Tell me about hinderer knives.

They are good knives. I've had several. They don't flip well, and the 3.5 had such a weak detent that it would open in my pocket. That problem "may" have been addressed by now; not sure.
I've also had twenty or more Sebbies, and that's the model to go for.
 
Both are great knives, sebenza is the "gold standard" the hindered easily matches it in fit & finish. The hindered is a tougher use knife and is built much heavier to survive a moderate level of abuse. Between the two I prefer the ergos of the hinderer, anyone that says they don't flip well either has never owned one, is jaded by high tension light switch flippers, or refuses to listen to the maker on how it is designed and how it should be flipped. If I could only pick one it would be the hinderer, simply because any knife I carry must be able to handle anything I may come across. Never had a slicing problem with a hinderer either.

Having both I would say you cannot make a bad choice here, I would base your decision on what you are looking for out of the knife and on which one you think you will carry and use more. Either one will last you a life time and possibly more.
 
Mick_1KRR said:
I'm referring to Hinderer, if the flat head male threaded pin is loctited in place the whole barrel (female and male side) will spin. The female side is a non standard Hinderer designed fitting, so to brace both sides you need to use one normal flat head plus the proprietary Hinderer tool.

I made my own out of a coin.

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Ahh, I never had anyone Loctite the pivot on any that I had used. If the pivot did rotate on my I just put pressure on the blade like a piece of wood so that it would hold the pivot still. Your tool would have came in handy.
 
I own both and bought them both to see what all the noise was about. Plenty of fans for both knives. I don't think you can make a bad choice but I agree with others they are very different knives. For me it's the Sebenza. The Hinderer is too heavy for my EDC preference.
 
PURPLEDC said:
Ahh, I never had anyone Loctite the pivot on any that I had used. If the pivot did rotate on my I just put pressure on the blade like a piece of wood so that it would hold the pivot still. Your tool would have came in handy.
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You're a lucky man! mine came piratically cemented in :/ but all came good in the end. I really think anything higher than blue loctite is asking for trouble on small threads and screw heads.
 
I can comment on the flipping performance of the Hinderer, but the non flippers(discontinued) fly open.

They use to say they weren't flippers, but knives that could be flipped. Since then they have changed the detent.
 
Personally i would go with the Sebenza have several and love each one of them. Have also had a XM-18 but like mentioned above they dont flip very well unless you modify them slightly. They are more of a push button flipper rather than a light switch flipper. If u light switch it req a bit of wrist. But you will hear conflicting stories as each brand has its fan base.

To each their own. Get one second hand here so u r not as deep in hole before u find what u like.
 
I've had really good luck with both CRK and Hinderer. I say watch a butt load of YouTube videos, take all the info with a grain of salt and just buy what you like.
 
wtlj said:
If you want a Flipper look into ZT, the Hinderer's don't flip well (I've had multiple gen 3 & 4). Otherwise stick with your initial choice, the sebenza.


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You don't know how to flip them.. mine flip like a rocket
 
I own multiple of both, CRK and Hinderer. I see the Hinderer as the working-man's knife and the Sebenza as the Gentleman's knife. They are both great knives, but completely different. Hands down, the Hinderer is much more comfortable to hold in the hand, but the Sebenza has class. I would ask you; How do you prefer to deploy the blade? Flip or flick? As others have mentioned, the Hinderers can be finicky flippers. If you want a flipper and have $400 burning a hole in your pocket, the limited edition Zero Tolerance/Hiderer collaboration knives are unbeatable. In my opinion ZT has taken the Hinderer and made it better (trust me I have a few of them also). The Sebenza 25 and Inkosi are more robust than the 21 but still lack the ergonomics of the Hinderer. My vote is for the ZT 0392 series. Just got the BLUBOWIE and love it! Good luck with you decision.
 
Hinderer had been known in the past to have a weak detent, but as of the past year plus that has changed dramatically. Sure every once in a while one comes through with a weaker detent but that is no more often than we see from any other well known knife manufacturer. If you are looking at Hinderer and worried about the detent then contact the dealer. I know not all Hinderer dealers will do this, but most are willing to take 5 minutes and check detent strength on a Hinderer for you. Regardless there truly is a break in period on most new Hinderer knives. Most of my new ones take about 2 weeks before they start flipping perfect. Once they hit the sweet spot there is nothing better!
 
whitty said:
Hinderer had been known in the past to have a weak detent, but as of the past year plus that has changed dramatically. Sure every once in a while one comes through with a weaker detent but that is no more often than we see from any other well known knife manufacturer. If you are looking at Hinderer and worried about the detent then contact the dealer. I know not all Hinderer dealers will do this, but most are willing to take 5 minutes and check detent strength on a Hinderer for you. Regardless there truly is a break in period on most new Hinderer knives. Most of my new ones take about 2 weeks before they start flipping perfect. Once they hit the sweet spot there is nothing better!
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I remember back in the day i contacted you because i wanted you to check the centering, detent and to send pictures of an XM-18 before i bought it, since i live in Australia and sending defective things back is a costly, pain in the ass experience. You did all the checks and sent me everything i requested, so thanks. This is more than i can say for the guys over at KnifeArt.com, they wrote back a rude cocky email saying it's not their job to check things before posting and they simply don't want to do it. Cos you know, it's so hard to open a box that isn't even sealed and check a $600AUD knife for 7 seconds for a potential customer. They lost a good few thousand dollars that day, will never purchase a thing from them.
 
