The Official ZT0562 Thread!! (FIRST LOOK)

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Thanks Jimmer. Looks like a very nice knife and I'm very excited for this one. If you need any testers don't think you'd be a bother asking me.
 
ZT 0562m390cf = perfection. :thumbup::thumbup: on every one of those features. I get more excited about this one every time I come back to it. Got a pair on pre-order, and there's no way they'll arrive soon enough. Good on ZT, and thanks, Jim, for detailing out all these features, and the logic behind them. I think this one is a grand slam.
 
jimmer_5 said:
OK, a few facts on this one for those who didn't get to SHOT show and haven't seen the videos. We love the 0560 and still do. However, when we worked with Rick on the 0562 design, we decided to try to incorporate feedback from our customers to try and make it even better. in the end, it's a different knife - flat scales, new grind, new clip, etc. I still hope everyone buys both an 0560 and an 0562. However, I really like the new features we incorporated in the 0562, and I think most users will like them as well.

1. The thumbstud / stop pin debate:



Yes, we intend these to be dedicated blade stops, not thumb studs.



This is exactly correct - people were frustrated with the knife being hard to open with the thumbstuds, so we decided to make them a ONLY function as stop pin.



I understand that some will miss the thumbstud option, but it is very difficult to make every knife open exactly the same on a mass production level. We continue to work on improving this process, but this time around we decided that this knife would just be a flipper. The thumbstud is purposely conical on top and narrow. In this instance, it is solely intended to be used as a stop pin.


2. Slicer Grind - The slicer grind has been really popular for Rick, and we like it too. It makes the flat grind slice better, but the blade is still thick and tough. It's a nice new option.

3. No jimping by the flipper in the closed position - We made the top of the handle smooth because we'd heard some people didn't like catching the jimping on the handle when they pull the flipper to open the knife.

4. Smaller/Slimmer - The 0560 is a little big for some people because, well, it's a big knife. The 0562 is a really nice size, and ti's also a lot slimmer in the pocket.

5. New deep carry clip - The new clip is low profile and carries nice and deep. It is also clearly inspired by Rick's standard XM-18 clip. Another nod to Rick's style.

6. Hardened steel lockbar insert - Replaceable and reduces the chance of lockbar stickiness. We've been useing these more and more often, and they've been working out well.

7. Oversized decorative pivot hardware - not a functional upgrade, but adds a cool custom look.

8. M390 / Carbon Fiber - Lots of people asked for these things, and now they're available in a production piece. And the price is till quite reasonable in my humble (and biased :) ) opinion.

9. Price - The Elmax version is $250 and the M390 version is $300. Street prices will likely be about 20% less than that. Bang for your buck should be high with these two pieces.

10. 0562 versus 0566 - I am hearing a lot of this comparison in this thread, but bear in mind, these really are different animals. The 0566 is smaller, speedsafe, and a steel framelock. The 0562 is larger, thicker, and KVT. I sound like a shill here, but check them both out. They are both great EDC sizes, but they are more different than it appears on paper.


Anyhow, that's how I see it. :)
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Thank you very much for chiming in :thumbup:

I think that's new offerings are going to sell like hot cakes.
 
I'm pretty happy with my 0566 for the time being
I'll be on the lookout for a 562 when the time comes :D
 
jimmer_5 said:
OK, a few facts on this one for those who didn't get to SHOT show and haven't seen the videos. We love the 0560 and still do. However, when we worked with Rick on the 0562 design, we decided to try to incorporate feedback from our customers to try and make it even better. in the end, it's a different knife - flat scales, new grind, new clip, etc. I still hope everyone buys both an 0560 and an 0562. However, I really like the new features we incorporated in the 0562, and I think most users will like them as well.

1. The thumbstud / stop pin debate:



Yes, we intend these to be dedicated blade stops, not thumb studs.



This is exactly correct - people were frustrated with the knife being hard to open with the thumbstuds, so we decided to make them a ONLY function as stop pin.



I understand that some will miss the thumbstud option, but it is very difficult to make every knife open exactly the same on a mass production level. We continue to work on improving this process, but this time around we decided that this knife would just be a flipper. The thumbstud is purposely conical on top and narrow. In this instance, it is solely intended to be used as a stop pin.


2. Slicer Grind - The slicer grind has been really popular for Rick, and we like it too. It makes the flat grind slice better, but the blade is still thick and tough. It's a nice new option.

3. No jimping by the flipper in the closed position - We made the top of the handle smooth because we'd heard some people didn't like catching the jimping on the handle when they pull the flipper to open the knife.

4. Smaller/Slimmer - The 0560 is a little big for some people because, well, it's a big knife. The 0562 is a really nice size, and ti's also a lot slimmer in the pocket.

5. New deep carry clip - The new clip is low profile and carries nice and deep. It is also clearly inspired by Rick's standard XM-18 clip. Another nod to Rick's style.

6. Hardened steel lockbar insert - Replaceable and reduces the chance of lockbar stickiness. We've been useing these more and more often, and they've been working out well.

