SURVIVOR! Try stick

Now that's a killer idea!!
You mean to tell me that you don't like to have a cobweb of paracord in your pack?!!

LOL! Invention is the child of necessity! I also needed to span 3 pieces of cord as well as to hold cordage from different directions. You can also do that with the pegs on the left and right side of the picture, at least that's the idea.
 
That's a smart idea. I might have to do something similar for the tangled wad of bankline that's sitting in the bottom of my backpack.
 
Went on a hike with my son and started yet another try stick with greenwood. I just finished it today a few weeks later. What a different medium, greenwood is a ton easier to use but delicate.









 
It is way easier to work with. I like having some flexibility when doing the fragile cuts.
 
This is the best try stick video I've seen so far. Also this guy is pretty active in the Becker forum and is a pretty cool dude.


[video=youtube_share;HndR07Vkm3s]http://youtu.be/HndR07Vkm3s[/video]
 
That's great stuff SN! Thanks for sharing!
His technique and everything he says is spot on.
 
I was hoping the vid would be beneficial here :thumbup:

Now I'm very interested in the Kochanski book. I still wouldn't mind a video that really spoon feeds me technique for some of the techniques, so I'll keep searching. I guess practicing myself could also help :rolleyes:
 
I have the book, just forgot who the author was, and it's on Amazon for about $17 delivered with a Prime membership. It's a fantastic book. I'd also suggest Survival Hacks by Creek Stewart as a fun read. And of course Dave Canterbury's Bushcraft 101.
 
I have the book, just forgot who the author was, and it's on Amazon for about $17 delivered with a Prime membership. It's a fantastic book. I'd also suggest Survival Hacks by Creek Stewart as a fun read. And of course Dave Canterbury's Bushcraft 101.

Great recommendations, thanks!
 
I love to whittle and carve while I am on con calls or listening to audio training. When I do this I always find that I default to one of several knives: new 5.1, 4.7, Fallkniven F1 and LT Wright GNS pretty much in that order. So I decided that I would make (yet) another try stick or two using all of these knives to see which knives cut the best, felt most comfortable in hand during hard use, to see if I liked smaller knives or bigger knives (something that I go back and forth about all the time) and to make any other observations



I took a 2.5' section of pine hand rail whittle it down to a circular shape, cut it in sections and make a try stick and a handle.



Over about 2 or 3 hours I whittled the square shape of the handrail to a circular shape mostly with my F1 and a little bit with my 3.5 just to see how it performed verses the F1. I cut several sections out with my GNS then carved a handle with my F1, GNS and 3.5. From there I took another section and made a short try stick with my 4.7, 5.1 and F1 (which I used the least on this try stick).







How did the knives do?

GSO 3.5 3v - I was really surprised that this was my least favorite knife to work with on this project. It cut and carved the worse of all the above mentioned knives. But in it's defense it's not really a heavy use knife and I was using it on hard treated wood. I should just use it for green wood and not try to use it like a heavier 5" knife. I'll see if I can get Guy to re-profile the blade. This should make it a better carver.

Fallkniven F1 vg10 - Over the past 3 years I keep coming back to this knife mostly because it's the best slicer and carving knife I own. VG10 holds an edge well and sharpens easily. The thermorun handle is small but pretty comfortable in the hand and doesn't produce hot spots. It did a great job on the hard wood and stayed sharp. It didn't have any micro folds after 3+ hours of cutting and carving. However the 90 degree spine TORE up my thumb and it became my second least favorite knife to use when I started making the hooks and 90 degree cuts in the try stick.

LT Wright GNS 01 - This is another non GSO knife that I regularly reach for. It's big and heavy enough to be able to hang with my 4.7 for heavy duty cutting. It also stayed very sharp and is the second best slicer I own; but like the F1 the 90 degree spine tore up my thumb. It did a better job making try stick cuts but fell short because it became uncomfortable when I used 2 hands. At one point my left thumb went numb due to the sharp spine.

GSO 4.7 CFV & new 5.1 3v- These knives did the lion's share of the hard cutting on the try stick and as always they did a fantastic job. They stayed sharp and didn't have any micro folds. Even though I prefer the rounded spines on the older GSO, these knives didn't damage or cause my left thumb to go numb.

My conclusions:

First and foremost Guy's new handles and the new scale treatment are second to none. The GNS handles comes close but the micarta is no where near as tacky. The F1's thermorun handles are also pretty comfortable and work well. But I wish they were longer and had more girth (yes I understand they were designed for use with gloves).

Cutting and carving - The F1 and GNS are definitely the 2 best carvers and slicers. These two knives did a great job rounding out the handrail. The 4.7 and 5.1 are the best cutters. They both carve & shave pretty well but were second fiddle to the F1 and GNS.

