The NEXT SALE

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Casinostocks said:
In the past people have helped me and in return I have helped others. I think that the creates great juju. What says you?
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I personally (obviously) agree.

Ill certainly pay it forward.

Only problem is that you got nothing apart from a big thank you, as you went to some lengths to get me the HDFK.

I can maybe send you a used SAK Spartan to go with your CPKs:D;);)
 
Dabling said:
I own three of your knives (an edc2, a field knife and a shiv [I once had two shivs...]). They are my favorites. Nothing compares with ergos and I just cannot get over how sharp they stay. I bought the shivs and the fk on the weekly burn years ago. I tried to buy an edc2 on the list and I missed out over and over. I ended up buying one off the buy sell trade post, paying a premium of course (the knife is amazing and wow!!!). And I thought hell I’ll try again and see about an hdfk...again I lost out.

I’m tired of the proxy bidding bullshit! Stop buying Nathan’s knives to resell and stop with the proxy. Let people who use knives put these fantastic knives to use! If you can’t make a sale you don’t need his knives enough...its like showing up fer stew when the bell rings, chow’s on! And when the pot’s empty there ain’t no more.
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I think that you are totally wrong. Proxying is a way to allow people who, for reasons of access or connectivity can't participate in the sales, to have a fair chance of landing a knife. Just take this last sale for example, I misread the message of the person who asked me to proxy, and I then proceeded to throw a bit of a fit because they also tried (they have famously spotty connectivity) and we both landed well. I didn't like the idea that we had doubled up. And the end result was that even though we BOTH landed a slot, we BOTH vacated our spots because that is the kind of people that hang out here on the regular (I have offered to proxy again on the next sale because I feel bad that the man missed out on two chances to land an HDFK).

Yes, there are flippers who turn around and sell the knives for profit, but most folks around here buy and sell in a principled fashion. Proxying is a way to even the odds, not a scam.
 
BladeScout said:
I personally (obviously) agree.

Ill certainly pay it forward.

Only problem is that you got nothing apart from a big thank you, as you went to some lengths to get me the HDFK.

I can maybe send you a used SAK Spartan to go with your CPKs:D;);)
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Haha, no I don't expect or need anything but I greatly appreciate the gesture :thumbsup:

P.S. edited to add that you enjoying that HDFK will be the ultimate reward because it's my adopted pattern (FYI :) )
 
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abbydaddy said:
I think that you are totally wrong. Proxying is a way to allow people who, for reasons of access or connectivity can't participate in the sales, to have a fair chance of landing a knife. Just take this last sale for example, I misread the message of the person who asked me to proxy, and I then proceeded to throw a bit of a fit because they also tried (they have famously spotty connectivity) and we both landed well. I didn't like the idea that we had doubled up. And the end result was that even though we BOTH landed a slot, we BOTH vacated our spots because that is the kind of people that hang out here on the regular (I have offered to proxy again on the next sale because I feel bad that the man missed out on two chances to land an HDFK).

Yes, there are flippers who turn around and sell the knives for profit, but most folks around here buy and sell in a principled fashion. Proxying is a way to even the odds, not a scam.
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I like your hissy fits :D

Regarding the flagrant flippers: we know, they know and CPK knows who they are. No one is fooling anyone, nuff said ;)
 
Casinostocks said:
Haha, no I don't expect or need anything but I greatly appreciate the gesture :thumbsup:

P.S. edited to add that you enjoying that HDFK will be the ultimate reward because it's my adopted pattern (FYI :) )
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Do you by your adopted pattern mean your favorite CPK or ... ?

I have the EDC1 and FK but strongly suspect, that the HDFK will be my favorite/most used CPK for what I use knives for - time will tell.
 
Dabling,

If you looked at how the proxying works, you'd realize that it actually provides folks an opportunity to get a CPK without the markup.

The folks gracious enough to make the attempt for someone else are doing so to help someone else obtain a CPK, who otherwise may not have a chance (several of us work jobs that always have us on the road during the sales. Others don't have a decent enough connection to have a chance).

The folks willing to proxy either already have the model of knife in the sale (and know from past experience, that they have a decent chance at getting in), aren't looking to purchase this particular model, or even on occasion, willing to give up the opportunity to someone else, while waiting for a later opportunity to buy one for themselves.

The proxies are simply reserving the spots for other members, and they aren't upcharging to do this.

The higher prices you see on the secondary market tend to either be 'catch and release', or folks who bought 2, with the intent of keeping one and selling the other, so in effect, the proxies actually take spots away from that during the sales, if anything, as most of the folks asking for someone to proxy for them, are the ones trying to get one for themselves, not to resell.


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BTW, while not necessary, showing support for the site with a membership also tends to make folks more likely to offer to proxy for you. It's a small friendly community, based around a great little company.

(I also need to learn to keep my trap shut about the company until I've acquired all the CPKs I personally want lol:p. I can't help myself though. Every time someone asks for a knife recommendation, I refer them to the CPK vs nails and concrete videos and then there's more competition).
 
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I also think that the aforementioned Gents had perhaps misunderstood and / or misconstrued the details of proxy buying. In a nutshell, it's not for profits and if someone tries to profit from this method through the backchannels, he will be soon exposed. Because CPK collects the funds directly from the proxied-for-buyer and ships directly to that payor/purchaser, there are no middlemen.
 
I have only gotten into CPK in the last months of 2017 and have been looking for my chance to land a HDFK although being in Australia ive buggered the last two sales thinking they were at 6am when they were in fact at 5am. I think its great that people offer to and are allowed to proxy for others as if the sales occurred at a different time that i couldn't make I would absolutely want someone to proxy for me. I can understand why someone who misses out to a proxy might be annoyed as the person who is getting their knife wasnt even there for it but I reckon if you were in the position of someone who could never make the sales you wouldn't be poking a stick at the proxies.
 
