The latest Ganzo Firebird D2 knives

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Danke42 said:
Speaking of saying things I never said; I haven't said anything like Chinese companies being the devil.

I have not commented anything regarding the Chinese.

I have commented on Ganzo and their bad practices but it's merely happenstance that they are Chinese.

For people like you to try and "okay" them by citing others bad acts is ludicrous. If you were a trial lawyer would that be your deference of your client? Sure they did all those bad things but other people have done
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Ya, screw China!
Mike45ACP said:
I've yet to hear any complaints about many of the advertisers on the forum? Maybe most of you are paid members and don't see the adds. Many of them are from Chinese companies like "pearlfeet" they not only sell copies they often don't ship products at all! Read their reviews!
It's obviously not right to rip off someone's hard work. I can't even imagine what Sal goes through seeing all the fake Spyderco's floating around! I don't know what the answer to this problem is but there just seems to be a lot of hypocrisy every time this subject comes up!
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I get all Viagra adds. :confused:
 
Ebenvoila said:
Hello everybody, :)

What are your opinions about the latest Ganzo Firebird knives with ball bearings and D2 steel like the FH11, FH12, FH13, FH21, FH31, FH41, FH51, FH61, FH71, FH81?

All your contributions are welcome ;)
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Members of this illustrious group are required to spit three times and curse the devil, when the word "Ganzo" is mentioned. It is inevitable, self-righteous and boring. One wonders how many Chinese restaurants went belly-up in America because they inadvertently and innocently used the word Ganzo in their business name? Ganzo Knives are "thieves" and their knifes are "untrustworthy" "crap" and no decent, respectable knife lover will speak to you if you ever buy one. Does this attitude remind you of anything? Well, I have purchased not one but two: a G704 in 440C, and an Adimante in D2. They cost me $25 and $45 respectively. For that kind of money I couldn't buy a damned pocket clip for my Zero Tolerance or Spydercos. I thought I'd tell you my experience with these "shit" knives, just briefly.

Please bear in mind the prices paid. I know nothing about the ultimate quality of Ganzo steel. It sometimes worries me, I'd really like to know, till I remind myself what they cost. I assume Ganzo's quality control is poor since this seems to be the common complaint. My two knives were perfectly aligned and functional, no scratchs, no rust, no blade play, fast opening, reasonably sharp out of the box. I have not done any blade testing and Ganzo, unsurprisingly, proffers absolutely no information about sourcing, machining or tempering. A few minutes on a Sharpmaker brought both from vaguely sharp to very sharp. To test the edge I tried cutting the whiskers off a mosquito in flight...but my eyes are simply not what they used to be.

I can say that both blades hold an edge but I've no idea how long because I have done no demanding chores. (I once had a Spyderco Chicago in 440C (Taiwan) that got dull easy as biting an Oreo.) Regarding the Ganzo, may I suggest you watch this video:
Nothing I can add. I'm very, very impressed. The knife is not beautiful but, it is solid as a brick...house. And, I suspect, eminently trustworthy if you've lost your GPS and have to cut your way home.

The Adimante may make Ganzo a fortune. It's a beauty (purple scale) with pivot bearings, a frame lock, and a lovely blade. It's probably Chinese-sourced D2, so it could be absolute crap, so-so, or even pretty good. Who knows? There may be a guy tempering blades at Ganzo's Adimante division who's absolutely nuts about steel quality. Some very famous and superb knives have been made with this out-of-date steel. Greatness is not in a name, but in skill and passion. To reiterate, it is a real beauty.
 
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Russell Lichter said:
Members of this illustrious group are required to spit three times and curse the devil, when the word "Ganzo" is mentioned. It is inevitable, self-righteous and boring. One wonders how many Chinese restaurants went belly-up in America because they inadvertently and innocently used the word Ganzo in their business name? Ganzo Knives are "thieves" and their knifes are "untrustworthy" "crap" and no decent, respectable knife lover will speak to you if you ever buy one. Does this attitude remind you of anything? Well, I have purchased not one but two: a G704 in 440C, and an Adimante in D2. They cost me $25 and $45 respectively. For that kind of money I couldn't buy a damned pocket clip for my Zero Tolerance or Spydercos. I thought I'd tell you my experience with these "shit" knives, just briefly.

Please bear in mind the prices paid. I know nothing about the ultimate quality of Ganzo steel. It sometimes worries me, I'd really like to know, till I remind myself what they cost. I assume Ganzo's quality control is poor since this seems to be the common complaint. My two knives were perfectly aligned and functional, no scratchs, no rust, no blade play, fast opening, reasonably sharp out of the box. I have not done any blade testing and Ganzo, unsurprisingly, proffers absolutely no information about sourcing, machining or tempering. A few minutes on a Sharpmaker brought both from vaguely sharp to very sharp. To test the edge I tried cutting the whiskers off a mosquito in flight...but my eyes are simply not what they used to be.

