"Thats illegal!!!"

basmca said:
why would i want to stab people???!
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You just haven't met the right people :p but yeah some people just think it is a weapon, and for some reason also assume said weapon is for attack not defense, when your not carrying it to go camping, hunting, or some outdoors activity.
 
basmca said:
oh and for some reason stupid people seem to think i carry knives purely to stab people... which is just.. idek what to say to that...
why would i want to stab people???!
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They are not "stupid." They believe that because so many knife users act stupid with their knives, waving their oversized knives around like overcompensating adolescent boys with some tacti-ninja fantasy.

You are blaming the wrong people.
 
ourgon said:
Some knife companies are helping them to think that way, because they're making tactical self defense knives for super ninja commando units. For example Strider, Emerson.
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Unfortunately, yes. Some of Cold Steel's videos are... hilarious, in a way, so utterly over the top -- but could definitely give the wrong impression if taken seriously. I'm not a fan of the tactical/self-defense angle, and think knives designed especially for those purposes should be marketed more discretely. I'd say the vast majority of knife owners/collectors/enthusiasts purchase and carry their knives for utilitarian purposes (or just enjoyment).

I'm sure the two friends I mentioned have never seen a Cold Steel video, nor heard of Strider or Emerson; maybe the one hadn't been exposed much to the public use of a knife (or, as many have noted, was accustomed to Swiss Army-style or traditional slip joint knives, which seem to raise the fewest eyebrows).
 
marcinek said:
They are not "stupid." They believe that because so many knife users act stupid with their knives, waving their oversized knives around like overcompensating adolescent boys with some tacti-ninja fantasy.

You are blaming the wrong people.
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Almost any time I use a knife around others unaccustomed to it, or in a public space where it might not be expected, I do so discretely, opening it slowly or with both hands, sometimes even keeping the lock disengaged if it's a locking folder, to avoid the quick flash of metal and the snapping noise of the locking mechanism. Use it, put it away when finished.
 
marcinek said:
They are not "stupid." They believe that because so many knife users act stupid with their knives, waving their oversized knives around like overcompensating adolescent boys with some tacti-ninja fantasy.

You are blaming the wrong people.
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true, i guess the blame falls on both sides with that one.
i hate it though, my knives are tools.
 
edgecentricity said:
Almost any time I use a knife around others unaccustomed to it, or in a public space where it might not be expected, I do so discretely, opening it slowly or with both hands, sometimes even keeping the lock disengaged if it's a locking folder, to avoid the quick flash of metal and the snapping noise of the locking mechanism. Use it, put it away when finished.
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Good for you! :thumbsup: That helps us all to not look like stab happy psychos or overstimulated adolescent boys. Thanks!

Clearly knife users have an image problem with some people, and much of it (not all) is caused by knife users.

But you acting like a normal person who just needs to cut stuff, or B bladeboss trying to educate is huge for all of us overcoming the stereotypes and misunderstandings that attitudes like

Person x : "Hey, that knife is illegal!"

Me: "So is everything else in that pocket, go away."
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causes. Those just feed those stereotypes.
 
basmca said:
true, i guess the blame falls on both sides with that one.
i hate it though, my knives are tools.
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Well, sticking one's head in the ground and pretending the actions of some knife users do not affect how people think about us really doesn't get us anywhere.

Not that I'm saying you are solely responsible, I'm just saying it wouldn't hurt if, in addition to educating others, we all took a look at the behaviors of others in our knife user world and try to understand how their actions affect attitudes toward us.
 
I always seem to have the same argument at work with one of the secrataries, in the staff kitchen mostly, when I pull out my ZT0900 To cut boxes, “knives are illegal here” so I take all of the butcher knives out of the drawers and put them in the trash then she always says “that’s different
 
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marcinek said:
Well, sticking one's head in the ground and pretending the actions of some knife users do not affect how people think about us really doesn't get us anywhere.

Not that I'm saying you are solely responsible, I'm just saying it wouldn't hurt if, in addition to educating others, we all took a look at the behaviors of others in our knife user world and try to understand how their actions affect attitudes toward us.
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i've said many times that i disagree with people who carry knives as weapons or for 'self defence'.
exactly for the reason you just mentioned.
 
