Superior Drop-Forged

Machining out of quality stock material, doesn't make for an inferior product.
The junk stuff is usually stamped out with a punch press.

Spend a little more time expanding your knowledge of manufacturing processes.
 
I am having a hard time understanding why there's so much hostility. If you don't agree with the OP and you have something valuable to add, then please add it. If you're disagreeing based on your own opinion then you're no better or worse than he is.

Why not just be decent to the guy and discuss the pros and cons of the statement instead of acting like a bunch of petty, catty people?
 
bodog said:
I am having a hard time understanding why there's so much hostility. If you don't agree with the OP and you have something valuable to add, then please add it. If you're disagreeing based on your own opinion then you're no better or worse than he is.

Why not just be decent to the guy and discuss the pros and cons of the statement instead of acting like a bunch of petty, catty people?
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Reads petty, catty OP.

Chastizes people who respond.

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bodog said:
I am having a hard time understanding why there's so much hostility. If you don't agree with the OP and you have something valuable to add, then please add it. If you're disagreeing based on your own opinion then you're no better or worse than he is.

Why not just be decent to the guy and discuss the pros and cons of the statement instead of acting like a bunch of petty, catty people?
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I took him as seriously as he took his readers.

And no, it is not equivalent to dismiss someone who asserts things that aren't commonly accepted in a condescending tone with no evidence.
 
I thought the sheets of steel from companies like Crucible were in a way "Forged" when theybwere produced negating the arguement. From what I have read most people say the idea that forged (drop or otherwise) items are stronger is largely a myth.

I also thought the myth applied to hammer forged items not drop forged items, which are basicaally hammered into a dye I believe.
 
bodog said:
I am having a hard time understanding why there's so much hostility. If you don't agree with the OP and you have something valuable to add, then please add it. If you're disagreeing based on your own opinion then you're no better or worse than he is.

Why not just be decent to the guy and discuss the pros and cons of the statement instead of acting like a bunch of petty, catty people?
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This is now the second time you've attempted to chastise the membership of this board. Stay in your lane. Thanks.
 
Dangerously said:
I took him as seriously as he took his readers.

And no, it is not equivalent to dismiss someone who asserts things that aren't commonly accepted in a condescending tone with no evidence.
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Exactly.
Sometimes a post will get a blunt and straightforward response to incorrect assumptions. No ill will, or hurt feelings intended here.
Just throwing in some real facts.
 
Drop forging will re-align the electrons in the steel causing a catabatic response in the alloy.
This explains the 20% increase in pure superiority over poor quality machined steels like cpm 3v
It's science after all
 
Uath said:
Most knives are machined:
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I dare say that ALL knives are machined, because you cannot forge a piece of steel to the finished blade shape so it has to be completed by machining. You start with a sheet of flat stock, it is essentially "forged" by the rolling process.


Uath said:
As you might have read, drop-forging aligns the grain of the steel.
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I've read this for a long time and I believe it, but I've also read a lot of people saying it doesn't matter. I'm still not sure how to correlate this contradiction. But I still think if you are talking internal combustion engine parts or firearm parts, forged is better. Maybe if you forge a complex shape vs. casting it, there is a difference. But if you forge a knife vs. grinding it out of a sheet of flat stock, there is less difference.
 
bdmicarta said:
I dare say that ALL knives are machined, because you cannot forge a piece of steel to the finished blade shape so it has to be completed by machining. You start with a sheet of flat stock, it is essentially "forged" by the rolling process.

I've read this for a long time and I believe it, but I've also read a lot of people saying it doesn't matter. I'm still not sure how to correlate this contradiction. But I still think if you are talking internal combustion engine parts or firearm parts, forged is better. Maybe if you forge a complex shape vs. casting it, there is a difference. But if you forge a knife vs. grinding it out of a sheet of flat stock, there is less difference.
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Actually, metal injection molded parts are best for those applications because of the expansive forces they're dealing with. They're actually stronger than forged parts in such applications because of their lack of grain flow. Grain flow functions a lot like grain in a piece of wood--it's strongest at resisting forces across the grain, but weaker at resisting forces along it. In expansive situations this grain flow actually introduces weakness to the part. Knives are a bit different, though, and their form and applications does mean that they technically see benefit from grain flow, but this is still accomplished in rolling at the mill anyhow. And, indeed, the practical difference in something like a knife, which is dealing with the forces able to be generated by a human body, is imperceptible. It's different when dealing with mechanical components experiencing high strain. The single largest advantage of forging vs. machining is economy of material and the ability to achieve great three-dimensional complexity of form without spending a stupid amount of machine hours carving away at an obscenely large billet.
 
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