Casinostocks said:
I also think that the aforementioned Gents had perhaps misunderstood and / or misconstrued the details of proxy buying. In a nutshell, it's not for profits and if someone tries to profit from this method through the backchannels, he will be soon exposed. Because CPK collects the funds directly from the proxied-for-buyer and ships directly to that payor/purchaser, there are no middlemen.
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I can only speak for myself but can back the above statement up.

Casinostocks proxy'ed for me but I communicated directly with CPK/Jo and neither funds nor knife went though any proxy.

Bottom line, the knife was sold by CPK to a customer (me) who will use the knife for its intended purpose - end result in no way different than had I got in line in the sales thread and bought the knife myself without a proxy.

 
In actuality im going on holidays for a week and wont be able to get in on the last HDFK sale so ive asked my friend if they'd give it a shot on my account but considering she's never had any experience with it i might end up asking for someone to proxy instead so theres no way ill ever be knocking the proxy system as it might end up getting me the knife ive been dreaming about for quite some time
 
Slayer_Slaine said:
In actuality im going on holidays for a week and wont be able to get in on the last HDFK sale so ive asked my friend if they'd give it a shot on my account but considering she's never had any experience with it i might end up asking for someone to proxy instead so theres no way ill ever be knocking the proxy system as it might end up getting me the knife ive been dreaming about for quite some time
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We now have an unofficial thread for that :)

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/sale-proxy-requests.1564977/
 
Slayer_Slaine said:
I can understand why someone who misses out to a proxy might be annoyed as the person who is getting their knife wasnt even there for it but I reckon if you were in the position of someone who could never make the sales you wouldn't be poking a stick at the proxies.
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Right.

In my case, it was the way to obtain a knife, that i dearly wanted but were unable to 'compete' for at the time.

Let me also add, that I asked politely, if someone might be bothered to proxy and a forum member likewise politely answered in the affirmative.

A polite request in the appropriate subforum might be the way ahead for the member in spite of current opposition to the proxy concept.

I can certainly relate to the frustration re not getting a quality knife, one has had a hankering for.

Last but not least: All respect to all forum member no matter their membership status but as others have touched upon, a paid membership might smooth things along a it goes a way of showing ones support of the forum.

BF is open to all who follow the rules - paid membership or not - and I certainly find the point of bringing that up in internet spats for moronic (not hinting at anybody in this thread nor in the CPK forum but elsewhere on the forum) - but in this case it might be, what makes a forum member go out of their way for a complete stranger.
 
bluemax_1 said:
I also need to learn to keep my trap shut about the company until I've acquired all the CPKs I personally want lol:p. I can't help myself though. Every time someone asks for a knife recommendation, I refer them to the CPK vs nails and concrete videos and then there's more competition.
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I do the same:D

We really should hush;)
 
abbydaddy said:
And the end result was that even though we BOTH landed a slot, we BOTH vacated our spots because that is the kind of people that hang out here on the regular (I have offered to proxy again on the next sale because I feel bad that the man missed out on two chances to land an HDFK).
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Had I been Jim I would not have vacated one spot. That was an honest mistake, and of course you were just trying to be helpful abbydaddy. It's not like we are all sitting around on a big conference call and in constant communication all the time, miscommunication happens. I hope the controversy didn't take the wind out of his sails because the both of you are good folks.

Shark01 Shark01 Jim, if you don't have a D3V HDFK yet (I can't keep up on who has what anymore :D ) I'll let a terotuf one go at cost.
 
Hard Knocks said:
Had I been Jim I would not have vacated one spot. That was an honest mistake, and of course you were just trying to be helpful abbydaddy. It's not like we are all sitting around on a big conference call and in constant communication all the time, miscommunication happens. I hope the controversy didn't take the wind out of his sails because the both of you are good folks.

Shark01 Shark01 Jim, if you don't have a D3V HDFK yet (I can't keep up on who has what anymore :D ) I'll let a terotuf one go at cost.
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If & when Bob retires in his unofficial capacity as the CPK-Curator, you should have enough CPKs at your disposal by then to pick up the slack. I shall then rename you as CPK-West :D
 
Hard Knocks said:
Had I been Jim I would not have vacated one spot. That was an honest mistake, and of course you were just trying to be helpful abbydaddy. It's not like we are all sitting around on a big conference call and in constant communication all the time, miscommunication happens. I hope the controversy didn't take the wind out of his sails because the both of you are good folks.

Shark01 Shark01 Jim, if you don't have a D3V HDFK yet (I can't keep up on who has what anymore :D ) I'll let a terotuf one go at cost.
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Mat, that is a very considerate gesture but I’m ok. I appreciate your thoughtfulness.

The prior proxy issue was every bit as much my fault. Abbydaddy had graciously offered a proxy to the board in general and I waited to see if anyone else wanted to take him up on it before I responded. I waited too long and asked him at the last minute. Most of the confusion stemmed from me waiting so long to respond. I appreciate what he did and I was fine with passing the spot as others had done for me in the past.

This is really a remarkable group here that has been very considerate and helpful to all. It’s a pleasure being part of this forum and Nathan and Jo should be just as proud of the great community of Carother’s enthusiasts represented here as they are of their phenomenal blades.
 
Shark01 said:
Nathan and Jo should be just as proud of the great community of Carother’s enthusiasts represented here as they are of their phenomenal blades.
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I am, we are. Knife collecting is supposed to be fun. I appreciate the camaraderie, mature conversation, relatively high intelligence and relatively low drama of the folks around here. This has become a cool place. :thumbsup:
 
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