Survival magazine?

I saved all of my ASG magazines and read thru them from time to time + I like The Backwoodsman & Wilderness Way .....I would be up for a new Survival type mag as well !
 
Wilderness Way and Backwoodsman are my favorites. ASG was a great mag, I wish it was still around. I have a really big stack of them hiding somewhere though.
 
RescueRiley sending you an email. I think this would be a great mag for north America.

Edit here is my email mindwip at yahoo dot com
 
I'd certainly be interested in some kind of online setup, the emailed PDF arrangement sounds neat. Wonder what costs would be associated with the process?
 
mindwip said:
RescueRiley sending you an email. I think this would be a great mag for north America.

Edit here is my email mindwip at yahoo dot com
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Could we include a few more continents! (ie. OZ) Who knows you all might be interested in how we do stuff down here (primarily the same!).

Costs would be TIME and if people contribute the Emailed PDF costs next to nothing. I've got design software to do the job.

I'm in for a crack email julian at halseandlaws dot com dot au
 
Actually I subscribed to Bushcraft (UK) magazine for the first year and it was all right. It actually started very similarly to this. It originated on the BushcraftUK forum.

I think that Wilderness Way magazine can fill the void in the U.S. but I've had some reservations. I emailed the editor (Christopher Nyerges) with my criticisms and to his credit he published some of it. The resulting Doc bashing (expected) from the readership showed that most people that subscribe to this kind of magazine found that poetry, and recipes, etc. to be as, if not more, important as learning skills and definitely had a place in a magazine like Wilderness Way. NOT!

I subscribed to WW almost from the start (I think I started at Issue 3) and in the beginning it was very much what most of us, would like to see. The people involved with the nuts and bolts of the magazine, people like Christopher Nyerges, Dude McLean and Alan Halcon are very knowledgable and very much oriented the same way as us. Unfortunately, I believe they are hamstrung to a large degree by the publisher.

I offer this as a bit of insight as to what can happen to good intentions.

If you go ahead with this undertaking, best wishes to you.

Doc
 
go2ndAmend said:
First, let me say I know nothing about publishing a magazine. That said, I believe if one was introduced it would have to appeal to a fairly broad market, including the average hunter and fisherman. I think that most of the magazine could be devoted to survival, but then have a section each month on the following: Firearms, Knives, Tools (Shovels,saws,axes etc.). Anyone have any other suggestions?
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wunnerful thing about the interwebs. you don't have to appeal to a broad market as much anymore. a decent website, some honest reviews and a couple of the distributors pick you up, you can self publish fairly well nowdays.



Now, the problem *I* have with magazines... I have 2 problems. One is the politics and One True Wayism of nearly every magazine that invvolves anything even remotely to do with wilderness, knives, firearms, etc. It is, to my own thinking unbeliever skeptic ways, and inexcusable trend.

The second problem- the one that makes a real survival magazine unlikely, is the issue with ads, free gear, and reviews. Most all magazines for specialty markets such as ours have an overriding goal of getting us to BUY MORE STUFF.

I think this is incompatible with the minimalist nature of much of W&S training and thought. Like, totally, completely incompatible. I do NOT want to recommend a $350 knife and $500 gear package to a guy who has enough in his experience and intelligence that a couple weekend refresher courses and he's set with a $65 blade, $40 trip to a store, and half hour of material collecting. It's a waste, and it's fundamentally dishonest.

If you can avoid the commercialism of survival skills, then mebbe I'll buy it. :)
 
DOC-CANADA said:
Actually I subscribed to Bushcraft (UK) magazine for the first year and it was all right. It actually started very similarly to this. It originated on the BushcraftUK forum.

I think that Wilderness Way magazine can fill the void in the U.S. but I've had some reservations. I emailed the editor (Christopher Nyerges) with my criticisms and to his credit he published some of it. The resulting Doc bashing (expected) from the readership showed that most people that subscribe to this kind of magazine found that poetry, and recipes, etc. to be as, if not more, important as learning skills and definitely had a place in a magazine like Wilderness Way. NOT!

I subscribed to WW almost from the start (I think I started at Issue 3) and in the beginning it was very much what most of us, would like to see. The people involved with the nuts and bolts of the magazine, people like Christopher Nyerges, Dude McLean and Alan Halcon are very knowledgable and very much oriented the same way as us. Unfortunately, I believe they are hamstrung to a large degree by the publisher.

I offer this as a bit of insight as to what can happen to good intentions.

If you go ahead with this undertaking, best wishes to you.

Doc
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Doc- I am curious as to what kind of criticisms you have. I am not really much for poetry, but I also don't see it as any less or more appropriate than photos of stunning landscapes that make me sometimes pop my hiking bag on and leave the house for a wilds walk within 10 minutes.

recipes? I guess it depends on what you consider survival to be. We have a multifamily household and cooking is a big deal. We also have a Survivor around off and on and the recipe thing can be.... educational. Wanna know exactly how to make crow and margarine wrapper soup? Got a lady here who can tell you!

That being said, I would be upset if a magazine went around and *replaced* skills and information about W&S with ONLY recipes and art. But I'd be more pissed if it became an advertising vehicle.
 
