Test Busse BM V Talonite Custom 9"

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General,

Sooo....What you are telling us is that you want to conduct some talonite tests before you buy? If you want to conduct tests you must buy the material yourself.

So if you want to conduct tests you must be respected or have enough cash. Obviously you are neither!

You have quite an ego for being cheap and ignorant!

To the rest of you I appologize, but could not resist
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General,

I'd hate to see anyone leave Bladeforums with his tail between his legs, even though it is a familiar posture for the British.

Instead of leaving the forums entirely, why not seek the proper audience for your ideas? I suggest the Whine & Cheese Forum. I think that is where you are most likely to get the most appropriate er... "feedback" on your testing propostions. I am sure Parcelsus more than happy to give the password. :-)

Whether or not you say you are Welsh, you are subject the British crown and are, therefore, British. Were it not for the belligerent Americans, you'd be whining and feeling sorry for yourself in German now, "mate", so show a little respect.

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Just like I have predicted
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It was no brainer this would've happen.
Very sad that some of the BFC moderators have forgotten that moderatorial is not only about priviledges, but more responsibility as well. Adds no respect to them (and their products, talonite or not) IMHO.

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Alligator
 
Originally posted by Anthony Lombardo:
Cliff, sice you are also obviously brilliant,
maybe you could tell us the outcome of this test in advance? A.L
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ROFLMAO
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Damn, I needed a good laugh today.
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Just got back from driving around in a miniblizzard.


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Hoodoo

I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
Sometimes I'm ashamed to be associated with the fine community we have here.... Let's see if we can all be "men" and let this thread stop here without the benefit of a moderator locking. I am definitely not taking sides. Both have made improper posts and been way too judgemental. Stop the insanity.

Peace-
Orion
 
Hey here's an idea, why don't you all shut up and worry about yourselves. The reason you can't get along is because some of you are making unsupported speculations and basically don't know when enough is enough(and because none of you can admit he is wrong). I will remind you that this is over the topic of knives and so this whole "tit pinching match" is kind of childish. Who I am though? I am only a 16 year old kid who sees a bunch of "big macho mature men" acting like morons. C'mon guys your cursing this forum with your mean comments and unnecessary accusations. We don't like petty issues like this to drive wedges between good and decent individuals from the knife community. Swallow your pride and go on.
Sincerely,
Luke Freeouf
 
Im not an insider! That is why I dont go around asking for free blades! Insiders (meaning inside the knife industry, personal aquaintances, etc.)

Im going to take the advice of a 16 year old!

Bill

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Over to Whine and Cheese Please
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Where this thread can get the attention it deserves. I would like to add a comment or two but ...

ALex
 
Posting to this thread will just keep it up on the board longer, and I hate that. But, feel it is necessary.

I have heard nothing but good things about Rob's knives, and look for the opportunity to get one soon. I have dealt with Darrel Ralph, Jerry Busse, Newt Livesay, and have a Carson that I wouldn't trade for 5 of most knives. Truly great people one and all, truly artists when it comes to building blades that a guy can trust his life to.

We have a wonderful community folks, appreciate it as there have been few times in history when so many great ones are walking around at the same time.

Cliff, I have used knives in weather so cold it made fur bearers ache, in jungles where I realized insanity is not that far away, from anyone. I have used knives to save my life, and to cut cake with, and everything in between. Never did I choose a knife based on its ability to cut paper when dulled, nor for a manly swipe through that ever present "free hanging rope". Come to think of it, I never found the need to cut a piece of free hanging rope, as God blessed me with both hands. The knife you referred to I owned, for a short time. The knives I referred to above I still own.

Jerry, keep up the great work. Sorry for adding to this thread.
 
Scared of the big bad wolf? Don't sent this guy a knife! He tests; He dosn't test: who cares! No harm in asking...

But why such personal attacks? BFC should not be ruled by EGO (maybe a new name for a high tec knife??!!). I DON'T GET IT ANYMORE, ARE YOU GUYS VOTE COUNTERS IN FLORIDA, or something...

Waiting for negative comments from those that never seem to be happy...

Michael

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nemo.....

no i, unlike some people do not delete threads, if i did i would delete yours
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in moderating, i feel that when idiots get on there bandstand and start telling everyone how great or smart they are, someone should say something. the general tells us how many a-levels he has and genious tested iq and an english master then mispells Alfred Lord Tennysons name in his signature? get serious. again if he is that smart i think he is wasting his time testing knivesand should do medicine and cure diseases and stuff
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design the 100 mile per gallon carb
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Really


I am disapointed by the way the General is treated.
It's a "one vs 10" hard bombing.

Also I have noticed the disparition of the insulting picture of the "Idiot Award" Herman (as a Moderator!!!) has posted.
This is good news.
But I can post it again if you want Hermann... just for you this time
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I see much more arrogant post than The General post. Also Wayne (The General) is really a gentleman compared to many so called experts of this forums.

Don't forget many people are reading these posts and the internet is accessible from everywhere in the World.

The insulting sentences I read many times are not a way to improve that forum.
Nobody is perfect and perfection is really not american nor european or asiatic or african.
So unless you wat to talk only with your neighbourghood and put that forums on the intranet, please try to put some water in your wine.

Many good old forumites don't post anymore because of that kind of ambient.


Franckly, reading your insulting sentences, I would love to have a good old duel with many forumites that I cannot stand anymore.

