The NEW Burger Exkelibur model!!!

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With my original post regarding the making of the EXK (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=689188) a lot of members bought the knife with a request to disassemble the knife. Since then Trevor has been redesigning the EXK and introduced the new EXK at the Easter Knife Show in Durban.

The knife features a new 2mm thick liner and can be disassembled competently. It comes in a great package with everything you need. torx, special pivot tool, allen wrench a nice pouch and a cloth to clean the knife. Trevor even put extra Teflon washers and pivot set screw (since it is the smallest component) into the but of the special pivot tool (a very nice touch in my opinion).

Here are some pictures when I received the CF model EXK.

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Of course the best way to test the new lock is to use it. I used it recently doing some woodwork and buschcraft. We have some really dense wood so it does test a knife manufacturing when carving with the tip of a knife. I really did not think much of the lock initially. So during using the EXK I tried to apply as much force on the tip of the knife in order to see if the lock would ‘jump’ around on the engagement or if there was flex in the knife somewhere. All I can say is damn this knife is build solidly!!! There was no flex and the liner moved over and gave more solid lockup when a LOT of pressure was applied. Functioning more like a framelock and well executed liner lock should function.

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I think the small differences that Trevor introduced made huge difference. He told me that this is the highest tolerances he has ever made a knife to and it shows. I love the design of the knife and it is a user. The design has worked for me in everything I have encountered when hunting and EDC.

I have the N690 Bohler steel and it has been a great EDC. I just got off the phone and Trevor is going to have a few steels to choose from for his clients. These include N690 Bohler, Panzer 36, S30V and D2. I am really drawn to getting another for me with the D2 Tool steel with camo handle. Think it will be a great knife!

Trevor also introduced a new website for those who are interested. He is doing some videos to show disassembly of the knife etc and the site also has a Trevor’s blog. Trevor and his brother also have a stall at the Blade show in Atlanta this year for those that might be interested.

His website is: www.burgerknives.co.za
 
Very nice....and unique.

I really like it. Maybe a pic next to the Sebenza you opened the package with??

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Looks good. Quick question though. Is it just the lighting or are the blade grinds uneven where the edge meets the choil (on both knives for that matter)?

And one final observation. It's interesting how the liner lock has two cutouts (the cut outs that makers put on lockbars so the bar engages/disengages easier).

I like the new model, but I prefer the old version's scales without the finger relief on the non-locking side for lockbar disengagement. I hate hate hate hate hate finger reliefs. I emailed Trevor about if he can accommodate special requests like that, so as to have the old style hand scales.
 
Hi marthinus -

Nice little knife!

Thank you for your pictures.

best regards -

mqqn
 
Thanks for the update Marthinus:thumbup:.


Like the thicker liners :). The scales are thinner and no red liner. Or is this for the cf versiom only?
The camo g10 looks good.

He does list/use both our reviews on his new site;).



The prices are also updated;).


Joel
 
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The prices are also updated;).


Joel

I would like to rephrase "The prices are also updated:(."

It's my problem that I was a bit slow to order the older model, but that's a heck of a jump, $95 increase! I guess I will have to settle for the boker.

Is it just me or do those cut outs that are opposing each other in the locking liner look like they weaken it substantially?

The EXK sure does look nice though. Great photo's, Thanks.
 
Very nice....and unique.

I really like it. Maybe a pic next to the Sebenza you opened the package with??

:thumbup:

I wish I could with the new EXK. The pictures of the knife being unwrapped were taken a few weeks ago. I was mugged three hours later so I do not have the Sebenza anymore (they also took my Large EXK and the new CF EXK). I recieved a new EXK a few days ago. I am still busy with CRK to help me import a new Sebenza 21. I miss my small Regular. Is one of the best knives ever IMO but I want to try a bigger Sebenza now. They have been very helpfull. The best I can do is to post an old picture for size comparison. Hope it might help somewhat?

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Looks good. Quick question though. Is it just the lighting or are the blade grinds uneven where the edge meets the choil (on both knives for that matter)?

And one final observation. It's interesting how the liner lock has two cutouts (the cut outs that makers put on lockbars so the bar engages/disengages easier).

I like the new model, but I prefer the old version's scales without the finger relief on the non-locking side for lockbar disengagement. I hate hate hate hate hate finger reliefs. I emailed Trevor about if he can accommodate special requests like that, so as to have the old style hand scales.

It is just the lighting. If the blade grinds were that uneven it would be unexceptable IMO and I am sure Trevor would never let a knife leave his shop with bladegrinds like that.

Thetwo cutouts are something new. I have used it so far without any problems. Will see how it holds up through the years of EDC.

I agree on the relief cutouts. The cutouts on the new one are slightly bigger then the old ones but I am sure Trevor will help you with that. He is a great guy to deal with. I have only noticed the difference now that you have pointed them out. (I just white nuckled the new knife so hard it started to hurt my hand and my fatty fingers did not get into the relief area to disengage the lock.)

I would like to rephrase "The prices are also updated:(."

It's my problem that I was a bit slow to order the older model, but that's a heck of a jump, $95 increase! I guess I will have to settle for the boker.

The EXK sure does look nice though. Great photo's, Thanks.

It is the first time Trevor has increased his prices in 4 years. I can understand the jump. He said when he phoned me he has increased his tolerences. He has never made a knife with these high tolerences. He can just pick up a blade and lock and it will fit without any other tweaking. The time and cost that goes into that with the design of the new pivot for the knife to be completely taken apart I feel is worth it.

