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Guyon said:
Sometimes you just have to have some heiney.

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Well, in Belgium pretty much everyone thinks that is crap and tastes like pee. There's a popular cartoon that pops up once in a while that demonstrates it correctly. You know Palm? A really tasty, amber coloured beer. It's logo is a large horse. Well, this is pretty much what Heineken is described as over here:

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Sometimes I censor myself for fear of coming across as too sarcastic. Then I flip through the last couple pages to see what I missed overnight and realize I needn't be concerned. (thanks Murph) I hope future archaeologists don't find the Blade Forums server..
 
daizee said:
He is and he isn't.
Aikido teaches you to redirect your opponent's momentum by manipulating his center of gravity via levers, locks, etc. It also teaches you how to fall and be thrown without getting hurt. So if you resist the 'throw' you might end up with a broken elbow instead of a whirl and pin, for example.
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Also Segal was doing ALOT of non Aikido. Clotheslining someone isnt Aikido. Just like in his movies when hes breaking limbs left and right, thats doing Aikido WRONG. I know people will argue with me about that, but its supposed to be about redirection like Daizee said, not breaking limbs. Also keep in mind, that test is alot like board breaking. Your "Opponents" are often working to help you pass the test. If you watch it closely, none of those guys are trying to do anything but charge him. At one point he literally just pushes one guy backwards and the guy stands there, and lets him turn around looking for other people. Its pretty silly.
 
Aiki-DO is exactly as you said.
Aiki-JUTSU or JITSU is the breaking, choking, dislocating, nasty fighting stuff.
 
dbx said:
Aiki-DO is exactly as you said.
Aiki-JUTSU or JITSU is the breaking, choking, dislocating, nasty fighting stuff.
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Yes! You are pretty dead on there. Its the more Violent version. To my understanding when I trained, it came from "Get the Hell away from me so I can draw my sword" and kinda turned into "Get the hell away from me so I can draw my sword" Or"Oh I cant have a sword here ? Ok your in for such a hurtin"
 
Galeocerdoshark said:
Well, in Belgium pretty much everyone thinks that is crap and tastes like pee. There's a popular cartoon that pops up once in a while that demonstrates it correctly. You know Palm? A really tasty, amber coloured beer. It's logo is a large horse. Well, this is pretty much what Heineken is described as over here:

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Hilarious. There should be a mini pony drinking the Heineken and pissing out Bud Select 55. :p
 
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Galeocerdoshark said:
Well, in Belgium pretty much everyone thinks that is crap and tastes like pee. There's a popular cartoon that pops up once in a while that demonstrates it correctly. You know Palm? A really tasty, amber coloured beer. It's logo is a large horse. Well, this is pretty much what Heineken is described as over here:

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Yeah, I was thinking that you don't ever hafta have a Heiney...but then, it wasn't capitalized, so I thought he might have been referring to something other than the beer. I pretty much feel the same way...call me a beer snob (and I'm sure many of you will) but I'd rather have a glass of water, please. Different strokes, I guess. I will say that Heineken is less offensive than say, Haffenreffer.

I'm just gonna add this in here; Deadspin's rating of the 36 worst (domestic) beers in 'Murca:
36. Keystone. This is the worst beer currently sold on American soil. It sits behind chilled glass in a convenience-store fridge like a dumb rebuke to the explosion of American beer variety all around it. In 1978 there were 89 breweries in the U.S.; today there are more than 2,400, and most of the new ones are better than most of the old ones. In 2013 craft beer is no longer the exclusive domain of West Coast weirdos and psychotic woodsmen. These fine days you can score Samuel Adams or Sierra Nevada at the least ambitious of convenience stores and Dogfish Head 90 Minute on the least reliable of trains. And then there is Keystone, which first appeared to the world in 1989, in Chico, Calif., home of the Sierra Nevada Brewing Company. Keystone separates itself from the rest of the crap pack by augmenting the typical stale/sour flavor profile with notes of brown bananas and green armpits. Keystone is worse than Heineken and murder.
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I would drink a Keystone before a Heineken any day. I don't particularly like Keystone, but I dislike Heineken more than I dislike it. I have a friend that only drinks Keystone Light........I generally decline a beer when he offers me one.
 
