Sweet-looking Knife: Kizlyar Sterkh

[nephildevil]

turning prisons into knife factories!? lol
thats insane!

 

[ausjulius]

ausjulius, are there pix supposed to be attached? They don't seem to be appearing?

you wish pictures........
hmm i will look,, must finde good exsamples..
ok,, tomorrow, ill put fotos of different types of russian knife, ok.
must look.......

 

[untamed]

you wish pictures........
hmm i will look,, must finde good exsamples..
ok,, tomorrow, ill put fotos of different types of russian knife, ok.
must look.......

Thanks in advance for making the effort. I think it'll go well with the in-depth info and descriptions you previously posted.

 

[ausjulius]

turning prisons into knife factories!? lol
thats insane!

turning prisons into clothign factories,,that is insane ..
knife factories,, and prisons. make ssence to me. who else knovws knives better.

anywya, they are realy not so common now in russia as the chepa chinese knives and cheap russian knives are being made, and the prison "artists" can just not compeat, also new post soviet government clamped down on prison factories and such,, .. already in the 80s they were mostly gone, anyway many were illegaly run by the guards,, workshops not factories,\

in most countries there is prison factories...
but soviet union seems unique is that they mad eknvies in there ,.. there was big prison wars in the 40s and 50s after ww2 between old theives and new theives.. or convicts who have served in prison batalions in ww2......
these new theives when back and co-operated wihtt he state, and so began thier work for the state.. working mkaing products,,, and toher tasks..
the old theives refused,, and so the two "plolitical" groups split,, the old thieves killed the new theives for joining the state and the new theives kille dhte old for killing them, the camp guards didnt do much to stop the fights.. some on a large scale.. also at this time there was big fights between the politicals and the "new thieves" who were put in with political prisoners by the state.. to basicaly ,, push them around. .. the politicals began forming their own groups,,, to defend them selves, .. these disputes led to several large scale revolts in the prisons.. ,, largest as int he 50s in kazakhstan,, ...

both politicals and new theives made knvies for the state.. and for the prison guards and for illegal sale......


this developed into a whole prison industry.. as inmates wanted alittle $ to buy things and this work brang them it..

slowly the old thieves lost and were replaces with a less structured criminal network,, relying more on profits and political infulence than ok criminal guile and the "theives" code........

still prison knvies are made today... not a big thing though......
ive not seen them ever for sale. i think inmates may make them for guards or such, a friends uncle was in prison for some time and became actulay very good at making small sheffeild style slipjoints.. .
which is odd as normaly they are more unconventional...........

 

[ausjulius]

sorry, i will post in next post all pics,, ok

 

[Jenni]

...i see no pics, but some i have too, so you havent to look on the question mark

The Scorpion

and the Bulat Knives

more pictures you can see in my gallery in messerforum.net .

Jenni

 

[nephildevil]

that's quite a history behind those prison made knives i see

 

[Will Power]

All I know is, the knives I have from Kizlyar are more than satisfying.

Look at that picture of the folder Jenni posted...that can't be ignored by anybody:thumbup:

I'm very interested in heated political arguments, but NOT in this thread

 

[ausjulius]

skorpion the first knfie kizlyar made, and in "kizlyar" or "dagestani" style

knives fomr kizlyar firm "bulat" they dont make bulat,, just the name :d..
see the "kizlyar" style,,...

steel in these is mostly imported 420 as owner of this frim.. also dosnt like the russian steel.
ther eis about 6 other firms in kizlyar with the same style.. and more in dagestan

"noks" knives, form skrilev.. :S some good some bad.. amny people have problems with quality of the folding knives,, as they make them always in differnet factories.. others just dont like skrilev...

my noks knife.. i dont like skrilev, but it is an ok knife.. ... it is "klop" or bedbug,, i think...

kizlyar groove.. comes from workers first making kindjals, which have many of these...

old sheath hand stiched, still used o the damascus knvies, it is now a popular syle in dagetan, also the stamped impressed sheathes, these are also commn on dagestani made knives.
http://www.messerforum.net/fotoalbum/data/853/HPIM2502_Medium_.JPG

 

[ausjulius]

guys form vorsma firm. at klinok.. with standard vorsma style picnic sets in the background

cheap vorsma damasc knives

vorsma stainless steel knvies.

 

[T-BAG]

Knives look strong like bull.

 

[pict]

"No task of gumption appeared to me “fastidiously” enough to assign the Russian. So I can state stop nix about gumption achievement, hand situation of etc."

Exactly. Apparently it gets very high marks for gumption achievement.

Actually it looks like a handy knife. You certainly could do alot worse. Mac

 

[untamed]

Sweet pics!!! Thanx for posting 'em! Always nice to see other people's designs that are just as functional looking as they are nice to look at.