The 4034 knives are starting to roll out. First real world testing shows promising results

seacucumber said:
toughness tests:
Mathew Culbertson: Carbon V LTC Kukri v.s 4034 Gurkha Kukri Plus
Carbon V snapped. 4034 didn't.
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"Some of you claim that my use of this steel makes me a weaker man, and without question this is true - but your knife is dead, while mine is alive. I would argue this makes you the weaker man. I didn't play by the rules, but there never were any rules".
 
Jim malone said:
Iirc 4034 is the same as 1.4034 krupp steel. The German have used these in their Solingen made hunting knives for a very long time. Edge retention is bleh compared to modern steel but remember these hunters did not have diamand coated sharpening stones or a fancy sharpening systems. No hunter i know, nor me, wants a knife with a steel (like say S90V ) that takes hours to sharpen with conventional stones ( if even possible) or needs to be send to the factory to be sharpened. But this german steel can get scary sharp, is tough and is pretty corrosion resistant. The Germans have their heat treatment pretty good under control. If you look at say the old Puma knives, these where made out of 1.4034 steel and nobody complains that they are junk.
I have a few Solingen knives made from this steel and i don't have any complaints about the steel. Now i don't batton with the blades or use my knives to cut miles and miles of cardboard every day on the job. For the average joe this steel, when properly heat treated will perform for their needs. And Cold Steel seems to be going in the direction of bringing knives to their public that are affordable and perform well under normal conditions. We are spoiled with our supersteels but when i explain to non knife people that i have two identical knives and one of them costs 2 times more because the blade is made out of S90V and will cut twice the amount of cardboard in a cutting test but i can't sharpen it myself without special equipment think i'm a fool for buying it! I believe average joe will be pleased by this steel.
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S90V doesn't take hours if you have adequate stones. A good coarse grit diamond and maybe a 600 grit diamond or a spyderco medium stone if you want some refinement. It's really not that bad to sharpen, unless you try to do it on Arkansas stones, and you really shouldn't be trying to sharpen high vanadium steels on anything Arkansas.
 
I’ve just come across this post and im laughing a lot at the arguments haha brilliant I was just curious if anyone has a good thing to say about the 4034 Natchez Bowie 4 years later im thinking about buying one thats all
 
KIRKHILLS86 said:
I’ve just come across this post and im laughing a lot at the arguments haha brilliant I was just curious if anyone has a good thing to say about the 4034 Natchez Bowie 4 years later im thinking about buying one thats all
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What do you want to be able to do with it ?

Probably be fine as a wall hanger , SD , even some light chopping . 🤷‍♂️

IMO , it's a great fighter design , but was never really intended as a utility / bushcraft / survival knife .
 
Thank you mate I’ll give it a pass i was really hoping for more if I’m honest would you suggest i get the 3v Kukri plus or the 4034 version and im more of a collector I never work any of my knives lol im a complete queen im terrible honest
 
If you “never work” your knives, then the 4034 is probably alright as a display piece or for defending yourself against invisible ninjas. I wouldn’t want to use a 4034 chopper as a hard use knife. My small 4034 outdoorsman has been surprisingly okay as a utility knife though.

If money is no object, the 3V kukri should be a more durable tool.
 
DocJD said:
What do you want to be able to do with it ?

Probably be fine as a wall hanger , SD , even some light chopping . 🤷‍♂️

IMO , it's a great fighter design , but was never really intended as a utility / bushcraft / survival knife .
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I dont know Doc isn't 4034 a pretty tough steel if heat treated for it? thought its real downside was edge retention......
 
jbmonkey said:
I dont know Doc isn't 4034 a pretty tough steel if heat treated for it? thought its real downside was edge retention......
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Yeah , that's what I gather also . IDK .

I only have 4034 on some medium sized folders , not used much .

Younger me would have already got a big chopper in 4034 , and tested it hard .

Spoiled by 3V , must be ? ;)
 
my memory isn't great, but I seem to remember 4034 can be tough like 420hc
..which we know is very tough. my memory could be wrong and maybe its toughness isn't so great? pretending im remembering it right..... I think 4034 would be fine for a heavy chopper. id bet its edge retention is a lot like 420hc..not great but good enough and easy to touch up. I say this as I have a cold steel chyna made folder in 4034 steel as the blade and I haven't used it much, but it reminds me of 420hc in edge retention and sharpening ease. not great, but okay for a knife.

so not a great steel, and cold steel went crazy on pricing it real high originally, but on a sale at proper pricing.........I wouldn't be against it for a budget chopper or user steel.

now would I pick it over a different better steel in same knife model and they are close in price, nope.
 
Knifecenter has both the 4034 and 3V Natchez for sale with a price difference of about $60.00.

cold steel natchez - Knife Center

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If I was set on getting myself a Natchez Bowie then I'd spend the extra cash and rest easy knowing I have good steel.
 
oldmanwilly said:
Knifecenter has both the 4034 and 3V Natchez for sale with a price difference of about $60.00.

cold steel natchez - Knife Center

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If I was set on getting myself a Natchez Bowie then I'd spend the extra cash and rest easy knowing I have good steel.
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Even being a notorious cheapskate , I'd go for the 3V ! :p
 
oldmanwilly said:
Knifecenter has both the 4034 and 3V Natchez for sale with a price difference of about $60.00.

cold steel natchez - Knife Center

Buy cold steel natchez from Knifecenter.com - The Original and Largest Online Catalog of Cutlery
www.knifecenter.com

If I was set on getting myself a Natchez Bowie then I'd spend the extra cash and rest easy knowing I have good steel.
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DocJD said:
Even being a notorious cheapskate , I'd go for the 3V ! :p
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ditto. same here. id always choose 3v for 60 bucks more.
 
DangerZone98 said:
If you “never work” your knives, then the 4034 is probably alright as a display piece or for defending yourself against invisible ninjas. I wouldn’t want to use a 4034 chopper as a hard use knife. My small 4034 outdoorsman has been surprisingly okay as a utility knife though.

If money is no object, the 3V kukri should be a more durable tool.
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It’s not that money is no object it’s Just im a lonesome chap who’s now got a serious problem with buying knives especially cold steel I don’t want them to go under haha fed up of hearing people on YouTube and other sites saying there finished ohh there the worst when really there still brilliant ive just got the XL vaquero serrated and the black talon 2 serrated there incredible even better then the voyager tanto

Oh and these apoc blades have got me hooked im still waiting on 3 of them to arrive it’s taking a while from Finland to the uk the smatchet looks insane cant bloody wait to get them and just stare at them haha
 
KIRKHILLS86 said:
It’s not that money is no object it’s Just im a lonesome chap who’s now got a serious problem with buying knives especially cold steel I don’t want them to go under haha fed up of hearing people on YouTube and other sites saying there finished ohh there the worst when really there still brilliant ive just got the XL vaquero serrated and the black talon 2 serrated there incredible even better then the voyager tanto

Oh and these apoc blades have got me hooked im still waiting on 3 of them to arrive it’s taking a while from Finland to the uk the smatchet looks insane cant bloody wait to get them and just stare at them haha
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Im laughing because of the invisible ninjas hahaha brilliant
 
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