The feathered Tyrannosaurus

Fuller, Thanks for the links. A small dinosaur with "hairlike feathers" like Dilong Paradoxus seems very plausible. I just had a picture in my mind of T-Rex with chicken feathers and it didn't work. :D
 
Somehow, I had suspected that. ;) But even with full birdie feathers, the Phorusrhacid birds, the "terror birds" from South America are still enough to give me the shakes.
 
Ren the devils trailboss said:
steellover said:
This is pretty obvious. as we are modified apes. /QUOTE]

Speak for yourself...I dont buy into the whole we were apes theory.
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Our actually BEING modified apes is more fact than theory. Evolution or not. It is easily shown how similar we are to apes and, just recently, even dogs!

I have seen apes smoking cigarettes and wolves on no-carb diets. Indeed, animals are just as dumb as we are.
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Carl64 said:
Ren the devils trailboss said:
Our actually BEING modified apes is more fact than theory. Evolution or not. It is easily shown how similar we are to apes and, just recently, even dogs!

I have seen apes smoking cigarettes and wolves on no-carb diets. Indeed, animals are just as dumb as we are.
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Chimps and humans have identical mitochondrial DNA.

Andy.
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Carl64 said:
Ren the devils trailboss said:
Our actually BEING modified apes is more fact than theory. Evolution or not. It is easily shown how similar we are to apes and, just recently, even dogs!

I have seen apes smoking cigarettes and wolves on no-carb diets. Indeed, animals are just as dumb as we are.
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Hey Carl, I've always believed that human beings are very similar to canids. Is there research you know of that expands on that idea? As far as wolves on low carb diets is concerned, all wolves in their natural state are on low carb diets. It's meat, meat and more meat and very little else.
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Wolves and (early) humans share a certain degree of convergent evolution in the cultural sense, both being pack hunters. But humans do more than hunt.

Biologically, we are no more like wolves than whales are.
 
A Dogs Best Friend said:
Carl64 said:
Hey Carl, I've always believed that human beings are very similar to canids. Is there research you know of that expands on that idea? As far as wolves on low carb diets is concerned, all wolves in their natural state are on low carb diets. It's meat, meat and more meat and very little else.
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First I had to look up "canid." :)

I had trouble finding the original article I remembered, but here's some others:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/09/0925_030925_doggenes.html

http://petcaretips.net/dog-genome.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4149179.stm
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Esav Benyamin said:
Wolves and (early) humans share a certain degree of convergent evolution in the cultural sense, both being pack hunters. But humans do more than hunt.

Biologically, we are no more like wolves than whales are.
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Humans and wolves, at least are very similar on a psychological level, too. Why do you think that people feel such an affinity with dogs? Sure we don't look alike, except when you look at a dogs face and see "someone" there, but mentally and emotionally we're also very similar, not just socially. Dogs are great people! :D Hell, sometimes they're even better than people... ;)
 
Walking Man said:
Hmmmm...... A tyrannosaur/Quezlcoatl. Maybe the Aztecs knew something.
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There was a movie from back in the eighties, I believe, called 'Quezlcoatl.' David Carradine starred in it. I remember it was pretty good.
 
Wait! Everything we know and believe is wrong! My new theory proves it!

On the contrary, it is consistent with everything we have discovered about dinosaurs over the last 30 years. Every science text illustration of dinosaurs usually has a disclaimer that the coloration and appearance is merely an artist conception. Now we are begining to pull together data on surface texture, so perhaps it is time to pull away from 19th century premise predicated on the passe assumption that dinosaurs were similar to modern reptiles.

Artist have already been coloring these beast with a color pallet appropriate for birds. Now, they simply get to add a light layering of feathers.

n2s
 
Excellent thread, very interesting comments!

As for the coloration, it is guesswork - but can be educated guesswork. Paleobotanists can use fossilized seeds to figure out what kind of vegetation grew in the area where the animal in question lived. Behavioral scientists who study living species can match fur/feather/skin colors and patterns to the animal's life cycle, role in the food chain, etc. The end result is not guaranteed accurate, but can at least be defended as feasible.
 
FullerH said:
Recent DNA sequencing studies show that Homo Sapiens shares 96% of its DNA with chimpanzees. It seems pretty clear that we evolved from the same branch as they did.
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Some studies are moving that figure up to around 98.4%, they now know that there is more genetic variation between Chimpanzees and Gorillas, than there is between Chimpanzees and Humans.

Jared Diamond is right, we are basically a third strain of Chimp.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Wolves and (early) humans share a certain degree of convergent evolution in the cultural sense, both being pack hunters. But humans do more than hunt.

Biologically, we are no more like wolves than whales are.
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Actually wolves do more than hunt together. Whole wolf family takes care of its offspring. Wolf family has a very similar hierarchical structure like humans,and there are other similarities as well. at least among certain European and/or Eurasian peoples .

If I had some animal ancestor it was definitely a wolf not some freaking chimp.
 
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