Sounds more like a made-up story. What is the chance that nowadays a break-room of four guys who happen to all know about knives, knife laws, and knife terminology?
 
basmca said:
i've said many times that i disagree with people who carry knives as weapons or for 'self defence'.
exactly for the reason you just mentioned.
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That is not at all the point I am making.

I am talking about the people who noisily whip out their oversized knives at the family picnic, or at McDonalds, etc and then complain about "sheeple."

I'm done. Getting off the soapbox.
 
It's crazy how often people think a garden variety pocket knife is illegal.

Then again, it's crazier still how often a garden variety pocket knife is illegal.

Consider that with my Illinois CCL it's legal for me to carry a Walther PPQ (15+1 rounds of 9mm) and four spare magazines (60 additional 9mm rounds) hidden on my person in Chicago, but a 2.75" bladed Mcusta gentlemen's knife is illegal:

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Murindo said:
Fortunately here in Texas all the ancient draconia knife laws were abolished over the last three years and everything is legal with the exception in certain restricted areas where blade length is restricted to 5.5 inches.
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Five and a half inches?! Oh the audacity of some lawmakers! How am i to carry my long sword?
 
Glenn Goodlett said:
I don't know. In California the bong is legal and the knife is not.
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Arizona, where you can hit the "kind" ( when medically necessary ) and carry a knife, no limits on size, concealment, auto, otf, nothing off the table. Soon I believe we will have a knife that shoots little knives.
 
basmca said:
i get this a lot '' that's illegal'' comments.

for some reason there's a myth around here that a pocketknife can not be bigger than the palm of your hand.
so very often when people ask about my knife and i hand it too them they lay it on their hand and say ''oh yea that's illegal''

i honestly don't know where this myth came from, maybe another Dutch guy here may know it.
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Reminds me of the Lynyrd Skynyrd Song "Gimmie Three Steps" with regards to gun carry legality. Myth.
 
I have a story that happened the other way...

I went to a Dr appt Monday morning, I've had a lot of Dr appointments recently and usually I'll remember to be carrying knife with some sort of easily removed sheath attachment, a tekloc ot sumilar but this time I was carrying a knife who's sheath is lashed into my belt with a length of cord so when i had to take my shirt off for the young looking nurse I knew she'd just have to see it this time. I was a little worried about the reaction i might get out of this little girl even though it was a smaller knife for me (4.25" blade, ~9.5" overall and actually a more gentlemanly knife from my collection) and there isnt a no-weapons sign at this particular office.

Well right away she notices and says "that's a big knife" so I'm thinking 'here we go' but to my surprise she proceeds to tell me she wasn't aloud to carry her knife (didn't tell me what kind) or her gun at work, even though the building wasnt posted cause its a work policy.


Didn't get into a knife convo or anything, she finished up her blood draw and testing and left but I was shocked the direction the conversation took, especially after her first comment!
 
basmca said:
i get this a lot '' that's illegal'' comments.

for some reason there's a myth around here that a pocketknife can not be bigger than the palm of your hand.
so very often when people ask about my knife and i hand it too them they lay it on their hand and say ''oh yea that's illegal''

i honestly don't know where this myth came from, maybe another Dutch guy here may know it.

oh and for some reason stupid people seem to think i carry knives purely to stab people... which is just.. idek what to say to that...
why would i want to stab people???!
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Im not a dutch guy.... Depending on where you measure it the front of my hands is 3- 3.5 inches wide , supposedly in a lot of places in the states a 3 inch knife might not get you in trouble. so that's my way of explaining the odd myth.....They should have pulled out a ruler or something like that , hands suck as measuring tools.


Cereal_killer said:
Five and a half inches?! Oh the audacity of some lawmakers! How am i to carry my long sword?
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IIRC according to the legal blade app it is legal to carry a sword on you ,I always thought Texas was pretty knife friendly.
 
I live in an area where pocket knives are common, and no one has an issue as long as you're not doing anything stupid.

I have a customer, a friend, who comes into my work from time to time. Last year I was running a test and used a ZT0452 with a 4" blade to open some reagents. He whistles and says, "Damn, Jake, big enough knife for that?"
I say, "this is what I carry for little jobs like this."
He says, "I'd hate to see what you carry for big jobs..."
I snap the ZT closed, lay it on the counter and draw out a 12" Ang Khola khukuri from my belt and start cutting away at the foil.

We both got a pretty good laugh.
 
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