I don't champion that stuff.
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The LAWKS system (Lake and Walker Knife Safety system)
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I don't champion that stuff.
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I've only played with them at gun shows or stores but I think Planterz nailed it on the first page.
To get everything out of that knife you can you should put a ghetto zip tie wave in the thumb stud hole. Nice score and I hope it serves you well.
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I love that!!!
And in response to Planterz...knives don't need it, but it makes them safer...just like cars don't need airbags.
Sorry. You don't champion it...you call it genius and great.
So...how did you go from praising the multifunctionality and minimum of parts in your beloved flippers, to calling a part that needs other parts to work reliably "genius"?
Or does your divine voice transcend hominid logic? Just wanting to know where you are coming from.
marinek, I'm getting a little confused by your post, let me clarify as I do not know if the divine language is your first language.
I champion simplicity and multifunctionality not complexity and lack of functionality. The LAWKS system falls in the categories of SIMPLICITY and FUNCTIONALITY, so that's why I like it.
I champion simplicity and multifunctionality not complexity and lack of functionality. The LAWKS system falls in the categories of SIMPLICITY and FUNCTIONALITY, so that's why I like it.
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In my opinion that is poor analogy. I would equate the LAWKS system to a bicycle which has both dual hand brakes as well as a pedal brake. If the hand brakes are properly constructed and work as advertised then the pedal brake would be redundant.
In my opinion that is poor analogy because the LAWKS system is not a blade lock itself, it is merely a system to enforce that the lock doesn't fail. kinda like airbags are a system to enforce that your face doesn't slam into stuff if the seatbelts don't have enough restraint...yeah?
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It does help lock the blade though. Two systems doing one job.
I am no expert but I would think that airbags and seatbelts work in tandem to protect someone from different kinds of collisions. Seatbelts more for fender benders while airbags more for the high speed crash.
LAWKS system is just a fail-safe. That's all.
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I also think of the LAWKs as working like brakes on a bike but both brake handles stop the same tire. And that abuse vid is pretty nice, if the LAWKs system only works under easy use then its totally useless. They broke it under heavy use where its suppose to be doing its job.
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I know some folks have mild anyurisms when this is mentioned, but here it goes anyway. By the same logic, people have used slip joint knives (no locks) and managed to have them last decades. There are a lot of people that spend hundres of dollars on knives and those that spend much less. I rarely see that many that use their knives to thepoint of failure or even close. On average I'd say folks use their knives for opening mail, cutting a box open, and possibly food prep on occasion, nothing really that would cause cosmetic damage much less mechanical damage. There is the exception, but it's rare.
Go ahead and look up lock strength tests on YouTube. The LAWKS system fails where Emerson liner locks (which I don't even like), Cold Steel's leaf spring locks and Tri-Ad locks succeed.
I'll wait.
The only test I consider valid are controlled tests. Where there is a machine used to apply pressure to the handle of the knife in order to make the lock fail. Hanging weights is gimmicky too, as is stabbing car hoods, flak vests, and cutting meat filled denim. One ninjas "science" is another mans gimmick.
no need to wait, it's past my bedtime.
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Blade-Fiend's analogy for the win. It is sad that a simple tool needs a fail-safe.
All this discussion aside I hope you enjoy the knife and use it in health.
Also, aesthetically it is a good looking knife.
All this discussion aside I hope you enjoy the knife and use it in health.
Also, aesthetically it is a good looking knife.
some of these mass produced "simple tools" sell for $400...now that's sad!
And thank you for your best wishes.
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Ain't it? But we America. There's a little something for us all.
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I have owned 2 Hammond Cruisers by CRKT. if they are any example of the model as a whole, then they need the LAWKS. Both of my blades had far less than stellar lockup. They both had lock rock, and took very little time to wear to the point that the lockup was so late, that I was more concerned with the lock just moving right off the far side of the blade tang (where the LAWKS would do no good) than just coming unlocked.
By the way, my M1613z and my Ripple, have no such issue, but both still have what I would consider very thin liner locks.
By the way, my M1613z and my Ripple, have no such issue, but both still have what I would consider very thin liner locks.
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In my case, my CRKT liner lock failed cutting a box. The blade got jammed up and I pushed upward, and the lock failed. Certainly this can be considered partially "user error", since I wasn't using the knife properly, but the lock still failed under rather minimal stress. I wasn't batoning or spinewhacking. Just some upward pressure in bound-up cardboard. It's also possible I somehow depressed the liner a bit causing it to unlock. I don't remember. About all I do remember is the cut, showing it to my boss (who nearly feinted), and nearly feinting myself at the hospital because of that awful sterile inside-a-bandaid-box smell of the place.
The point is that I don't much like linerlocks anymore, I don't like CRKT, and I don't trust a CRKT linerlock that requires yet another lock to be "safe". Maybe I'm bitter. And granted, this was back when CRKT was a young and fledgling company. But I've had linerlocks since that seemed just fine (Microtech, Spyderco, Kershaw). I probably wouldn't do what I did with that CRKT, but I don't treat any folding knife like that anymore, even my AXIS locks, which I know won't fail in that way. Ironically, these days the majority of my cutting is done with traditional slipjoints.
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I dont use my knives for opening mail etc. Mostly while camping or being outdoors. Cutting rope, branches for kindle, etc. I abuse my knives. I dont care for crkt in general because of the lawks system. It's like a car with two brake pedals.
Don't most cars have... Emergency brakes?
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I have been carrying liner lock knives ever since they first came out. I have never experienced a down side. I do have a CRKT M16 with that feature, and mostly it's a PITA.
Because it is a lock that needs added parts to function.
That's contradictory nonsense. But, hey, it's the "divine language" you speak, and, in retrospect, you must have been speaking it in all your previous posts.I'm sure the nature of this "divine language" will explain the content of you future posts also. :thumbup: