The Cold Steel SR1 and SR1 Lite are the toughest and strongest folding knives in the world...

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If it was the best, they would use it on more than just butterfly knives.
It is the best lock. Of that there is no doubt.
You just cannot make a Balisong lock fail, short of intentionally destroying the knife.

But there is more to a folding knife than just a lock.
This is why, despite all the various locking mechanisms, the humble slip-joint and the humble friction folder still exist.
Some folks will tell you that you don't even need a lock on your folder unless you're an idiot who doesn't know how to use a knife properly.
Personally, I believe that humans make mistakes, and locking folders are more forgiving of our mistakes than non-locking folders.
 
But there is more to a folding knife than just a lock.
This is why, despite all the various locking mechanisms, the humble slip-joint and the humble friction folder still exist.
Some folks will tell you that you don't even need a lock on your folder unless you're an idiot who doesn't know how to use a knife properly.
Personally, I believe that humans make mistakes, and locking folders are more forgiving of our mistakes than non-locking folders.

A allenC , It is easy for folks to forget that knives are sometimes used as tools for work. Not just for opening a tough FedEx package, not for scaring "sheeple", not for slicing an errant clothing thread for a co-worker or for slicing up citrus, or for playing with while watching television.

The same sneering lack of understanding from those who don't use tools for a living runs through the DIY/tool community. I have heard guards on saws referred to as "training wheels" by those that brag "back in my day we were taught how to use saws the right way" and deliver their stock "some people just shouldn't us power tools". Good to be an real expert that uses tools a few hours a week at best, no doubt. Easy to chime in with an expert opinion when you have completed a birdhouse, dog house and a small bookcase over a year or two of time.

One of my best friends is an excellent cabinet maker, and when rushing to get a job out, he found himself behind his deadline and was working late for a few days in a row to catch up. He cut his thumb off a the joint, so it cold not be reattached. He now has a SawStop table saw that will instantaneously stop the blade if contacted with flesh.

I laughed myself silly when one of my co-workers lit himself up when he picked up his saw. This was years ago when not all plugs were grounded, so you had to have an adapter in your truck when working on someone's house. He pulled out the grounding leg of the saw plug so he didn't have to carry an adapter. I warned him... at that time I had been on site for about 20 years... but he didn't listen. He got such a shock it clamped his hand shut on the saw and sizzled him up for about 30 seconds. He was so undone by that he went home for the day. After that I called him "Electro", but he wasn't very fond of it.

Over the last 50 years, I have seen all manner of accidents, some awful, from people using tools that have had their safety features removed or disabled. That being said, I have seen more fellow blue collar guys that use tools for a living tell and live stories of how much they appreciated saw blade brakes, blade guards, auto disconnect features, cut limiters, and other kinds of safety devices. It gets late in the day and you have been pushing hard, you are tired from too many work hours/days, your muscles aren't responding correctly ( have arthritis) and you are ready to put a job to bed are all conditions that are dangerous and foster accidents. I have been in many on site accidents and been hurt many times. The times my tools with safety devices on them have saved my bacon have been many, and I am glad to have safety devices on them.

Likewise with my knives. Reviled by many here as the socially acceptable thing to do, Cold Steel knives never fail to impress when I use them out on the job site. Someone almost always asked to see the one I am using that day, and they completely admire the lock up. They have all had knife lock failures, and almost every single time they were using the knife in a manner not intended, or their were careless/tired and they slipped up and hurt themselves. After seeing my knives, there are a lot more Cold Steel (and a few older ZTs and a couple of Benchmades) out on the job. Some of those guys are unmerciful with their knives and I try to remind them their knives still shouldn't be used as a pry bar, screw driver, mud scraper, etc. As for them, they are finally glad they found a good knife that locks up like a "bank vault" so they can used the hell out of them. Now, they will pay MORE to get a knife that has a good lock on it.
 
Wallace designed cold steel bush ranger is better. just as tough and strong and better blade stock and geometry for actual cutting. also cheaper typically than sr1.
 
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the crkt hissatsu folder is better
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The Cold Steel SR1 and SR1 Lite are the toughest and strongest folding knives in the world. I mean, these things are insane! With the sale of Cold Steel to another company, one can only hope that Lynn Thompson continues to be a strong influence. I've got the SR1 Lite, and it's just an utter beast, and I got for around 60 bucks!

A fixed blade is obviously preferable for a survival knife, but SR1/SR1 Lite would be maybe the top folding knife option as a survival knife in the world today. But, hey, don't take my word for how tough and strong they are. See for yourself...

I didn't think this was possible, but you are single handedly making people hate Cold Steel even more.
 
M midnight flyer

Excellent points, but in my opinion, a knife's lock type isn't the same as a skil saw that had the guard removed or some such modification.

