Talk me out of buying a small Sebenza

Parasitic Psycho said:
Okay, we established that they can be compared, so that means they are not completely different, one is more simplistic than the other and doesn't really have anything to do with anything. The only thing left is that you claim it to be a step sideways, in which my previous opinion of the XM-18 being the superior one of the two comes back into effect. Am I missing something, or are you starting happy hour early?
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You made a claim about it being a step up. I refuted this claim by saying you're comparing apples and oranges. An overbuilt monster (XM-18) with a high tolerance slicer (Sebenza).

Now you're claiming I'm drunk? :rolleyes:

I have made my point, and am done entertaining you.
 
i dont believe the OP started a sebenza vs xm-18 thread!! the are both great knives , own both!! On the other hand +1 on the large sebenza, its the full experience as far CRK goes.. the small is great too and you will eventually end up with both but i say go big!!
 
I like my small Sebenza a lot and plan to keep it the rest of my life and pass it on to my son when I die.

As for losing it I have never lost a valuable item (watch, pen etc.) but I usually misplace cheaper stuff. If you are like me you will be careful and take good care of something you value.

I also consider my more expensive knives as works of art. I get the same pleasure looking, holding and using a well made knife as others might when they look at some $500 or more painting.
 
Love my Sebenzas [Large and Small 21s] and have not looked back since I have received them. Since I have purchased my Sebenzas many of my knives have seen far less carry if any.

BUT there are a few other knives I still carry. SECOND to the Sebenza my Spyderco SAGE 2.

The Sage2 is NOT a Sebenza, but it is amongst the best bang for your buck.

Get a Sebenza and put the Sage 2 on your list. ;]
 
Josh K said:
You made a claim about it being a step up. I refuted this claim by saying you're comparing apples and oranges. An overbuilt monster (XM-18) with a high tolerance slicer (Sebenza).

Now you're claiming I'm drunk? :rolleyes:

I have made my point, and am done entertaining you.
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Where did you ever get the idea that you were entertaining?
 
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my $0.02:

i would never buy any knife from a maker who's "top line" fixed blade only scored two knives at knifetests.com (the CRK Green Beret).
 
The small Seb 21 has been with me at work every single day since it arrived in the mail.
Freakin' great knife, indeed.
 
sambo. said:
my $0.02:

i would never buy any knife from a maker who's "top line" fixed blade only scored two knives at knifetests.com (the CRK Green Beret).
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I would never not buy a knife because I saw someone else break it with a hammer.
 
Josh K said:
I would never not buy a knife because I saw someone else break it with a hammer.
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while i don't dispute that the knifetests.com tests are extreme (heck, they admit as much themselves), i rekon they are a fairly objective measure of a knifemakers product.

there are a lot of far less expensive knives that significantly outperformed the CRK offering.

if i'm going to pay the sort of prices CRK charges, i damn well want a better knife than they apparantly produce.

i'd buy and use a Mora Clipper 860 over a CRK Green Beret and i'd EDC a Leatherman over a Sebenza.

actually, and this is just a personal preference, i'd EDC a quality pliers based multitool over any single blade folding knife.

in the interests of full disclosure: i EDC an 11 year old Leatherman Wave and have done for, well, 11 years.
 
To the O.P.
Get that Sebenza. You will always wonder. You have the itch. You will get it eventually.

Just give it some time after you get it. The first one I got I was very underwhelmed by. After all the praise, I sort of felt like "this is what all the fuss is about?"

The longer I carried it the more I would notice things I really liked about it.

I've always liked the Graphic ones the best though. To me they showcase the art side of the knife more.
 
i have a small 21, a large micarta classic and a large BG-42 regular and i like the large ones much better then the small, i find the small awkward to open and it does not feel that good in my hand. I also own a sage and and a zdp 189 caly and i carry the caly every day, where i live i need a 3" or under knife, i also own a 3" hinderer which i like much better then the small sebenza
 
sambo. said:
while i don't dispute that the knifetests.com tests are extreme (heck, they admit as much themselves), i rekon they are a fairly objective measure of a knifemakers product.

there are a lot of far less expensive knives that significantly outperformed the CRK offering.

if i'm going to pay the sort of prices CRK charges, i damn well want a better knife than they apparantly produce.