I can say that both blades hold an edge but I've no idea how long because I have done no demanding chores. (I once had a Spyderco Chicago in 440C (Taiwan) that got dull easy as biting an Oreo.) Regarding the Ganzo, may I suggest you watch this video:
Nothing I can add. I'm very, very impressed. The knife is not beautiful but, it is solid as a brick...house. And, I suspect, eminently trustworthy if you've lost your GPS and have to cut your way home.

The Adimante may make Ganzo a fortune. It's a beauty (purple scale) with pivot bearings, a frame lock, and a lovely blade. It's probably Chinese-sourced D2, so it could be absolute crap, so-so, or even pretty good. Who knows? There may be a guy tempering blades at Ganzo's Adimante division who's absolutely nuts about steel quality. Some very famous and superb knives have been made with this out-of-date steel. Greatness is not in a name, but in skill and passion. To reiterate, it is a real beauty.
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Cool story, but that’s still gonna be a no for me. You spent $70 on “so it could be absolute crap, so-so, or even pretty good. Who knows?”

No thanks
 
Russell Lichter said:
They cost me $25 and $45 respectively. For that kind of money I couldn't buy a damned pocket clip for my Zero Tolerance or Spydercos. I thought I'd tell you my experience with these "****" knives, just briefly.
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You can't find a clip for a ZT or Spyderco for $25 or $45 bucks? No one should trust the "experience" of a person who claims such a thing...
 
Russell Lichter said:
They cost me $25 and $45 respectively. For that kind of money I couldn't buy a damned pocket clip for my Zero Tolerance or Spydercos.
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As the lawfully elected speaker of this Illustrious Group, I shall respond.:p

If you'd ever owned a Zero Tolerance or a Spyderco, you'd have known they offer clips for free. Does Gonzo? Well...maybe a free Spyderco clip will fit a Gonzo since Gonzo copied the clip from the get-go.:poop:

Hard pass from me. For $70 you could have bought a top line CIVIVI, a Chinese company that validates materials and works with known designers all over the world. The error in your diatribe is typical: you assume that our dislike for Gonzo is based on Point of Origin. It isn't. It's based on effort. Gonzo has a long history of lack of effort; helping themselves to designs and features that don't belong to them.

I hope you enjoy your knives. I believe you could have done much better.
 
Russell Lichter said:
Members of this illustrious group are required to spit three times and curse the devil, when the word "Ganzo" is mentioned. It is inevitable, self-righteous and boring. One wonders how many Chinese restaurants went belly-up in America because they inadvertently and innocently used the word Ganzo in their business name? Ganzo Knives are "thieves" and their knifes are "untrustworthy" "crap" and no decent, respectable knife lover will speak to you if you ever buy one. Does this attitude remind you of anything? Well, I have purchased not one but two: a G704 in 440C, and an Adimante in D2. They cost me $25 and $45 respectively. For that kind of money I couldn't buy a damned pocket clip for my Zero Tolerance or Spydercos. I thought I'd tell you my experience with these "shit" knives, just briefly.

Please bear in mind the prices paid. I know nothing about the ultimate quality of Ganzo steel. It sometimes worries me, I'd really like to know, till I remind myself what they cost. I assume Ganzo's quality control is poor since this seems to be the common complaint. My two knives were perfectly aligned and functional, no scratchs, no rust, no blade play, fast opening, reasonably sharp out of the box. I have not done any blade testing and Ganzo, unsurprisingly, proffers absolutely no information about sourcing, machining or tempering. A few minutes on a Sharpmaker brought both from vaguely sharp to very sharp. To test the edge I tried cutting the whiskers off a mosquito in flight...but my eyes are simply not what they used to be.

I can say that both blades hold an edge but I've no idea how long because I have done no demanding chores. (I once had a Spyderco Chicago in 440C (Taiwan) that got dull easy as biting an Oreo.) Regarding the Ganzo, may I suggest you watch this video:
Nothing I can add. I'm very, very impressed. The knife is not beautiful but, it is solid as a brick...house. And, I suspect, eminently trustworthy if you've lost your GPS and have to cut your way home.

The Adimante may make Ganzo a fortune. It's a beauty (purple scale) with pivot bearings, a frame lock, and a lovely blade. It's probably Chinese-sourced D2, so it could be absolute crap, so-so, or even pretty good. Who knows? There may be a guy tempering blades at Ganzo's Adimante division who's absolutely nuts about steel quality. Some very famous and superb knives have been made with this out-of-date steel. Greatness is not in a name, but in skill and passion. To reiterate, it is a real beauty.
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I wouldn't personally come on here and admit that I got suckered into buying crappy knives when I could have gotten a CIVIVI and CJRB with original designs, materials that have been thoroughly vetted and extremely high build quality for roughly the same price, but I do value my dignity somewhat, so I suppose we're different in that regard.

