, and as far as I know no one is arguing with you that a knife can be a LETHAL weapon and when used in a self-defense situation it should be treated as such.
 
tf8s said:
I thought you decided that you weren't going to clutter the OP's thread with this. this thread isn't a philosophical debate, the OP is looking for a knife recommendation, and as far as I know no one is arguing with you that a knife is a LETHAL weapon.
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since door was opened, I decided to make absolutely sure that any person who carries a self defense knife understands what for and not for illusion or fake idea what TV and movies are so filled these days. And from what I though I read from you and Gears posting that carrying self defense knife is like carrying regular knife.

Now that is closed, a solid folder is good for defensive. A folder can be deployed faster than Izula. Now what you seek is not that much belly, don't believe what other's say, belly in tactical knife is pretty useless. it looks good and belly is just fine for slashing. Slashing cuts are not deadly (very shallow compeared to thrusts) and they have wide movements, giving a lot openings on your defense so you do not want to make much slashes.

For self defense knife I recomend something in the line of Kersahw Cyclone or mini cyclone. Spear point (or drop point is good alternative) is excellent thrusting and has strong spine, so you won't be breaking the tip off easily, even when hitting relatively hard material like wood.

Its also A/O for fast deployment (not that I think you have change to pull out that knife in real situation) and it can be turned for for manual flipper that is still plenty fast. Its extremely solidly build knife. Like a small tank and has very solid lock.

You can get cyclones now under $30 USD in EvilBay as they are discontinued products: Very good knife, made in USA and has life time Kershaw Warranty. Not as good as scrapyard dog's or RAT's warranty but good to keep you plenty happy.
 
thejamppa said:
Gear, tf8s: You pull out knife in self defense situation and you can't kill that other person, you're dead most likely. Just know that. And even you survive and have successfully defended yourself. Brace for psychic backlash. Only carry weapon if you can make yourself absolutely clear that you will use that without no hesitation at all as you are taught to kill another human being aslong you understand, that's all what matter's. Its better to understand that now, than after you're nervous wreck from years of nightmares, guilt and ghost of past hounting you.

Carrying self defense knife = carrying knife to kill your opponent while protecting your life. Many who carry "self defense" knife do not understand this. And those who do not understand this and they say they carry self defense knife, I categorize them with people who flick knives in malls because its cool, because in both cases are related deep misunderstandment why that knife exists. Your self defense knives exists to end the life of aggressor. And this is what any good and competent knife instroctor tells you.

Just my humble opinion.
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Sir, I do not only carry a knife I have a "tool box" remember that and I have made peace with my ghosts, good day. And also I subscribe to Michael Janich's theory on shutting down the Bio-Mechanical system by cutting their muscles to render them inoperable if I absolutely must I will with no hesitation its my life or a loved ones over anyone else no matter what. And I prefer a Wharncliffe style blade it can still stab very deep but slash extremly well.
 
While I know that you requested a fixed blade, I have found that my Benchmade Mini Barrage fits all my needs and is much easier to carry than a fixed blade.
 
Carrying a knife for self defense is false security. It's best to avoid any hand-to-hand situation if at all possible. Murphy's Law: If something can go wrong, it will.

I recommended the Vantage-Pro as a general purpose utility knife. It's great for every day use. There should be one in every tool box, tackle box, or camping kit.

http://www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=product.detail&ProductID=3653


P.S. If you want something for defense, carry pepper spray.
 
You're not gonna find much need for a knife on campus..

Best things for campus "defense" are a box of condoms and a calculus tutor :)

You'll find it's the standard EDC
 
retzius said:
You're not gonna find much need for a knife on campus..

Best things for campus "defense" are a box of condoms and a calculus tutor :)

You'll find it's the standard EDC
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for a lot of people, if you plan to carry something that could possibly be used for SD, you'd want to carry it everywhere. I assumed the OP just wanted something that he could take everywhere with him, and he might be living on campus, so it's possibly he wants to abide by their rules with regard to storing the knife.
 
Mini-Cyclone is my forrest EDC, works well in food preppring too, cutting wood and general cutting. Under 3,5" blade with 5,3oz weight. Its good and sturdy knife from excellent maker.

Kersahw Zing is good too. Extremely strong spine and very fast flipper (nearly as fast than A/O's). Good blade shape, good slicer ( which makes it good food prepping knife too ) and good tip geometry. 3" blade and excells in general cutting and food prepping. Orange handles also makes it look less dangerous for sheeple people.
 
wolfdog said:
Carrying a knife for self defense is false security. It's best to avoid any hand-to-hand situation if at all possible. Murphy's Law: If something can go wrong, it will.