i'd buy and use a Mora Clipper 860 over a CRK Green Beret and i'd EDC a Leatherman over a Sebenza.

actually, and this is just a personal preference, i'd EDC a quality pliers based multitool over any single blade folding knife.

in the interests of full disclosure: i EDC an 11 year old Leatherman Wave and have done for, well, 11 years.
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Why do you hang on BladeForums? lol

Sounds like your happy with a Wal-Mart catalog. :rolleyes:

Had to poke some fun, but on a serious note the OP is interested in the Sebenza 21 [a folder] and a CRK Green Beret [fixed blade] isn't relevant to his question.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
Get 95% (99%?) of the knife and save $200 and buy a Spyderco Sage 2. Plus you won't get a under hardened S30V blade with the Spyderco.....
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Totally agreed. It's been my real world experience (I dont have an RC tester, but I know soft vs hard, edge rolling, wire edges, and other telltale signs) and CRK's heat treatment of S30V vs Spyderco's heat treatment is worlds apart. Make that galaxies. But I've been flamed enough around here for suggesting that CRK goes soft on S30V. To shift gears, the ergonomics of the Sage are terrific. And the wire clip rocks. The Seb is great if you're a gadget freak that wants a pocketknife with .0000000003" surface grinding tolerances. And butter smooth action even if you jump off a ten story building onto the Allen wrench to tighten the pivot bolt, don't forget that. If that is worth two hundred plus to you, by all means, plunk it down. You can't lose money on a Seb (unless you actually lose the knife). Buy one. I did. And I got out of it as soon as the "there" wasn't "there" anymore. Didn't lose a dime. Satisfied my curiousity and let's me rest in the knowledge that the Sage II is a smashing bargain. The grass, grasshopper, isn't greener in Idaho. Cheers.

EDITED TO ADD: But I'm keeping my CRK Sikayo kitchen knife. Those poor Japanese fellows have been feverishly working for centuries to come up with the perfect kitchen knife. Chris Reeve did it with his very first model. What a freakish kitchen cutlery wonder!
 
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Slowstarter said:
Listen up all Sebenza owners!!!!
Did you stop buying folders after getting a Sebenza? I mean, if it´s the best, what should you get after a Sebenza? Another one?

What I´m trying to say is that I think you will get bored even with a Sebenza, and after a few months (or weeks or days) you will start looking for another folder. The Sebenza is probably a very good knife, but you can get almost as good, or even better knives for half that price.
And would you really use a 400 dollar knife? It could get scratches and it can go dull (and if you sahrpen it it will lose half the market price).

You can get hell of a good knife for $150!!
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Could you please list the knives that are better than a Sebenza at half the price. I'll definitely buy some of them.

As far as the original question about buying a Sebenza - don't put yourself in a financial bind, but if you've have the extra cash to buy a small Sebbie, go for it. You'll either love it, or you won't, but you won't lose a bundle if you decide to sell it later.
 
A Sebenza is nice, but it will cost you roughly twice as much as any similar (S30v, Ti frame lock}, common, high-end production knife. For that price, you can reasonably expect a knife with marginally better manufacturing quality and attention to detail.

If the Sebenza lock, steel, grind, and other features are what you are looking for in a knife, and you are willing to pay the price, the Sebenza might be the knife for you. I like mine, but don't consider it a good value.
 
I think that you should just get it over with, one day or another you will get your hands on a sebenza and then you won't be able to look back.

I bought my first sebenza last winter, sold it foolishly thinking that I could live with a cheaper knife....and have regretted it since the day I sold it.

So what was the remedy, buy another!

A prettier one!

My new EDC, which will be faithfully in my pocket 24/7 for the rest of it's life. I won't make the same mistake twice!

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I owned and sold a small Sebbie, and settled on a Caly3 ZDP/CF. Been carrying that for years now. Another friend owned and sold two Sebbies and settled on a Rittergrip. I just don't think Sebs are all that.
 
Look dude, knives are like motorcycles.. Dont rationalize them.. Dont even try.. Higher end knives, like motorcycles are pleasure items.. Buy the ones that talk to you.. If you want it, buy it.. Period..

Do you really want it?? Can you afford it today? If so, buy it.. If not, eat ramen for a month and buy it next month..
 
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