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The Busse Combat Khukuri . . . . UPDATE!!!!
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The Gurka Regiment.....facing bullets with knives and with close quarter skills that are truely frightening.....making the Khukri the most feared and effective combat knife of all time....
The Regimental Motto
From World War I and II to Afghanistan
Hard as nails.....and when they "get busy" nothing and no-one stands their ground....it takes a special sort of courage to attack a fully armed enemy with a knife....and the enemy know it....
Hope you like the pic's Garth and Jeremy....it was a good blast at the Creek....here's to next year and Hogzilla's with Cheesecake!:thumbup::thumbup:
The Regimental Motto
From World War I and II to Afghanistan
Hard as nails.....and when they "get busy" nothing and no-one stands their ground....it takes a special sort of courage to attack a fully armed enemy with a knife....and the enemy know it....
Hope you like the pic's Garth and Jeremy....it was a good blast at the Creek....here's to next year and Hogzilla's with Cheesecake!:thumbup::thumbup:
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I don't think I've mentioned it before, but definitely put me in the "thicker is better" camp for this one. Khukris if anything look natural with a thick spine and some real weight. :thumbup:
Except those guys who still have rounds left for their rifle.
The Gurkhas have a lot of history as brave fighters, but bravery and knives don't do much good against a good aim and bullets.
Except those guys who still have rounds left for their rifle.
The Gurkhas have a lot of history as brave fighters, but bravery and knives don't do much good against a good aim and bullets.
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Just when I thought it was safe to put the damned CC back in the wallet...
At least there is still a bit of time to put the shekels away.
Cheers,
BJB
At least there is still a bit of time to put the shekels away.
Cheers,
BJB
I'm not sure if that was a reply to my post (because I'm drunk
) but if it was:I didn't mention a pistol. A rifle... now, that, I did mention. Close quarter combat is really nice, but first you have to get to said close quarters. And while you're doing that, I'm going to be shooting at you. So that skill isn't much good, unless you get in a surprise, and then it doesn't really matter whether you're packing a Busse made khukri or a cheap kitchen knife - if you got in that good a surprise, the other guy is dead anyway, unless you screw up. The good thing about firearms is that you can take cover and hope they don't hit you, even if they're Davy Crockett. The bad thing about great close combat skills is that you won't necessarily be quite sure how good the other guy is while you're getting at him. The surprise will be pretty nasty if he turns out to be better.
Don't know what Die Hard 4 has to do with it.
That does remind me - I'm hoping the Busse khukri will be one designed more with utility in mind, and not as a weapon. So I'd rather have a thicker chopping type blade than a longer, lighter, faster swordish khukri.
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A Busse Khukri will be popular, but not a huge seller. A hunk of INFI that big will likely cost at least $597 even in Combat Grade. That is about five times the price of servicable khukris from HI, no? It would be hard to convince large numbers of new buyers to spend that much on a production knife.
Maybe if it was done by Swamp Rat or Scrap Yard, with a more reasonable price point, then it could be a really big seller.
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I don't think I've mentioned it before, but definitely put me in the "thicker is better" camp for this one. Khukris if anything look natural with a thick spine and some real weight. :thumbup:
Except those guys who still have rounds left for their rifle.
Name one encounter or battle that the Gurkha's retreated on.....they have a clean record as far as my research goes....casualties "yes"....but the "turn and run" claim is straight up....check it out....even the Japanese in WWII in Burma....the Germans at Tunisia and Tripoli....the Argentinians in the Falklands....all dead or retreating....you need to factor in "fear" and "paralysis" and "speed" into it all to appreciate what in reality has happened as opposed to theory....but I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong....
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I don't see where I claimed the Gurkhas ever retreated on any battle. I don't think you do, either.
Not trying to diminish their achievements at all in any way. But it would be incorrect to claim that no-one would be or has been able to stand their ground against their assaults. Simply trying to dispel the myths a little. Sometimes that straight-on charge with whatever weapons works - fear, speed and paralysis included in the equation - and sometimes it doesn't. It seems to me personally to depend more on the guys on the defensive than those on the attack. As said, courage and skill will take the attacker only so far, if the defender has rounds in his rifle and courage to stand fast and keep firing. This is historically true for attackers that have automatic rifles, and even more true for those who have only short-range weapons. Now, it requires great courage to stand and die instead of retreating. That in itself is worthy of respect. Although, sometimes, it is also unwise. Sometimes it is more efficient and damaging to the enemy to retreat to strike again from a more advantageous position. But that of course doesn't sound so worthy of being put into songs praising something like war which is inherently an awfully ugly business. Humanity is weird, but so am I.