I recommended the Vantage-Pro as a general purpose utility knife. It's great for every day use. There should be one in every tool box, tackle box, or camping kit.

http://www.buckknives.com/index.cfm?event=product.detail&ProductID=3653


P.S. If you want something for defense, carry pepper spray.
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I sense this thread being moved to Prac Tac and on that note I will take my leave and apologize to everyone and the OP for taking this off track, Good Day Sir's and Ma'am's
 
i think a griptilian would work great. a little thicker though, so it might be harder to conceal. the izula is another good option, you can carry it just about anywhere (neck, waistband, pocket, belt, shoe, etc)
 
tf8s said:
for a lot of people, if you plan to carry something that could possibly be used for SD, you'd want to carry it everywhere. I assumed the OP just wanted something that he could take everywhere with him, and he might be living on campus, so it's possibly he wants to abide by their rules with regard to storing the knife.
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I was just joking. Bad attempt at humor I guess..

My humblest apologies, I did not realize how serious this topic is. I guess we're all very hard core in thr new year. ;)
 
Gear said:
I sense this thread being moved to Prac Tac and on that note I will take my leave and apologize to everyone and the OP for taking this off track, Good Day Sir's and Ma'am's
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I think it's going to overshoot Prac/Tac and land in W&C.
 
If you realistically expect to require a knife for SD on a college campus, then perhaps it's time to look for a different college.
Otherwise, a kind of SAK is perfectly useful and polyvalent and you won't scare that girl you want to impress...

You're not gonna find much need for a knife on campus..

Best things for campus "defense" are a box of condoms and a calculus tutor
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Indeed better carry something against STDs than for SD :)
 
IMO the criminals don't follow the laws and we do and unfortunately that is why you hear of a college shooting or mall shooting ending up with 10+ innocent people dead. I am however lucky enough to be in a fairly liberal state in regards to firearms. Again back the the knife situation, I would almost never allow myself to end up in a situation of a fight with a knife. A person has to get way to close for comfort with the aggressor. I would lean more towards something like pepper spray i.e. "heat" on a keychain. It puts out a fairly diffuse cone of spray that an individual would have to walk to in order to get to you. Also something like a collapsable baton possibly. Again the most important thing you can ever have on your person is your brain for starters and a very calm demeanor is a close second which for most people is hard to come by in situations where tac/prac is needed.
 
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Back in my day when you left for college you worried about the 4 Bs: boobs, beer, bros, and books.

Nowadays the kids ponder self defense and the consequences of concealed carry. I guess that's what happens when you grow up watching twilight and getting your junk crushed in skinny jeans ;)

get a SAK if you really need one
 
i currently go to school and always carry something with me... i usually have either a spyderco sage, delica, or native SE or a CRK sm sebenza or um or a sog trident. I also have a rat rc4 for ROTC field stuff
 
retzius said:
Back in my day when you left for college you worried about the 4 Bs: boobs, beer, bros, and books.

Nowadays the kids ponder self defense and the consequences of concealed carry. I guess that's what happens when you grow up watching twilight and getting your junk crushed in skinny jeans ;)

get a SAK if you really need one
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Well I don't wear skinny jeans,its emo and I am not, and I dislike twilight, any story about a 100 year old man and a 17 year old girl is a story of pedophilia in my book.

I have never subscribed to be what you would call your average teenager, I think I might be a little to grown up for my age afterall I am only in my late teens.

I want to remain alive until it is my time to go, I want to pass peacefully in my easy chair at a ripe old age, not room temperature in some gutter in a pool of my own blood.

That is why I am so focused on self preservation, apparantly all of us "defensive minded" people should know better than to post about defensive subjects in general knife discussion where all walks of life come, not just armed citizens.

We all have one thing in common we like knives but that is where the line ends from there it is all different mindsets, how we use our knives (and other items) and pretty much anything else.

So I guess what I'm saying is if you don't like the fact that people are defensivelly inclined than kindly keep that to yourself.


We truely don't care what anyone has to say "all you need is a SAK" that is your philosophy, not ours when we ask for ideas on a defensive knife don't come barging in saying "oh all you need is a SAK or a traditional knife" we didn't ask for that, we want ideas for what we asked for not to be told oh you don't need to carry for defensive purposes blah blah blah.

If that is all you have to say than kindly move along and keep your comments toward threads relating to a subject you agree on. :grumpy:
 
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