Obviously I do't get very often But at the suggestion of SBF here I is.
There is always room for some one doing this specificly.
Swampratknives.com has a survival forum but it has died off over the last year or so But I learnt heaps there for the three or four years before.
I think part of the problem is the very broad scope that the term survival covers.
I'm not interested in burying Guns in my back yard or flint napping, ( not that I have problems with other people who do want to do that) Swamprat was good becuase there were a few oldtimers there and a few SAR fellas so the information was either current practise or reliable from long experiance.
I'll keep an eye on here and see what developes.
Carl
 
savagesicslayer, aceofblades you will get an email from me today--sent. So far we have about five guys on this project right now. I will email with what we have so far.

Are plan is to start by website/email pdf at first to appeal to a wide group. Our scope will cover more then Wilderness Way, we are not looking to compete with it, we will be on a different branch of the same tree. As far as making people buy $350 knives i dont think thats a problem as we are not looking for sponsors to kiss back ends to. And i still say a mora is the best buy haha
 
koyote said:
Doc- I am curious as to what kind of criticisms you have. I am not really much for poetry, but I also don't see it as any less or more appropriate than photos of stunning landscapes that make me sometimes pop my hiking bag on and leave the house for a wilds walk within 10 minutes.

recipes? I guess it depends on what you consider survival to be. We have a multifamily household and cooking is a big deal. We also have a Survivor around off and on and the recipe thing can be.... educational. Wanna know exactly how to make crow and margarine wrapper soup? Got a lady here who can tell you!

That being said, I would be upset if a magazine went around and *replaced* skills and information about W&S with ONLY recipes and art. But I'd be more pissed if it became an advertising vehicle.
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Hey koyote,

This wasn't a recent thing, it went back maybe 4 or 5 years. What I was upset about was that WW had changed from the primitive skills magazine, it originally was.

At the time, I, as a loyal reader/subscriber critiqued 3 consecutive issues and awarded each article with a relevant/not relevant designation from my perspective. Even though all 3 issues came out pretty good, they weren't as useful as the much earlier issues, with the original publisher, because of less instructional pieces. In other words, there was less how-to content and more feel good articles (poetry, recipes, etc.) You like poetry, fine. Same with recipes. They just don't belong in MY Wilderness Way magazine. Too touchy feely for me.

Just for the record, I never said that Wilderness Way wasn't a good magazine, it is, it's just that I felt it was going downhill and if I cared, I had to voice my opinion.

To this day, my Wilderness Way collection is complete and I intend to keep it that way.

And that's about all I have to say on the subject.

Doc
 
what would the name of the magazine be? their should be sections for different parts of the US and Canada if their are enough writers
 
jhrule said:
Is there a survival magazine out there that shows gear, tools, stories, advice,etc.? I know there is multiple hunting magazines but is there anything that specializes in survival?
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Unfortunatly American Survival Guide is no more , to bad too it was a great magazine , although in it's latter years it became less political/survivalist and more PC/camping.

I have a ton of back issues , great advice , informative reading , how-to's , ideas , political commentaries ( important during those dark Clintonista years).
 
i really enjoy reading WW and backwoodsman.... allthough at times, both magazines, just don't quite do it for me...
i enjoyed reading ASG, when it was around... i was even a long time SOF reader... thanks to my dad...

i would love to see a more bushcraft oriented magazine here in the US.. i have never read the bushcraftuk mag., but i hear it pretty cool...

i would be willing to help out as best as i can, if need be...:)
 
There is no name yet here is the basic layout so far, the numbers are just a guide.
This was put together by me and John we were planning on doing it more or less our selfs but with so many people still having interest thats great, perhaps we can get going very soon with all the help being offered on the online part. Let it be knowen we are not doing this for money!

If you see something you like and want to help with it say here or shoot me a email. I have set up a yahoo group to help with shareing photos and ideas and to have a emailing list. bushcrafttoday at yahoo d.o.t commm is the yahoo group and a new email for me either will reach me.

Review of lay out ideas-Nothing is set still open to ideas

Name-Still looking for ideas
"21st century Neanderthal." (primitive living in a modern world) Was thinking for a sort of icon logo to go with your name have a Neanderthal walking (like in those photes when they show evolution) but instead of a animal skim on his body he has on a modern hat, hatchet and knife hanging from his belt , with a small pack and rifle on his back, and some hiking shoes. Other name mentioned is Bushcraft Today. But i like ^ that one.

1. Main big articles every week

Techniques: 1-2 -per issue
Gear reviews 1-2 per issue
Stories: 1-2 per issue
Editorials 1-2 per issue
Law/bill Update, more of a list

2. Small fillers

First aid tip 1 per issue
Plant id 1 per issue
Comic Strip 1 or 2 per issue
Monthly Poll 1-2 per issue
Knot/braid 0-1 per issue


3. Viewer selected

Photo of the month
Viewer article of the month
Letter to the Editor type of thing

4. Kids section

Than a special Kids section pics of baby animals, article directed to them, or perhaps a article directed to the parents how to get there kids more involved?

5. Ads classifieds-?
 
I think those are all good ideas, and the layout is appropriate. It has a good chance of working the way you have it because none of the portions are too specific (meaning that you won't run out of ideas for each column). I think you'll/we'll be able to find a lot of good contributors here at BF, amongst other places.

Were you planning on mostly having some 'staff writers' or doing it more 'as they come'?
 
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