Suprised at what they are carrying

My oldest bike is a Schwinn racing bike with what you would call friction shifters. You have to get used to it. My other bike (newer) has indexed shifters. My Schwinn needs attention but it essentially looks almost new. Adding indexed shifters to it might be a good idea but I have no idea of the cost or the amount of effort required.
New rear derailleur and compatible indexed shifters (SRAM won't index with Shimano (or Campy) and the other way around, unless you spend extra for the shifters designed to work with their competitor's rear derailleur. Different cable pulls/ratios.) is all you need to upgrade. The rear freewheel or cassette don't care what shifter/derailleur combination is used. The gaps/space between gogs is standardized. The front derailleur works either friction or indexed, so no need to change it, unless it's worn out and/or you want to "upgrade" it.

Much as I like the cover choices of the Ocoee River (large) sunfish, I'm still going to pass. I can't afford any "wall hangers".
I used my Smooth Tobacco Bone Rough Rider sunfish to carve/whittle a lock mortise in a piece of seasoned oak for a missing bit of cabinetry in one of my trucks. Didn't even need to sharpen it afterwards, and the blades were still centered, and tight with no dreaded wiggle wobblies. :)

(Ohhhhh, nice! Staffette just brought me a fresh baked still warm (and not rock hard) PB cookie. :D )
 
What's the difference between Rough Ryder knives and Frost knives?
I was under the assumption they were owned by the same company and probably produced on the same line.
I'm not sure it's a fact but from my understanding rough rider and frost steel warriors are 2 different brands manufactured in the same facility.
 
Guys I totally feel you on the hunting and fishing. I started losing my vision in 2018 due to a staph infection, then in 2019 botched laser surgery took most of what I had left. My last buck was a very nice 8 point taken on a handicap hunt. I can't describe the embarrassment of having someone help me aim! I guess my hunting days are over because I'm to scared of not seeing/identifying what the heck I'd be shooting at!! As for fishing I'm lucky I have a wife who takes me to open areas! Lol!! She actually got me a zebco 33, but I'm so used to a baitcaater I haven't switched yet.
 
My oldest bike is a Schwinn racing bike with what you would call friction shifters. You have to get used to it. My other bike (newer) has indexed shifters. My Schwinn needs attention but it essentially looks almost new. Adding indexed shifters to it might be a good idea but I have no idea of the cost or the amount of effort required.

I think we know the ownership of SMKW (Kevin Pipes' son pretty much runs it now) and Frost Cutlery pretty well. I don't know how active Jim Frost is in the business anymore. He is getting pretty old. What we don't know is what Chinese companies actually manufacture the slip joints. I recall visiting SMKW when they were in their old building which wasn't very impressive. Looked almost like a sheet metal barn. I wasn't really "into" knives at that point in my life and visiting that place was a low priority. I probably owned four knives total. It is actually really amazing to see the development between Sevierville and Pigeon Forge as compared to the way it was in the 70's.
Lol I remember pigeon forge in the 80s, it was all ELVIS! We went to Cherokee NC a few weeks ago and I swear it has hardly changed!! But if anyone collects stag, that's definitely the place to go!! Also there's a antique store in saunook village that has some serious knives!!
 
For me the Schrade and Camillus catalogues of the late 90’s are always interesting. You see them struggle to change their offerings and appeal to the new knife tastes, and they generally failed. Not too many of those were classic patterns that have survived from those attempts.

Then there was the period where modern folders reigned supreme - 2000s to 2015 or so. There was no doubt which was best. And of course the big American cutlery companies died.

But I am optimistic. I think that has changed and the bad period is behind us. In the period 2000-2015 consumerism was at its rampant worst. Cellphones, DVD players, Bluray players, ipods, ipads, iphones, Moores law, all played a part. But that has changed a lot. Now there has been a shift and people are taking far more interest in where things are made, who made them etc. It’s certainly not all doom and gloom.
 