Small vs medium sized blades - I spoken to a number of guys who say they are moving away from their med and larger knives and gravitating to 3" to 4" knives. I thought I was going that direction too though I found that during this exercise I preferred using the 4.7 and 5.1 more than the 3.5 and F1. I also liked the bigger handles, weight and feel of the 2 larger GSOs. And finally I thought the 4.7 was my favorite knife but my 5.1 is still my favorite. This is about the 100th time I've flip flopped between the two but after about 8 try sticks made out of this hard treated lumber I find that I just prefer my new 5.1 to all my other knives.

Last thoughts - The only 2 knives that could have done all this work, rounding out the square shape of the handrails, cutting the hand rails into sections (see pic below) and making a try stick and handle were the 5.1 and the 4.7.



PLEASE forgive any spelling and grammatical errors!!!
 
Nice review!
It's good to hear that the 4.7 is up on your list for these kind of tasks.
 
Nice write up OBX. I am surprised. I would have thought the 3.5 would be perfect for the job since the shorter blade would make it easier in controlling the cut. I never thought the 5.1 or 4.7 would fair that well. Thanks for doing this comparison.
 
Nice review!
It's good to hear that the 4.7 is up on your list for these kind of tasks.
- TY! The 4.7 is a hard use heavy duty knife just like the old 5, 5.1s and the larger GSOs.

Nice write up OBX. I am surprised. I would have thought the 3.5 would be perfect for the job since the shorter blade would make it easier in controlling the cut. I never thought the 5.1 or 4.7 would fair that well. Thanks for doing this comparison.

TY! I think I unfairly criticized it for this particular job, kind of like using a 1/4 ton pickup for the job needing a 1 ton flatbed. The wood I used is very hard treated lumber and the 3.5 just doesn't have the size for it.
 
TY! I think I unfairly criticized it for this particular job, kind of like using a 1/4 ton pickup for the job needing a 1 ton flatbed. The wood I used is very hard treated lumber and the 3.5 just doesn't have the size for it.

I wouldn't consider what you have said to be criticisms but rather just an honest observation. As the saying goes, right tool for the job. In all honesty, I never would have thought the 5.1 would do a good job carving a try stick but after your sharing of your experience I would have to give mine a try. I did try carving a try stick using my LT Wright Genesis but being a newbie I wasn't sure what else to carve on the stick and screwed up after carving a few notches, pot hanger and hole. I should refer to the diagram on the starting post in this thread the next time I try.
 
Last edited:
Standard got me to make a try stick out of green wood and it was A LOT easier than the wood I use, treated lumber. Green wood also gave me a better sense of feel after using big hardwood. Anyway, I think you might be surprised how easy it is to make one of these with a 5.1 or even a 7/7. A lot of it has to do with the blade height, weight and balance of the knife. I appreciate the comments!!

 
Last edited:
Small vs medium sized blades - I spoken to a number of guys who say they are moving away from their med and larger knives and gravitating to 3" to 4" knives. I thought I was going that direction too though I found that during this exercise I preferred using the 4.7 and 5.1 more than the 3.5 and F1. I also liked the bigger handles, weight and feel of the 2 larger GSOs. And finally I thought the 4.7 was my favorite knife but my 5.1 is still my favorite. This is about the 100th time I've flip flopped between the two but after about 8 try sticks made out of this hard treated lumber I find that I just prefer my new 5.1 to all my other knives.

It's always a struggle with me as well. Not so long ago, a 6"-bladed knife was a big knife to me. Now it definitely feels mid-sized and even my sykco 711 feels small at times, like when I need a heavy chopper. I went for years and years using Buck 110s and their Vanguard model and nothing bigger. I still do love both of those knives, but I can certainly see where you needed the leverage and weight of the 4.7 and 5.1 to get this job done. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.
 
It's always a struggle with me as well. Not so long ago, a 6"-bladed knife was a big knife to me. Now it definitely feels mid-sized and even my sykco 711 feels small at times, like when I need a heavy chopper. I went for years and years using Buck 110s and their Vanguard model and nothing bigger. I still do love both of those knives, but I can certainly see where you needed the leverage and weight of the 4.7 and 5.1 to get this job done. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.

LOL!!! The folder is almost 30 years old (made in '88 a 50th anniversary knife) and the Vanguard is 20 years old.....
 
Lol Nice! I have skinned dozens and dozens of deer with a 110. I thought the 50th anniversary 110s came out just here recently. Or do you mean it was an anniversary present?
 
My bad it was the 1988 25th anniversary edition, I bought it new when I was in college.
 
Back
Top