Side note, if the name Ganzo is so reviled that they're causing other, unrelated businesses to fail that tells you much more about Ganzo as a company than about those that eschew their products. I doubt logic will have much effect on you, as I suspect you're just here to shill, but I did want to make it totally clear that your argument and concern trolling is exceedingly stupid.
 
Russell Lichter said:
Members of this illustrious group are required to spit three times and curse the devil, when the word "Ganzo" is mentioned. It is inevitable, self-righteous and boring. One wonders how many Chinese restaurants went belly-up in America because they inadvertently and innocently used the word Ganzo in their business name? Ganzo Knives are "thieves" and their knifes are "untrustworthy" "crap" and no decent, respectable knife lover will speak to you if you ever buy one. Does this attitude remind you of anything? Well, I have purchased not one but two: a G704 in 440C, and an Adimante in D2. They cost me $25 and $45 respectively. For that kind of money I couldn't buy a damned pocket clip for my Zero Tolerance or Spydercos. I thought I'd tell you my experience with these "shit" knives, just briefly.

Please bear in mind the prices paid. I know nothing about the ultimate quality of Ganzo steel. It sometimes worries me, I'd really like to know, till I remind myself what they cost. I assume Ganzo's quality control is poor since this seems to be the common complaint. My two knives were perfectly aligned and functional, no scratchs, no rust, no blade play, fast opening, reasonably sharp out of the box. I have not done any blade testing and Ganzo, unsurprisingly, proffers absolutely no information about sourcing, machining or tempering. A few minutes on a Sharpmaker brought both from vaguely sharp to very sharp. To test the edge I tried cutting the whiskers off a mosquito in flight...but my eyes are simply not what they used to be.

I can say that both blades hold an edge but I've no idea how long because I have done no demanding chores. (I once had a Spyderco Chicago in 440C (Taiwan) that got dull easy as biting an Oreo.) Regarding the Ganzo, may I suggest you watch this video:
Nothing I can add. I'm very, very impressed. The knife is not beautiful but, it is solid as a brick...house. And, I suspect, eminently trustworthy if you've lost your GPS and have to cut your way home.

The Adimante may make Ganzo a fortune. It's a beauty (purple scale) with pivot bearings, a frame lock, and a lovely blade. It's probably Chinese-sourced D2, so it could be absolute crap, so-so, or even pretty good. Who knows? There may be a guy tempering blades at Ganzo's Adimante division who's absolutely nuts about steel quality. Some very famous and superb knives have been made with this out-of-date steel. Greatness is not in a name, but in skill and passion. To reiterate, it is a real beauty.
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Sad.
 
Everyone can rest easy. Just did a google search for all those Chinese restaurants forced to close because of this name and their are none. Didn't even see any with that name. Couple sushi places

I did look up the definition of this Italian word. It means if you're married and you have a lover on the side that's your ganzo.

But I'm sure all his other facts are correct,,,,
 
S-3 ranch said:
Well ganzo and other Chinese knife manufacturers are only getting better now that bohler has setups shop and makes and heat treatments the blades https://cms.aws-test.voestalpine-specialsteel.com/boehler-china/zh-hans/value-added-services/

ganzo is what it is, a Chinese knife manufacturer , that is only getting better supplies now
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You can be assureed they will not try to steal any propitiatory information from Bohler for their side factories.

Just kidding; they're probably got someone going through their desks and laptops already for "research".
 
danbot said:
What Ganzo is, is a Chinese IP theft ring that manufactures knock-offs of designs from legitimate companies.
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Yep , they may fudge on design, but with European and American companies setting up shop to heat treatment and QC of components, we will probably start seeing new and better quality blade material
bohler made blades, Chinese asembled
 
S-3 ranch said:
Yep , they may fudge on design, but with European and American companies setting up shop to heat treatment and QC of components, we will probably start seeing new and better quality blade material
bohler made blades, Chinese asembled
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Yes, the future looks very crappy, indeed!
 
S-3 ranch said:
Yep , they may fudge on design, but with European and American companies setting up shop to heat treatment and QC of components, we will probably start seeing new and better quality blade material
bohler made blades, Chinese asembled
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The fact that you think this is a good thing is sad, as a knife enthusiast. Remember back when great knives were made here in the US? Now a lot of those guys outsource to China, with the biggest result being that most of these knives all function, look, and feel the same. Yaaaayyyyyy....another titanium flipper framelock with an M390 blade, so unique!! Feels exactly like every one of these they make for every other company/maker. :rolleyes:

PASS.
 
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