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I sure wish GEC would pump out a steady stream of affordable micarta 71s. Maybe have a steady stream of newbie employees producing these as part of their training. It'd be good, hands-on training, it'd help spread the gospel about good carbon-steel pocketknives ..... AND guys like us could easily buy one without having to spend hours online trying to track down one that's not wildly over-priced.

I don’t mind the way GEC produces knives — it keeps things interesting :D — but I completely agree, it would be great if they did one or two basic/standard patterns like the #71 on a more regular basis. :thumbsup:
 
That case is hot!! What type of scales are those??

My experience with GEC is very limited. I've never owned one and only handled a few.
Thanks! That's sycamore on the sowbelly, an SFO from a Case dealer in the Hills of Missouri.
 
Gec 43 orange bone trapper is my current favourite edc. They really knocked the 43 pattern out of the park imho. Perfect size, nice soft pull with a very positive *click* at the half and open positions. Slicey slicey blade grind. Very delicious knife.
 
I finally got a bear & son. I got the large trapper with the red stag bone handles and high polished carbon blades. Fit and finish is immaculate. Perfect walk & talk, hair popping sharp out of the box!! I'm definitely seeing the reason for the uproar over these! The bone scales on mine look more like "honey bone" instead of red stag bone to me but are absolutely gorgeous. I have read alot of negative reviews on bear & son quality but I have absolutely no complaints about this knife. I didn't pick through their selection because I wanted to just see what I would get. For just under $30, I would put this against any major brand trapper. I think I'll maybe get a few more. Made in the US, carbon blades, and bone handles? What more can you ask for? The case trapper in amber bone with CV blades was over double what I paid, and the blades seemed thinner. Also one pin was sticking up and had a edge to it that could possibly cut your palm if you have soft hands. Overall I'm genuinely excited about this knife!
 
I'm in NC and today was in my local hardware store and perused their old Case display. At one time there were only Case knives in this display. The headers were all removed, and at the top were a smattering of Steel Warrior knives, the middle rows had a few Case knives, trappers peanuts and a sodbuster, and oddly, the bottom had some Buck knives displayed, of note, a 119, a 110, a newer fixed blade offering of off shore production, and a few odd ball modern knives. I get the feeling that they don't sell a whole lot of knives and they mixed the display up a bit to try and offer a little bit of variety.
 
I'm in NC and today was in my local hardware store and perused their old Case display. At one time there were only Case knives in this display. The headers were all removed, and at the top were a smattering of Steel Warrior knives, the middle rows had a few Case knives, trappers peanuts and a sodbuster, and oddly, the bottom had some Buck knives displayed, of note, a 119, a 110, a newer fixed blade offering of off shore production, and a few odd ball modern knives. I get the feeling that they don't sell a whole lot of knives and they mixed the display up a bit to try and offer a little bit of variety.


I'm seeing the same thing here in upstate sc. Most of the display cases have either sodbuster or amber bone case knives, but the majority is steel warriors. Where I got my bear & son trapper, they had their own case for them while the case knives were in the same display as first steel warriors. They also had a rotating case on the counter selling "sarge" knives. The box said they were from Greer sc, but I'm 15 mins from there and there are no Cutlery factories there. I suspect china made. I was able to stop at a bait shop/hotdog place where you used to be able to get used knives the owner would trade for. He said he doesn't carry knives anymore because nobody was buying them. He tried carrying rough rider for about a year and never sold one. Same thing with hats.
 
I'm seeing the same thing here in upstate sc. Most of the display cases have either sodbuster or amber bone case knives, but the majority is steel warriors. Where I got my bear & son trapper, they had their own case for them while the case knives were in the same display as first steel warriors. They also had a rotating case on the counter selling "sarge" knives. The box said they were from Greer sc, but I'm 15 mins from there and there are no Cutlery factories there. I suspect china made. I was able to stop at a bait shop/hotdog place where you used to be able to get used knives the owner would trade for. He said he doesn't carry knives anymore because nobody was buying them. He tried carrying rough rider for about a year and never sold one. Same thing with hats.
I suspect the majority of purchases nowadays is on line...
 
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