I get wanting more than a slip joint back spring to keep your fingers safe, but if one is using a knife (or any tool) as it is meant to be, the Triad lock is overkill in almost every situation where a folding knife should be used. It's not a BAD thing, but I dont see it as being necessary on the jobsite nor worth a premium to pay for on a work knife. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely will pay premium for a good user (I carry a CRK Inkosi most days down in the hole), but the overall build quality and how comfortable it is to use for extended periods of time as well as how easy it is to get in and out of action means a great deal more to me than if the lock will fail if I somehow get in such a hurry/tired that I exert several hundred pounds to the spine for some reason.

I will admit, I dont spend my day down in mud most of the time and have only been offically doing my line of work for 20 years (if you dont count all the summers my dad put me to work before i got out of college), but I am a 4th generation contractor and I do get out and use my tools hard when im not flapping my gums selling the jobs. I may not use my knives as hard as my old man does. Even at that, he's managed to not slip the lock on a Buck 110 yet after packing one around since the early 1970s.

CS is fine choice for a work knife if it works for you :) Better than a gas station knife or some such garbage I see packed around on the site.
 
I didn't think this was possible, but you are single handedly making people hate Cold Steel even more.

D dogstar , I think you are probably right. Years ago I stayed away from Cold Steel cutlery because we had no stores with inventory here locally (still don't) and no dealers came to our gun shows. So the ONLY "information" I saw about Cold Steel was right here on BF. Just about everyone hated the knives because of the antics of the owner (which worked by constantly keeping him in the conversation) and by the utilitarian appearance of his folders. A mention of Cold Steel always included the same guys proclaiming how much they hated Cold Steel because of LT. I decided to join the herd and while I didn't take his meat slicing antics nearly as personally as many here did, I found them off putting.

Ironically, there was a BF member that reached out to me privately so he could avoid getting the crap kicked out of him for recommending a CS knife for my construction duties. He felt like there (could be some crossover duties as he worked on a ranch and was a user of knives as tools. He advised that I try the CS Amercan Lawman, and gave me some tips on how to tune it up. I was so impressed with the knife that I have several CS knives now love them all as workers. They also go hunting, hiking and camping with equally good results.

But now LT sold the company without permission, and they are apparently having some transition difficulties which are dutifully and completely reported (and repeated) here. They may or may not get sorted out. Hope so. In this day and age, anytime we can keep a company on our shores that pay United States taxes and employ some of our workers I am all for them.

I think that it is important to note that the accumulated fecal matter that could be associated with Cold Steel from this thread is NOT from the product itself, but from the original poster. I have to say, I must tip my hat to him. He posts the same nonsense every once in a while ( like "vanilla is the best ice cream ever" or "Ford makes the best trucks ever") and TONS of the same guppies caught before in his trolling net actually line up to jump in as quick as possible! They make the same comments! "There is no one best knife" and "the BEST knife is completely subjective" and " I had a Cold Steel and it was crap" or they comment on their favorite knife as being better. Same guys, same posts, same huge net full of bait fish. You can't blame the guy (OP) really... he has to be laughing his ass off every time he checks his posts to see the outrage he can stir with a silly post. A master troll.

Sorry it has to include Cold Steel. They may turn into the next big, failed company. But I hate so see someone put off buying any good product (as I was about 12 years ago) based on smut, rumor and hearsay I read here and other venues. I have several CS knives and have been happy with the performance of all of them.

Robert
 
Very well said! Thank you!!
A allenC , It is easy for folks to forget that knives are sometimes used as tools for work. Not just for opening a tough FedEx package, not for scaring "sheeple", not for slicing an errant clothing thread for a co-worker or for slicing up citrus, or for playing with while watching television.

The same sneering lack of understanding from those who don't use tools for a living runs through the DIY/tool community. I have heard guards on saws referred to as "training wheels" by those that brag "back in my day we were taught how to use saws the right way" and deliver their stock "some people just shouldn't us power tools". Good to be an real expert that uses tools a few hours a week at best, no doubt. Easy to chime in with an expert opinion when you have completed a birdhouse, dog house and a small bookcase over a year or two of time.

One of my best friends is an excellent cabinet maker, and when rushing to get a job out, he found himself behind his deadline and was working late for a few days in a row to catch up. He cut his thumb off a the joint, so it cold not be reattached. He now has a SawStop table saw that will instantaneously stop the blade if contacted with flesh.

I laughed myself silly when one of my co-workers lit himself up when he picked up his saw. This was years ago when not all plugs were grounded, so you had to have an adapter in your truck when working on someone's house. He pulled out the grounding leg of the saw plug so he didn't have to carry an adapter. I warned him... at that time I had been on site for about 20 years... but he didn't listen. He got such a shock it clamped his hand shut on the saw and sizzled him up for about 30 seconds. He was so undone by that he went home for the day. After that I called him "Electro", but he wasn't very fond of it.