Point in short: history has proven Gurkhas brave (to suicidal extents) fighters that have often been able to scare others into submission by a simple mad charge. That in itself, though, doesn't change the fact that when the defenders have enough ammo and enough balls, a head-on charge by the Gurkhas will end up with the Gurkhas dead (and has done so before). Courage is great, but it does not subdue death. So, in other words, you're not particularly wrong, just didn't quite catch my drift from my last post. That happens to me a lot. Must be the whisky.
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Good point you got there,:thumbup: Id like to see all three do one. After all, there's a chopper like BM fom Scrapyard and Swamp Rat, why not a khukuri? I can imagine a CG HOGZILLA going as high as $697.00-800.00, and an LE going for $850.00-1100.00... just my guess though, good thing I have plenty of time to save up. Im hoping its obese, Off duty Fat! Once you go fat you never go back!!!
How thick is it Jerry???.... thanks for the update BTW!!!
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I don't see where I claimed the Gurkhas ever retreated on any battle. I don't think you do, either.
Now, it requires great courage to stand and die instead of retreating. That in itself is worthy of respect. Although, sometimes, it is also unwise. Sometimes it is more efficient and damaging to the enemy to retreat to strike again from a more advantageous position. But that of course doesn't sound so worthy of being put into songs praising something like war which is inherently an awfully ugly business. Humanity is weird, but so am I.
Point in short: history has proven Gurkhas brave (to suicidal extents) fighters that have often been able to scare others into submission by a simple mad charge. That in itself, though, doesn't change the fact that when the defenders have enough ammo and enough balls, a head-on charge by the Gurkhas will end up with the Gurkhas dead (and has done so before). Courage is great, but it does not subdue death. So, in other words, you're not particularly wrong, just didn't quite catch my drift from my last post. That happens to me a lot. Must be the whisky.
No I see your point....anyone from a country which has produced Simo Hayha will have confidence in a rifle and standing their ground.....my point is that for 200 years the Gurka's have managed to take a knife to a gunfight at close quarters and never been beaten.....Simo's 505 confirmed kills as a sniper against the Russian's in 1939 would make me feel like it could be done as well ( the highest confirmed kill record ....ever...by a very long way)....but that type of work is not close quarters. I guess we are speaking about two different types of "contact"......
Anyway....let's get back on topic.....bring on the Hogzilla!!:thumbup: Or a cheaper version from SYKCO or SWKCO.....the more the merrier....:thumbup:
Yeah, the Gurkhas have a highly impressive record. But there is nothing particularly unbeatable about their fighting prowess or strategy. Just waiting for the right kind of foe and circumstances. That's the way history is made, just as the Gurkhas themselves have made. I'm kind of a cynical type of history nutcase, or so my so called friends say. But back to the topic we go.
The price thing should be interesting. But if it's going to have a decently long blade, I would bet it will be more than the NMFBM CG. Even so, I would rather have Busse INFI than anything else - it would be great to have a khukri with INFI's edge holding...
But back to the topic we go. I can imagine a CG HOGZILLA going as high as $697.00-800.00, and an LE going for $850.00-1100.00... just my guess though, good thing I have plenty of time to save up. Im hoping its obese, Off duty Fat! Once you go fat you never go back!!!
The price thing should be interesting. But if it's going to have a decently long blade, I would bet it will be more than the NMFBM CG. Even so, I would rather have Busse INFI than anything else - it would be great to have a khukri with INFI's edge holding...
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"The price thing should be interesting. But if it's going to have a decently long blade, I would bet it will be more than the NMFBM CG. Even so, I would rather have Busse INFI than anything else - it would be great to have a khukri with INFI's edge holding..."
Agreed..
Agreed..
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Jerry .................. I LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Busse Khukuri design has been finished for quite a while and all field testing has been completed . . . .
It is very cool. . . . :thumbup:
There are some pretty cool design surprises for those of you who have been following the Busse Khukuri thread. . .
Boy howdy!!!!. . . . just when you thought you knew what to expect. . . . BANG everything changes!!!! . . . . YOWZA!!!!
It will be released sometime next year (2009)
Prepare for HOGZILLA!!!!!!!
Jerry
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