The best folder!

Ulf Krogstad said:
Second this.Did you make two of the exact same threads.:)

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My goodness, Ulf, how much of that poor tree did you punch through? :)
 
stabman said:
That's a really tough call, to tell the truth.
They both have great ergonomics, and feel good in the hand when cutting forcefully into material.
The tip on the 0561 is better for "tip work" as the Tuff has a very, VERY stout tip. Neither would break, but the Tuff is almost too robust at the tip.

Both steels are good, but if you want corrosion resistance, the 0561 is the way to go.
If you want "I can cross-grain baton to make notches all day" toughness, both will do, but CPM3V should be even tougher.

The flipper works very well on the 0561, and is the only flipper so far that I actually like.
However, I generally prefer the hole opener system; if you prefer flippers or holes, that could be the deciding factor.

I go back and forth all the time as to which I like better. I'd pretty much call it a tie, with the ZT getting more pocket-time right now due to being my newest knife.
The main deciding between them points based on preference might be:
-Flipper versus hole
-Stainless versus not-quite stainless (do you mind oiling the blade?)
-Lock stiffness on closing (the Tuff is harder to disengage the lock-bar)
-Choils...do you like them or not? Will you miss the little bit of extra cutting edge?

I think it must come down to those little personal preferences, because they are both so perfectly executed.

The only other point would be made in USA versus made in Taiwan: I'm cool either way, but for some that is a factor.

Today I like the ZT more.
Tomorrow it might be the Tuff. :D
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Good to know.:thumbup: Have been looking at ZT's. I see a 0770 or 0810 in my future.
 
stabman said:
That's a really tough call, to tell the truth.
They both have great ergonomics, and feel good in the hand when cutting forcefully into material.
The tip on the 0561 is better for "tip work" as the Tuff has a very, VERY stout tip. Neither would break, but the Tuff is almost too robust at the tip.

Both steels are good, but if you want corrosion resistance, the 0561 is the way to go.
If you want "I can cross-grain baton to make notches all day" toughness, both will do, but CPM3V should be even tougher.

The flipper works very well on the 0561, and is the only flipper so far that I actually like.
However, I generally prefer the hole opener system; if you prefer flippers or holes, that could be the deciding factor.

I go back and forth all the time as to which I like better. I'd pretty much call it a tie, with the ZT getting more pocket-time right now due to being my newest knife.
The main deciding between them points based on preference might be:
-Flipper versus hole
-Stainless versus not-quite stainless (do you mind oiling the blade?)
-Lock stiffness on closing (the Tuff is harder to disengage the lock-bar)
-Choils...do you like them or not? Will you miss the little bit of extra cutting edge?

I think it must come down to those little personal preferences, because they are both so perfectly executed.

The only other point would be made in USA versus made in Taiwan: I'm cool either way, but for some that is a factor.

Today I like the ZT more.
Tomorrow it might be the Tuff. :D
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Hahaha,I can see why :) wonderful knives!
 
Usually, I try to avoid self deference. When I humble myself to myself, I unleash and ego that cannot be easily restrained. Like Cthulhu, only scary.

As to the knife question, I would start with a Buck 110 and when you find things that it can not do, continue the search with a specific set of parameters.

I don't mean to be a smart ass, but i would direct you back to my first sentence. :) Have fun, enjoy the hunt!
 
Ed T said:
Usually, I try to avoid self deference. When I humble myself to myself, I unleash and ego that cannot be easily restrained. Like Cthulhu, only scary.

As to the knife question, I would start with a Buck 110 and when you find things that it can not do, continue the search with a specific set of parameters.

I don't mean to be a smart ass, but i would direct you back to my first sentence. :) Have fun, enjoy the hunt!
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Yea self defense is not a great thing however the thing is I just love the feel and shape of a knife made for self defense! The likely hood of me pulling it out to fight someone is rare because... I rather prefer to turn around and get my fat ass out of the situation! Don't worry your no smart ass :)
 
When I think of self defense I think of the guy who whipped out an XL Cold Steel Voyager (i think) at the gun/knife store the other day. I thought to myself, Holy S you could destroy something with that hunk of sword.
 
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