Superior Drop-Forged

FortyTwoBlades said:
Actually, metal injection molded parts are best for those applications because of the expansive forces they're dealing with. They're actually stronger than forged parts in such applications because of their lack of grain flow. Grain flow functions a lot like grain in a piece of wood--it's strongest at resisting forces across the grain, but weaker at resisting forces along it. In expansive situations this grain flow actually introduces weakness to the part. Knives are a bit different, though, and their form and applications does mean that they technically see benefit from grain flow, but this is still accomplished in rolling at the mill anyhow. And, indeed, the practical difference in something like a knife, which is dealing with the forces able to be generated by a human body, is imperceptible. It's different when dealing with mechanical components experiencing high strain. The single largest advantage of forging vs. machining is economy of material and the ability to achieve great three-dimensional complexity of form without spending a stupid amount of machine hours carving away at an obscenely large billet.
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I got into an argument about all this awhile back and that's what it came down to and what I learned from it all.

If you're dealing with super clean steels already rolled from the mill or dealer or whatever it doesn't matter that much. That's kind of the whole point of these powdered steels. Forging can mess up an otherwise great thing. If you're talking about crap or cast steels or need to create fairly intricate shapes then forging is likely better. With modern cutlery steels in modern cutlery shapes it is probably not a lot better and could easily make things a lot worse depending on who's doing the forging.

If you're making a knife out of steel where there's an issue with grain direction and flow it probably wouldn't be as good of a knife as something made out of something like 3V anyway. We're not talking about crazy 3D shapes used for industrial applications here. We're talking about mostly straight pieces of steel.

People have made good stuff out of 3V, etc, forged to shape but whether it's BETTER than straight stock removal, well, I don't think that's been definitively answered and if it was I kind of assume that it would come down to who did work and who heat treated the blades.
 
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None of this matters you know. The secret to strong steel is the coating. Why do you think Busse knives are so strong? The paint jobs.
 
Not sure I've read a post with more drivel in one place.




Bravo...


Another on ignore.
 
CapitalizedLiving said:
None of this matters you know. The secret to strong steel is the coating. Why do you think Busse knives are so strong? The paint jobs.
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Dang it! The last two Busses I bought were satin finish. They aren't even drop forged. I'm surprised they haven't already broken.
 
Well of course your plebeian satin Busse's can't possibly cut anything at all. INFI is the name of the coating, not the steel. Everyone who is anyone already knows this!
 
CapitalizedLiving said:
Well of course your plebeian satin Busse's can't possibly cut anything at all. INFI is the name of the coating, not the steel. Everyone who is anyone already knows this!
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Revolverrodger said:
Send them to me for proper disposal
I only charge 100$ plus shipping of course
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Since they're useless and I just spent my last $100 on gummy bears and chili cheese fritos, it appears that I'll have no choice but to use them as welding iron. At least I know now that the NMSFNO won't fail me since it's coated. You live and learn I guess.
 
Uath said:
I was trying for amusement and fun, not trolling. I just finished a Sherlock Holmes story and was having fun pretending to be superior English Nobility. I thought it would be taken as comedy, but I forgot who I was dealing with.
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I think the problem is that your accent wasn't quite right...



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A.G. Russell's Sting was dropped forged. Very cool. I wish I still had mine.
Good thread.
rolf
 
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