Talk about a Busse Folder.

randucci said:

I have to disagree with the ideas that it would not be worth all the setup required to make folders (not picking on you PorcupineMtns66, as many others have said the same in the past also), simply because so many other companies like Strider, Reeve, Hinderer and others make lots of folders every year, which seems to work for them. So the argument that it would take too much or Jerry would have to make a folder that is nuke proof, just doesn't fly with me. Now that Jerry has said he is going to have three sizes of knives for sale all the time, the great demand for his fixed blades will be met for the most part and sales will level off. I think if Busse Combat wants to grow any more after that, they will need a new line like a folder. Only jerry really know why he doesn't make a folder, maybe he just doesn't want to.

I can't wait for my new one piece titanium folder from Lionsteel to arrive, I might not need another folder...........................;)


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Should'nt that Lion steel be any day now,just curious?
 
Someone call Websters because this entire discussion is an exercise in futility. It is never going to happen, in fact I think Jerry likes letting ya'll go own about it kinda like a cat plays with a mouse after it catches it. Hell this has been going on for years and he never steps in to settle it one way or the other, so instead of doing the right thing and either producing the mythical folder for his flock, or telling them he ain't ever gonna do one. He lets it go, so either he likes it or he doesn't give a flying rats a**.

Kinda jacked up from somebody that has the loyal following that he does and what gets me more is that the followers have never pieced this together for themselves. Either way jacked up don't you think?
 
Far as I know,I was too late , I guess the XM 18 and the umnum will have to do.:D

My understanding was they were in final assembly fit and finish etc..
Sorry for any derail folks:D
 
MikeC said:
Someone call Websters because this entire discussion is an exercise in futility. It is never going to happen, in fact I think Jerry likes letting ya'll go own about it kinda like a cat plays with a mouse after it catches it. Hell this has been going on for years and he never steps in to settle it one way or the other, so instead of doing the right thing and either producing the mythical folder for his flock, or telling them he ain't ever gonna do one. He lets it go, so either he likes it or he doesn't give a flying rats a**.

Kinda jacked up from somebody that has the loyal following that he does and what gets me more is that the followers have never pieced this together for themselves. Either way jacked up don't you think?
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Don't hate...you want it done quick or you want it done right? Jerry has stated that even from initial concept design to prototype takes years sometimes...thats how right its gotta be to be labeled a BC. Add in customer input, design testing, modifications, redesign, re-testing etc. and you have a long 2 weeks. Jerry listens to his customers and gives them what they want so just have patience my friend. :thumbup:
 
palegreenhorse said:
Don't hate...you want it done quick or you want it done right? Jerry has stated that even from initial concept design to prototype takes years sometimes...thats how right its gotta be to be labeled a BC. Add in customer input, design testing, modifications, redesign, re-testing etc. and you have a long 2 weeks. Jerry listens to his customers and gives them what they want so just have patience my friend. :thumbup:
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The above statement doesn't hold much value to me as knife makers make prototypes and then production pieces in months, it doesn't take eight years if you really want to do it. Heck Jerry makes new fixed blades all the time, granted, folders are more complex, but several custom and production makers come out with new models all the time. I just don't think Jerry is very interested in making a folder, but it would be better if like Mike C suggests, either he says he is going to make one or not.

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kdhope1 said:
Should'nt that Lion steel be any day now,just curious?
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Hopefully, it will be real interesting to see what it is like, they might just have one of the best folders ever! :eek:

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randucci said:
The above statement doesn't hold much value to me as knife makers make prototypes and then production pieces in months, it doesn't take eight years if you really want to do it. Heck Jerry makes new fixed blades all the time, granted, folders are more complex, but several custom and production makers come out with new models all the time. I just don't think Jerry is very interested in making a folder, but it would be better if like Mike C suggests, either he says he is going to make one or not.

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I would just like a "Yes we are making a folder so shut up" or a "No it's not our thing, so shut up" so I can just go and spend the money elsewhere.
 
Well there are plenty of comments from Jerry which make it quite clear he is'nt into doing a folder .... I recollect in one thread when asked about doing a folder he joked about doing one which worked like a venetion blind .... some "vision" of an AK which dropped down into a broad sword was my impression .... then in another thread awhile back where folder prototypes made a good while back and sold on the understanding they were not to be traded publicly until Jerry had secured a patent I believe .... or some other milestone such as deciding whether to put them into production .... were then coming up on e-bay .... Jerry made it pretty clear he was'nt happy with the folders being sold and generally was not intending to do a folder ....

I think you can therefore safely take the folder question as "not being planned in the immediate future" ...... and unlikely to happen .....
 
I believe it's clear there will be no INFI folder in the near-term, thus - effectively - consider it a no-go and move on for now. If it ever happens you can always get one later - surely he wouldn't bother to tool up and only make a few...

To think otherwise is a delusion at worst, and wishful thinking at best, IMO.

Me, I hope he sticks to fixed blades in INFI. He/it has no rival is this regard.

As for folders, Sebenzas and XM-18s have no rival. What else does one need?

Sure, other options are fine. But I say let each stick to what they're best at.
 
buy an active duty, cut-off the tang, build a framelock around it. there's your INFI folder :p

I've thought about doing that a lot....
 
MikeC said:
Someone call Websters because this entire discussion is an exercise in futility. It is never going to happen, in fact I think Jerry likes letting ya'll go own about it kinda like a cat plays with a mouse after it catches it. Hell this has been going on for years and he never steps in to settle it one way or the other, so instead of doing the right thing and either producing the mythical folder for his flock, or telling them he ain't ever gonna do one. He lets it go, so either he likes it or he doesn't give a flying rats a**.

Kinda jacked up from somebody that has the loyal following that he does and what gets me more is that the followers have never pieced this together for themselves. Either way jacked up don't you think?
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"He lets it go, so either he likes it or he doesn't give a flying rats a**."

simplifying a production schedule, the very limited marketing busse does, and jerry's opinions about user, buyers and forum member responses down to pure black and white makes it nearly impossible to get a realistic answer.

Jerry doesn't release any information about anything he's going to produce beyond the next run. So while you seem unhappy about him not releasing information about the folder it's the same pattern of release that's happened with every other blade busse combat's produced in the past 7 years. as far as I'm concerned anyone who gets angered by the lack of information on the folder doesn't "get it". It's not even a matter of whether jerry thinks it's "ready" for production from a design perspective - he won't say it's going to be released until it's going to be released.

Back in the day busse combat offered about 6 models on the website and the wait times were between 3-14 months. the models were static and didn't change, so the design's present were limited. then the new production schedule where something new was always coming, and most of the available pieces transitioned to the secondary market. ups and downs in prices, scarcity and rarity push the buyer to research the brand and the methods of getting ahold of a specific model deeper than ever before - because there are specific models to be had.

I'm perfectly happy with the way things are. It gets me new models every few months and an ever growing catalog of designs that I can get ahold of on the secondary market with a little effort and knowledge. There are plenty of folders out there that will suit my needs (the benchmade ruckus being my favorite (if I edc'd carried folders)) - I have no need for busse to release anything. Long live busse combat, jerry keep doing whatever you want to do as long as the blades keep being produced.
 
Agreed, LVC.

Jerry and crew owe us nothing. He clearly listens to his customers and factors that into what he decides to offer (see the BOSS Jack, BWM, and other examples).

He provides this venue where we offer our (generally unsolicited) opinions, and I'm thankful. I too have fell into an entitlement mode on occasion, and it was always wrong.
 
Personally I don't care either way. :eek:

I have some high end folders and am getting a Custom made by Andrew Demko. :D :thumbup:
 
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