I've owned two sebenzas and a hinderer, one of my friends has owned several hinderers that I've played with a lot. I like both, it's honestly down to personal preference. If you like a big beefy over built knives you'll like hinderer, a Sebenza will be thinner and slice better but won't give you that big overbuilt feeling. Honestly for general EDC both will be fine, they're both top of the line knives and are both great, I'd just get the one you like the look of best. (unless you're cutting through car doors and killing bears with your knife. Then go with the hinderer)
 
I own knives for both manufacturers (5 Hinderer's and a pair of CRK) and I like them a lot. Both are well made and easy to take apart and maintain. Each has a break in period to reach maximum smoothness and I think they warrant the price tag. Personally, I prefer my Hinderer's because they feel better in hand and are easier to open. They detents are strong on all of mine. I have always found Crk slightly awkward to open, my hands don't move like they once did. Either way you should be happy with your choice. Eventually you will probably own both anyways.
 
Hinderer vs CRK comes down to one thing in my opinion. Do you want a flipper or not? I love both CRK and Hinderers (XM-18) and ive owned about 10 or so of each. I've sold all of my CRKs because I prefer a flipper. In fact, I've reduce my collection dramatically so I've kept only the knives that I like the best and my two XM-18s are my go tos.

I also think Hinderer gets the edge when it comes to variations. The xm-18 has so many options for customization -- blade grinds, blade finishes, scales, steel types, hardware, etc... You have some of these options with CRK but not as many. There are a couple different blade grinds and styles across the different models and you have the inlays for scale customization but I've never seen a different blade finish or steel type. So if you're into personalization hinderers are a lot of fun.
 
I do love be the Crk/Wilson Combat collaborations. Man, those are sweet. You might want to check those out.
 
I recently purchased my first Hinderer... and Oh my. It flips very well, I own man ZT's and from what I read online I wasn't sure what to expect. Needless to say, I was pleasantly surprised with the flipping action on my XM-18. The precision that goes into the knives are amazing, but also it is purely purpose built. I like it, because unlike many other knives it truly is pretty good at every task. No matter what the situation is, I know my xm-18 will be able to preform.
 
I own many Zt models and really like them but I see significant lock bar movement on some models when cutting to items that offer resistance. Crk and Hinderer's have perfect lock up that never moved.
 
Eliteone2383 said:
In my research for Sebenzas i came acroos Hinderer knives. I got a little over 400 to spend. Is one a better investment over the other?
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I'd look at getting an Olamic Wayfarer 247. M390 steel, great build quality, unmatched warranty, and you can send the knife back to the company for modifications if you want. I think they do anodizing and other basic stuff for free. It'd be a disservice if Olamic wasn't mentioned in the $400 range considering what they offer both in the knife itself and future customer service if wanted/needed. If something isn't right there's no question at all that they'll make it right. Eugene is absolutely one of the best in the business. And I'd consider contacting him for a knife. He can go over what all they can do to the basic version and for what prices. You'd be amazed (I was) at what all they'll do to add custom touches and for the price they charge and their turnaround time for producing what you ask for. No need to go to a dealer unless they have a specific knife that hits your fancy.

Talk about a company that's about to get super popular if they keep doing what they've been doing for the past couple of years.
 
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Mick_1KRR said:
I remember back in the day i contacted you because i wanted you to check the centering, detent and to send pictures of an XM-18 before i bought it, since i live in Australia and sending defective things back is a costly, pain in the ass experience. You did all the checks and sent me everything i requested, so thanks. This is more than i can say for the guys over at KnifeArt.com, they wrote back a rude cocky email saying it's not their job to check things before posting and they simply don't want to do it. Cos you know, it's so hard to open a box that isn't even sealed and check a $600AUD knife for 7 seconds for a potential customer. They lost a good few thousand dollars that day, will never purchase a thing from them.
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I agree with Mick_1krr, I had a terrible experience with Knifeart and them making me feel like I was putting them out. I made the decision to spend my money elsewhere and then I found Whitty. I have never had a Dealer spend so much time helping me pick out the perfect knife for me. Scott is a great guy that loves knives and tells the truth. A pretty great combination when you are looking to drop some $ on a knife site unseen.
 
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