Swiss Army Knife = Toast?

Yo Mama said:
Right, but this was the OPs point of the thread. :) Hey, it's the cool thing to do, I get it.
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It is the cool thing to do. It is good stewardship. Too bad more companies don't follow Victorinox's lead in that and in many other things.
 
Steel is eco-friendly period. By a lot of standards. For 1 it can be recycled near indefinitely.
 
Shotgun said:
How is keeping polutants to a bare minimum NOT the right thing to do?
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How do you know you are keeping polutants to a bare minimum? Recycling aluminum involves bleaching. This is more toxic than throwing away the can.

Just because it's the cool thing to do, remember we are always wrong in so many other ways. We are just now figuring out diets that were "good" for us are now not.

Some "green" energy (biomass as example) is dirtier than fossil fuels. Biofuels especially made from food crops contribute to more greenhouse gas than fossile fuels, and contributes to deforestation and starvation.

Again, I'm not against the concept of taking care of the planet, it's the way it's being implemented blindly by the masses.
 
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Yo Mama said:
How do you know you are keeping polutants to a bare minimum? Recycling aluminum involves bleaching. This is more toxic than throwing away the can.

Just because it's the cool thing to do, remember we are always wrong in so many other ways. We are just now figuring out diets that were "good" for us are now not.

Some "green" energy (biomass as example) is dirtier than fossil fuels. Biofuels especially made from food crops contribute to more greenhouse gas than fossile fuels, and contributes to deforestation and starvation.

Again, I'm not against the concept of taking care of the planet, it's the way it's being implemented blindly by the masses.
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Electricity from hydro-electric turbines as used by Victorinox is not dirtier than burning fossil fuels and contributes nothing to deforestation. Recycling material, using recycled materiel, heating homes and water with otherwise wasted heat energy, and using closed water systems is efficient effective and a great means of minimizing negative impact on resources..

Nay-say all you want, but you should also note you have yet to present any valid argument against Victorinox's innovations and stewardship or they way they've implemented their program. My hat is off to Victorinox. Too bad we don't see more following their lead.
 
leghog said:
Electricity from hydro-electric turbines as used by Victorinox is not dirtier than burning fossil fuels and contributes nothing to deforestation. Recycling material, using recycled materiel, heating homes and water with otherwise wasted heat energy, and using closed water systems is efficient effective and a great means of minimizing negative impact on resources..

Nay-say all you want, but you should also note you have yet to present any valid argument against Victorinox's innovations and stewardship or they way they've implemented their program. My hat is off to Victorinox. Too bad we don't see more following their lead.
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I'm not nay-saying, and I agree I love Victorinox's innovations and stewarship. It's just not the reason I buy their products.
 
OP…thanks for the vid. Double thumbs up to Victorinox…I'm glad I support them by owning several of their SAK's
 
Yo Mama said:
I'm not nay-saying, and I agree I love Victorinox's innovations and stewarship. It's just not the reason I buy their products.
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Me neither. I won't buy a product I don't want just because they're green. It's just nice to know. But, I'm not here to change your mind. You're entitled to your beliefs even if I don't agree with them.
 
Since the knife bug bit, I've bought, sold and traded any number of knives over the past few years. Sometimes because I just like the look of the knife and sometimes driven by some paranoia about being attacked in a way that a knife would be of service (possible but unlikely) or stranded in the wild somehow (even less likely).

But in the past few months, I've come to realize that just about the only knife I really need is a SAK of some kind. So now, even when I carry a pretty knife or a paranoid knife in my front pocket, I have a Cadet in my back pocket too. Though most often, it's just a multi-functional SAK in my front pocket (usually of the locking blade variety because ... you know...paranoia). Knowing that the company is also environmentally responsible just makes me feel better about them.
 
Thanks for the great video. This is a testament to the unique balance Victorinox has struck between reasonable pricing, outstanding quality, and functionality. I own a SAK pioneer and farmer. Both have superb fit and finish and out perform knives ten times their price. The farmer's saw is a thing of miracles. I recall a friend trying to hack down a thick, incredibly dry limb with a large fixed blade to no success. I sawed it down with the farmer's saw in less than two minutes.

We should celebrate knife companies who take steps to promote environmental stewardship, fiscal responsibility, and outstanding quality control. Great work Victorinox.

[Victorinox also makes amazing yet affordable kitchen knives and mechanical watches!]
 
VictorLouis said:
I'm no eco-weenie, but you have to give them credit for all of that. I think it was only possible due to being family-owned, otherwise, how would you have justified such expenses to shareholders over the years?
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What's wrong with being an "eco-weenie" and caring about the world you will pass down to your children?
 
In carbon footprint. Apparently the Victorinox manufacturing process with its many recycling procedures and environmentally friendly power sourcing leaves your swiss army knife with a carbon footprint equaling a slice of toast. Pretty epic if you ask me.
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Pretty epic to many of you it seems. To me, it seems like a lie. I just do not believe it. Not with the technology I saw them using on a video documentary. You guys ever worked on plastics extrusion? Heat treating and tempering steels? How about everything used making the lubes used around the place, plus on the knives? I could go on. A piece of toast? Not a chance! Do you guys just automatically believe things because they sound good, or admirable to you?
 
looks like this may turn into more of a whine and cheese thread... but I had not clue victorinox used these measures.
 
The Mastiff said:
Pretty epic to many of you it seems. To me, it seems like a lie. I just do not believe it. Not with the technology I saw them using on a video documentary. You guys ever worked on plastics extrusion? Heat treating and tempering steels? How about everything used making the lubes used around the place, plus on the knives? I could go on. A piece of toast? Not a chance! Do you guys just automatically believe things because they sound good, or admirable to you?
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I certainly don't. But I also don't believe things that just "sound like a lie" either. I'd be happy to look at any stats and/or studies you have available though.
 
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