Over the last 50 years, I have seen all manner of accidents, some awful, from people using tools that have had their safety features removed or disabled. That being said, I have seen more fellow blue collar guys that use tools for a living tell and live stories of how much they appreciated saw blade brakes, blade guards, auto disconnect features, cut limiters, and other kinds of safety devices. It gets late in the day and you have been pushing hard, you are tired from too many work hours/days, your muscles aren't responding correctly ( have arthritis) and you are ready to put a job to bed are all conditions that are dangerous and foster accidents. I have been in many on site accidents and been hurt many times. The times my tools with safety devices on them have saved my bacon have been many, and I am glad to have safety devices on them.

Likewise with my knives. Reviled by many here as the socially acceptable thing to do, Cold Steel knives never fail to impress when I use them out on the job site. Someone almost always asked to see the one I am using that day, and they completely admire the lock up. They have all had knife lock failures, and almost every single time they were using the knife in a manner not intended, or their were careless/tired and they slipped up and hurt themselves. After seeing my knives, there are a lot more Cold Steel (and a few older ZTs and a couple of Benchmades) out on the job. Some of those guys are unmerciful with their knives and I try to remind them their knives still shouldn't be used as a pry bar, screw driver, mud scraper, etc. As for them, they are finally glad they found a good knife that locks up like a "bank vault" so they can used the hell out of them. Now, they will pay MORE to get a knife that has a good lock on it.
 
D dogstar , I think you are probably right. Years ago I stayed away from Cold Steel cutlery because we had no stores with inventory here locally (still don't) and no dealers came to our gun shows. So the ONLY "information" I saw about Cold Steel was right here on BF. Just about everyone hated the knives because of the antics of the owner (which worked by constantly keeping him in the conversation) and by the utilitarian appearance of his folders. A mention of Cold Steel always included the same guys proclaiming how much they hated Cold Steel because of LT. I decided to join the herd and while I didn't take his meat slicing antics nearly as personally as many here did, I found them off putting.

Ironically, there was a BF member that reached out to me privately so he could avoid getting the crap kicked out of him for recommending a CS knife for my construction duties. He felt like there (could be some crossover duties as he worked on a ranch and was a user of knives as tools. He advised that I try the CS Amercan Lawman, and gave me some tips on how to tune it up. I was so impressed with the knife that I have several CS knives now love them all as workers. They also go hunting, hiking and camping with equally good results.

But now LT sold the company without permission, and they are apparently having some transition difficulties which are dutifully and completely reported (and repeated) here. They may or may not get sorted out. Hope so. In this day and age, anytime we can keep a company on our shores that pay United States taxes and employ some of our workers I am all for them.

I think that it is important to note that the accumulated fecal matter that could be associated with Cold Steel from this thread is NOT from the product itself, but from the original poster. I have to say, I must tip my hat to him. He posts the same nonsense every once in a while ( like "vanilla is the best ice cream ever" or "Ford makes the best trucks ever") and TONS of the same guppies caught before in his trolling net actually line up to jump in as quick as possible! They make the same comments! "There is no one best knife" and "the BEST knife is completely subjective" and " I had a Cold Steel and it was crap" or they comment on their favorite knife as being better. Same guys, same posts, same huge net full of bait fish. You can't blame the guy (OP) really... he has to be laughing his ass off every time he checks his posts to see the outrage he can stir with a silly post. A master troll.

Sorry it has to include Cold Steel. They may turn into the next big, failed company. But I hate so see someone put off buying any good product (as I was about 12 years ago) based on smut, rumor and hearsay I read here and other venues. I have several CS knives and have been happy with the performance of all of them.

Robert
I didn't realize it was such a sin to make a post on a blade forum about my experience with Cold Steel knives that I actually use all the time. They are robust, tough, and they are a pleasure to USE!!! Sorry if I offended anyone...but, then again, not really...
 
Yeah, sure.:rolleyes: But, you better not try and find out until the day comes when you can go to Walmart and buy some more fingers.

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Wallace designed cold steel bush ranger is better. just as tough and strong and better blade stock and geometry for actual cutting. also cheaper typically than sr1.
There is no doubt that the Cold Steel Bush Ranger is an absolute beast. I should know, sir, I have one myself.

And...the more I use my Cold Steel knives, the more I admire them...
 
I didn't realize it was such a sin to make a post on a blade forum about my experience with Cold Steel knives that I actually use all the time. They are robust, tough, and they are a pleasure to USE!!! Sorry if I offended anyone...but, then again, not really...
The "sin" is the constant proclamations of absolutes.
 
There is no doubt that the Cold Steel Bush Ranger is an absolute beast. I should know, sir, I have one myself.

And...the more I use my Cold Steel knives, the more I admire them...
not just a beast...it is the best.
 
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