The nice thing of the pivot is that you can adjust the tention of the blade to what you like without any locktite.

Either way you go Boker or Burger if you like the design I think you should go for it. If you like the Boker that much and want more then go for the Burger later on.

Thanks for the update Marthinus:thumbup:.


Like the thicker liners :). The scales are thinner and no red liner. Or is this for the cf versiom only?
The camo g10 looks good.

He does list/use both our reviews on his new site;).



The prices are also updated;).


Joel

Hi Joel

The scales are thinner, I do not know if it just on the CF model. I just could not resist a EXK in CF. My first CF knife. I am sure you can email him about the finer details regarding the red line etc. It is something I do miss.

I LOVE the camo......I want one with camo and D2 for use on the farm. Think it will be a great combo! :thumbup: Get a nice patina on the blade from hunting and buschcraft.....think I need to place another order....but I need to get a new (large) Sebenza first.
 
Sounds good. I sent an email to see if he can do a custom request.

I inquired about the new model kit (with the pivot tool, etc) but the LEXK version. I also specified I wanted dual liners of the same thickness. So, if he's gonna use the same 2 mm lock bar on the Large EXK, than I want a 2 mm opposing liner as well. Personally, I wouldn't mind if he went thicker as I do like a fat grip. I told him he could go to 3 mm on the lock bar and 3 on the non-locking liner as well, if he wanted. I also request no pocket clip holes since this knife would be used as a gentlemen carry alternative to my less-sheeple friendly DDR HTM knife. I requested polished g10 if he could do that. Otherwise, I'd take the standard skateboard grit g10. Lastly, I requested that he keep both handle scales the symmetrical, without the finger relief on the non-locking side.

I basically put his custom knives to the test, considering that is how Burger knives are billed...hand made custom knives. It'll be interesting to see how custom Trevor will go. Looking forward to hearing back from him. This will be my first truly custom piece.

I have yet to decide on n690 Bohler or s30v.

Personally, I don't need to be able to close the knife fast or easily for that matter. Personally, I can close a linerlock/framelock just as fast with or without a finger relief to aid in lock disengagement.

The nice thing of the pivot is that you can adjust the tention of the blade to what you like without any locktite.
How does this work exactly? In my mind I picture the pivot screw tension-er thingamabob getting lose over time with repeated use of the knife as well as repeated opening/closing of the knife. Is it just a set screw that applies pressure to the blade kind of like a ball detent? If that's the case, I would think such a mechanism would, over time, carve a groove on the blade. I know even ball detents have been known to do that. The tension thing is the only thing I'm a bit worried about.
 
Those look great. Is it just my eyes or is the lockbar on the newer model thinner than the older one?
 
How does this work exactly? In my mind I picture the pivot screw tension-er thingamabob getting lose over time with repeated use of the knife as well as repeated opening/closing of the knife. Is it just a set screw that applies pressure to the blade kind of like a ball detent? If that's the case, I would think such a mechanism would, over time, carve a groove on the blade. I know even ball detents have been known to do that. The tension thing is the only thing I'm a bit worried about.

Ok. I am going to try and explain how it works as far as I know. You have a female screw, male screw and then a set screw that goes into the female screw (can be seen in the 8th picture of the old and new models side by side).

You do not need to unscrew the set screw completely when taking the knife apart.

When putting the knife back together I first inserted the female part with set screw unscrewn a little. Then I put the make screw in and tightened down to the smoothness I prefer. Then all I do is tighten the set screw down. Then all is tight and right and none of the screws have come untightened in my use.

So everything is within the pivot and the only thing that puts pressure on the blade is the ball on the liner lock that falls into the ball detent when closed.

Hope all that makes sence?:confused::)

Those look great. Is it just my eyes or is the lockbar on the newer model thinner than the older one?

The lock on the new one is the thicker liner lock (2mm and the blade is 3mm at the spine) In the 2nd and 3d picture of the old and new model the new one is on the left.

whats it cost is two hand opening or am i missing something it looks nice

It is one hand opening. Here is the old model in a video I made.



Trevor posted some new remarks on his site. Here is what he had to say.

23 April 2010

In continually striving to better my product line, I have for a long time given thought to beefing up the EXK build.
As an avid carrier and user of the EXK and encouraged by customer suggestions decided to implement the following changes:
Make use of a 2mm(.080) titanium liner rather that 1.2mm(.047)
This accommodates a pivoted locking bar rather than thin locking spring
All components are secured to the 2mm ti liner, including a press fitted 3.2mm stop pin.(increasing build strength)
The mechanism with its extended blade for opening is very positive, allowing slight "snapping" into the open and closed positions without excessive spring pressure and ample access to the spring for release of the lock.
The pivot on the kit models incorporates a 1.5mm (.060)grub screw which can easily and quickly adjusted to set blade pivot tension.
The simple build allows EXK Kit customers to easily take down this model for cleaning and reassemble. Which over the years I have felt necessary for a knife that works in extreme conditions.
Also on offer with the new look EXK is the choice of 4 different blade steels N690,PANZER36,S30V and D2(PLEASE VIEW BLADE STEEL BLOG)

The EXK with its new study reengineering, custom finishes, variety of premium grade materials to order and overall durable quality has once again proven this EDC as real value......
 
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