Silverthorn said:
Also Segal was doing ALOT of non Aikido. Clotheslining someone isnt Aikido. Just like in his movies when hes breaking limbs left and right, thats doing Aikido WRONG. I know people will argue with me about that, but its supposed to be about redirection like Daizee said, not breaking limbs. Also keep in mind, that test is alot like board breaking. Your "Opponents" are often working to help you pass the test. If you watch it closely, none of those guys are trying to do anything but charge him. At one point he literally just pushes one guy backwards and the guy stands there, and lets him turn around looking for other people. Its pretty silly.
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Well......Your mostly correct Thorny. I studied Aikido for 8 years, and while you are correct about the "clotheslining" there is a technique in aikido that your probably mistaken for that. Unfortunately the name of the technique escapes me, (its been a while) but, it utilizes the opponents wieght and momentum (duh) and the bicep area of the arm is used under the opponents chin in a upward motion. This does a couple of different things. As the opponents weight and momentum is going forward, the change of dirrection of there head changes the direction of the body. Morihei Ueshiba (founder of aikido was a very small dude) his theory was where the head goes, the body follows, and in this case it was in the reverse motion of the opponent and lovingly placing it into the ground.
I do agree about your other coments. Aikido takes years to master. and Hollywood has ruined really what it all about. I watched the video that WW posted, and the one comment that one guy made about he would rather be in a street fight situation before being in his Dojo is just a bullsh!t sales pitch. In the Dojo is a controlled environment with people that are trained how to fall, Thats right trained how to fall. A good school will work for months with students just to train them on how to hit the matt as to not get injured. In the video, those students are basically standing in line to get thrown. While I have huge respect for the art, it is not that easy.
I spent a couple of years in my younger days making some extra cash by bouncing at a few different establisments. Got a few scars to prove it. Id much rather go up against my buddies in a padded room that dont want to kill me and know the techniques oppossed to 3 drunks with broken beer bottles that are trying to take my head off anyday.
Martial arts are like cars. Its all personal prefference. Even the bad ones can teach you something about defense, and thats really what its about is keeping yourself safe. Crap about technique and fair fight to me is just that, Its the guy that goes home is the winner. I found in my younger years the all martial arts worked a hell of a lot better on a guy that is unconscience. So if you have to hit him in the face with a brick first to "loosen him up a bit" so be it.
I got a bad rap in college once. A golden glove boxer picked a fight with me, Hell, I thought it would be pretty dumb to fight him, he would kick my ass. So while he was trash talking me to his buddies I picked up a telephone and smoked him in the mouth with it. Fight was over, and I went home with my teeth, and he never bothered me again. thank God.
 
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TMHunt said:
...... So while he was trash talking me to his buddies I picked up a telephone and smoked him in the mouth with it. Fight was over, and I went home with my teeth, and he never bothered me again. thank God.
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You must have Verizon. Sprint would have dropped the call.
 
granitestateofmind said:
Yeah, I was thinking that you don't ever hafta have a Heiney...but then, it wasn't capitalized, so I thought he might have been referring to something other than the beer. I pretty much feel the same way...call me a beer snob (and I'm sure many of you will) but I'd rather have a glass of water, please. Different strokes, I guess. I will say that Heineken is less offensive than say, Haffenreffer.

I'm just gonna add this in here; Deadspin's rating of the 36 worst (domestic) beers in 'Murca:
note: #36.
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Too funny! I had to Google it to get the rest. I'm not too proud to admit that I drank a lot of Miller Lite in college since that was on tap at one of the bars that we could in to being a year or two under age... Growing up in St. Louis, I liked Bud, but and of the Busch variants seemed like watered down "Heineken". If you are going to drink horse by-products, you should do it at full strength.

Interestingly enough, I grew up in St. Louis, my ex-wife in Milwaukee, and my current lovely bride in Colorado, so we've got the three major cheap beer producing regions covered...
 
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