But against talking about "tail between the legs" Mad Dog, a good WASP, never came at Atlanta for our meeting...
Such a shame. I think many americans got english roots finally...

Hermann you could erase my posts or alter your previous post to make feel mine to "hard" compared to your (now) gentle advices I am keeping copies allways... so you won't change what I would like to show to others.
I still got your post with the Idiot award picture.
I can repost it for you if you need some advertising about the way you "moderate"...

This forums are sad with such behaviors.

JM
 
Samwereb whined:
"General, I'd hate to see anyone leave Bladeforums with his tail between his legs, even though it is a familiar posture for the British.
Whether or not you say you are Welsh, you are subject the British crown and are, therefore, British. Were it not for the belligerent Americans, you'd be whining and feeling sorry for yourself in German now, "mate", so show a little respect."

You really do have an attitude problem, sonny. Nobody in these islands has a history of running anywhere with their tail between their legs. Go and read some history books before exercising your fingers on the keyboard again.

Your intolerant whining attitude disrupted the Shop Talk forum a few months ago, you hated anything that wasn't a direct response to one of your questions. Is it the same agenda we see now?

Roger Gregory
 
Originally posted by Lukers:
Hey here's an idea, why don't you all shut up and worry about yourselves. The reason you can't get along is because some of you are making unsupported speculations and basically don't know when enough is enough(and because none of you can admit he is wrong). I will remind you that this is over the topic of knives and so this whole "tit pinching match" is kind of childish. Who I am though? I am only a 16 year old kid who sees a bunch of "big macho mature men" acting like morons. C'mon guys your cursing this forum with your mean comments and unnecessary accusations. We don't like petty issues like this to drive wedges between good and decent individuals from the knife community. Swallow your pride and go on.
Sincerely,
Luke Freeouf
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Luke, your post is one of the most vituperative of the lot. You might consider applying your ideas to your own posts. What you fail to realize is that "knife testing" has always been controversial and no doubt always will be. Knife testing is far from being a petty issue. And with the Internet as a bully pulpit, self-appointed authorities can make all the claims they want about knives, valid or invalid, and makers, manufacturers, and users are supposed to sit on the sidelines and applaud? You need a reality check, Luke.

Now the General, who seems to be a fairly nice guy, has offered to do some knife testing, but the problem is that most of us here at BF don't know the general from squat. His credentials?

For those interested, I have A-levels in Psychology, Law, Politics, General Studies and English. I am also a final year reading English at Bangor Uni. I am aware of control methods thanks to psychology and know how to perform
a fair test. I will be involving family and friends in the testing for impartiality from non knife nuts. They have no concept of price or any expectations. They will be the control factor. With my Politics qualification I know what an agenda is. I might note that I have an independently tested I.Q. of 172 and got the highest results in North Wales. I was in the paper and made the national and local news. Still enough of that, we are all equals here. Friends to the last!
Well...sorry if I find this laughable. Sorry General. Do you see anything in here that gives you any kind of indication that the General knows anything about KNIVES? Yet the General expects makers to send him some high dollar knives for testing? Based on the "credentials" he cites, why on earth would ANYONE send him their expensive knives for testing????? Methinks the General is a bit ambitious. Has the General done any previous knife testing? Has he made knives? Does he know anything about metallurgy or mechanical engineering. ANY kind of background in the HARD sciences? Has he written any articles on knives? Is he a well-known, generally respected authority on knives? If he is, I must have missed it somewhere.

I mean, why the General and not someone else? How about me, for instance? I took a psychology course in college. Does that mean I'm qualified to "test" knives? Yeah, right. (BTW, if anyone wants to send me knives, I will be glad to test them.
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So while I have no doubt that the General has good intentions, he seems to me to be reaching a bit. And sorry if I find it funny. When people want to set themselves up as some kind of authority, I think EVERYONE has a right to question the authenticity of that authority. And given what the General has told us so far, nothing he has posted would make me think that his knife testing skills would warrant that we all send him Battle Mistresses or Project Ones or whatever for his testing. Notice he has not even specified WHAT tests and just exactly how he will proceed. Don't you think that would be an important aspect of any experimental design? We are all supposed to take it on FAITH that the General's tests will be superior, mainly 'cause he's objective and did well in psychology and poly sci courses, he owns a few knives (and I do mean a few) and he has a high IQ?
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So Luke, go ahead and send him your $350 BM. But I'm guessing you're not going to learn any more about it that what has been written by many others with far more experience at testing knives.

Skeptical of self-appointed "Experts on the Internet",


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I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM

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Hoodoo-

"Have you made computers? Do you know anything about microprocessor technology or electrical engineering? ANY kind of background in computer sciences? Have you written any articles on computers? Are you a well-known, generally respected authority on computers?"

If the answer to any of the above is "no", then, by your own account, you have no business using a computer and thereby posting on this forum.

Music critics are generally failed musicians and accomplished musicians generally make lousy critics. The same holds true in most fields and I am sure the field of knives is no different. That's why the people who design software send it to users (at random) to be tested... NOT experts.

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Orion
 
General-some suggestions:
1.I read your post listing your knife
collection.Sounds like you bought the
entire Smokey Mountain Knife Works
catalogue.Now buy the Frost collection &
the knives advertised on late night T.V.
2.Begin testing on these knives & post your
results.
3.School comes first.Don't post untill you
do your homework.Keep in touch.
Hope this helps.
Sky
 
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