7. Oversized decorative pivot hardware - not a functional upgrade, but adds a cool custom look.

8. M390 / Carbon Fiber - Lots of people asked for these things, and now they're available in a production piece. And the price is till quite reasonable in my humble (and biased :) ) opinion.

9. Price - The Elmax version is $250 and the M390 version is $300. Street prices will likely be about 20% less than that. Bang for your buck should be high with these two pieces.

10. 0562 versus 0566 - I am hearing a lot of this comparison in this thread, but bear in mind, these really are different animals. The 0566 is smaller, speedsafe, and a steel framelock. The 0562 is larger, thicker, and KVT. I sound like a shill here, but check them both out. They are both great EDC sizes, but they are more different than it appears on paper.


Anyhow, that's how I see it. :)
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Is there any chance of all at seeing a comparison picture between the 0560, 0562, and 0566???? :)
 
They definitely hit it out of the park with these two. And with only a $40 difference the choice is obvious :thumbup: just put my preorder in :D
 
I have to say, a Ti flipper framelock with M390, a performance-orientied grind, CF handle scales, steel lock insert, a bearing pivot, and one of the best warranties in the business... For $240? That's craziness.

I've never pre-ordered a knife before now. I've handled several customs, but ZT still beats the tolerances nine times out of ten. I got an 0600 a few days ago, and, if the blade length laws were different where I live, I would sell every other main-carry knife I own. Centered, pretty, functional. perfect lockup, perfect flipping action... Zero Tolerance is very quickly making customs redundant as far as build quality and materials go. Topping it off is a warranty that will absolutely beat any makers' warranty in cost of work and is much less likely to end when a single person either dies or goes out of the business.

I'm an unabashed fanboy of Zero Tolerance at this point. Good materials, good quality, good prices. I have a 110v bearing flipper with CF and a Ti framelock in my desk right now. Street value? $350. Elmax version with a blackwash DLC finish? $225. These are the kind of prices I would expect to see if knives went super mainstream. Knives are still a niche market with a (relatively) small but (impressively) demanding and dedicated market, and KAI is slaying it these days. I wrote off Kershaw ages ago with their meh steels and uninteresting designs, but they're absolutely dominating these days.

Yeah, this is a drunkenly-posted praise post, but it's honest. Thank you, ZT, for making premium materials and quality control available at a price that is more than reasonable.

(I'll take an 0800. Just PM me for my address.)
 
Drunkenly posted praise post or not, I'll raise you a glass of whatever you're drinking. I agree. A toast to ZT.
 
Good to here from you Jim. Thanks for taking the time to drop by and weigh in on the new model. Hope all is well with you.
 
Comeuppance said:
I have to say, a Ti flipper framelock with M390, a performance-orientied grind, CF handle scales, steel lock insert, a bearing pivot, and one of the best warranties in the business... For $240? That's craziness.

I've never pre-ordered a knife before now. I've handled several customs, but ZT still beats the tolerances nine times out of ten. I got an 0600 a few days ago, and, if the blade length laws were different where I live, I would sell every other main-carry knife I own. Centered, pretty, functional. perfect lockup, perfect flipping action... Zero Tolerance is very quickly making customs redundant as far as build quality and materials go. Topping it off is a warranty that will absolutely beat any makers' warranty in cost of work and is much less likely to end when a single person either dies or goes out of the business.

I'm an unabashed fanboy of Zero Tolerance at this point. Good materials, good quality, good prices. I have a 110v bearing flipper with CF and a Ti framelock in my desk right now. Street value? $350. Elmax version with a blackwash DLC finish? $225. These are the kind of prices I would expect to see if knives went super mainstream. Knives are still a niche market with a (relatively) small but (impressively) demanding and dedicated market, and KAI is slaying it these days. I wrote off Kershaw ages ago with their meh steels and uninteresting designs, but they're absolutely dominating these days.

Yeah, this is a drunkenly-posted praise post, but it's honest. Thank you, ZT, for making premium materials and quality control available at a price that is more than reasonable.

(I'll take an 0800. Just PM me for my address.)
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More posts like this and few less detractors and the powers that be might not have yanked the plug on the Kershaw/ZT forum.
 
I was wondering why there was no Kershaw/ZT forum... pre dates me on this BBS I guess. Well, allow me to express thanks. Had a question about speeding up my 566 today, customer service (Eric?) couldn't have been nicer, explained things more thoroughly. My first ZT purchase soon to be followed by an 801 and on the list for a 0562. Much humble gratitude from this newbie....

Matt Peyton
www.peyton.com
 
LOL, there was a very active Kershaw/ZT subforum here up until they shut it down last year. I think it had to do with too many people complaining when tentative release dates came and went without any product hitting the shelves. It was fun while it lasted though.

BTW Matt, very nice portfolio you have there! You've been fortunate to work with some really high profile clients I see. Good stuff! I'm just working on my photography website now too.
 
I am on pre order list for ZT I am wondering how the slicer blade compares to 560 blade in cutting and weight?
 
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