Superior Drop-Forged

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Most knives are machined:

That is, they take a flat sheet of metal, stamp a blank form out of it, then grind it into final shape. Somewhere along the line, the knife is tempered and finally, "Finished" by polishing it. "Machining," is fine, as long as you are making letter openers, or prizes to be handed out at a carnival sideshow. It's time, however, to put aside the plebeian drivel and talk about real steel.

Lowest of all, are machined "Folders," knives so flimsy, that most of them could be destroyed by laying them over a curb and stomping on them. We won't mention folders here, because we're talking about knives with at least the rudimentary appearance of quality.

Being a connoisseur of machined knives is like being a connoisseur of McDonalds. Some items taste better than others, but you have to remember you're eating produced slop. One cannot compare a Big Mac with a tender T-bone. Unfortunately, if one only eats McDonald food, then one becomes convinced they are eating well...
Unfortunate, but such is the fare of the masses. At least they are capable of understanding it.

Now, lets talk about Drop-Forged knives:

There are two types of drop forging: Open Mold, and Closed Mold. Open mold is usually used for art projects, as the mold is cheaper to produce. Much steel is lost, however (Slag) and the molds don't stand up over time.
Closed mold is expensive at first, but as more knives are produced, the cheaper they become. Less steel is lost to slag and the molds hold up to multiple castings.

As a result, it takes an established company's resources to set up a closed forge. It's expensive to set-up.

1) Drop forged knives are %20+ stronger than machined knives. (That's why hard-use tools are drop-forged)
2) Design elements, such as edges are forged in, not just ground down.

There aren't many drop-forged knives available and they are relatively expensive. That, however, has been the story of quality throughout history.

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As you might have read, drop-forging aligns the grain of the steel. It's better in every way. You'll notice I haven't mentioned stainless steel.. for good reason.
 
Well I have to give you credit for at least attempting to push everyone's buttons. Pretty sure you'll at least get some fun out of it.
 
You lost me at "We won't mention folders here, because we're talking about knives with at least the rudimentary appearance of quality."

Was there a point to this post? I think I missed it.

So if a knife maker, take say, Brad Southard, makes a folding knife by machining the blade from a sheet of steel he purchased from Crucible or someone, that knife is garbage for at least two reasons (that it folds, and that it's not forged)?

lolwut?
 
This is a troll thread...right? I mean, surely.
 
Well, it's either trolling or ignorance. From OP's post history, I do not see a lot of trolling. Leaves little room for interpretation.
 
I was trying for amusement and fun, not trolling. I just finished a Sherlock Holmes story and was having fun pretending to be superior English Nobility. I thought it would be taken as comedy, but I forgot who I was dealing with.

I have enough of every knife to fill a canyon. I especially love each one. Drop forged is technically the strongest. Say what you will...

Still, it's amusing to hear "folders" being compared to real knives. Unless they have cool red plastic grips with a Bad Ass dragon engraved on it.
 
I was trying for amusement and fun, not trolling. I just finished a Sherlock Holmes story and was having fun pretending to be superior English Nobility. I thought it would be taken as comedy, but I forgot who I was dealing with.

I have enough of every knife to fill a canyon. I especially love each one. Drop forged is technically the strongest. Say what you will...

Still, it's amusing to hear "folders" being compared to real knives. Unless they have cool red plastic grips with a Bad Ass dragon engraved on it.

Just like it's amusing to hear opinions that are a break from reality. Newsflash: folders are "real knives".
 
What about surgical steel? It's supposed to outperform any run of the mill drop forged
 
I was trying for amusement and fun, not trolling.

Yeah...it was hilarious when you said that people who have a different opinion than you are "plebian" and incapable of having the understanding needed to agree with you.

You also pointed out that

"As a result, it takes an established company's resources to set up a closed forge. It's expensive to set-up."

and showed several CS "Drop Forged" knives. Why don't you tell us about the closed forge in Cold Steel' plant?
 
I have an axe and hatchets, so I don't use my knives for anything where being forged would make a difference. Someone would have to be stupid to find out that this boker drop forged hunter is stronger, how much abuse does a medium sized hunting knife take ?

If machined knives suck so much then you better sell every single non forged knife you have, because they're so flimsy and are not real knives.
 
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