The Problem with Buck Liner Locks

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BuckShack said:
Well, the family members I was going to gift a 290 Rush knife are winners now. I am putting some mileage on the liner locks as we speak. Mine is on the far right with probably 1000+ flicks open. To it's left maybe 200 now (since this thread started) and to it's left brand new, which is how they arrived. Yes, they locked open. But really, look at them.

And that's a CRKT Squid on the far left so it's not just a Buck knife problem. And the AG Russell not pictured that almost took my finger off a few years ago, I did have to file it down to make it safe.

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My gf has my first Rush, it is perfect in craftsmanship, assisted open, and lockup.

The Rush in my second video locks up now, I think, with a normal spring open but not with a manual open. It is wearing in but I would have to dissasemble and file to fix it, which I won't do. I'll just send it in. You should too IMO.

Thanks for your input. I am growing tired. Have a good Sunday.
 
I think this will benefit all (including myself!). It's posted on the Buck website at https://www.buckknives.com/about-knives/usage-safety/


Usage & Safety
At Buck Knives, we encourage you to use your knife safely.

BUCK KNIFE SAFETY TIPS:

  • Always handle your knife with care!
  • Cut away from your body, not toward it.
  • If you drop your knife, let it fall. Don’t attempt to catch it.
  • Never run with a knife.
  • Don’t throw a knife to anyone. Hand it to them, handle first.
  • Never point a knife at anyone.
  • Do not use a locking blade if the lock will not lock open. Make sure the lock is working before using it.
  • Keep your knife folded or sheathed when carrying or storing.
  • Use a sharpening stone, not a power grinder to sharpen your knife. A power grinder can make the edge brittle and will void the warranty.
  • Use the right tool for the job.
  • Don’t use a knife for prying. It can cause the tip to break, possibly causing injury.
  • Use in a well-lit area, so you can see what you’re doing.
  • Do not use a knife on “live” electrical items like appliances.
  • Keep your knife clean, particularly the locking mechanism.
  • Keep your knife oiled and sharp. A sharp knife is safer than a dull one.
  • Don’t try fixing a Buck knife yourself. It is dangerous and voids the warranty.
  • If you get cut, seek first-aid immediately.
 
Stephen W Huyssoon said:
I'm sure Buck Knives is aware of the handle flex in the 293 and they haven't seen it as a problem so why would my little remarks make a difference? My knife, while I see this as a design defect, is probably not the norm for their production. And besides, I just wanted a little discussion on it to see what others thought, I didn't want all the back and forth with the Buck Defenders crew. There is maybe one page of useful discussion in this thread.

I will probably send it in for adjustment after awhile and we shall see how that changes the flex effect on the liner lock angle.

I do appreciate your genuine response.
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Absolute troll statement. You enjoy being annoying and the center of attention. That's why you come to the Buck house with your "problem" and "experiments" with #12 cut proof gloves. I've done the same with my bare hand, just keep your wee fingers out of the way sonny.

Both your knives held and didn't close...a little lock flex or lock rock is part of life with some-not all liner locks, if you don't like it, buy lockbacks or fixed blades. If the liner lock don't fail, it's a non-problem.

Get off your soapbox. Buck will fix it if you send it in...but you won't because you enjoying complaing and being the center of attention more than you enjoy the knife in your hand.

I had a custom Terzuola that would close with a spine whack. I was seriously pissed and put it a cigar box. Three months later I called him and he said send it in. I took it out of the box and it was fine, never had a problem again. Called again and we a laugh about my "magic box". Terzuola considered the master of the tactical liner lock. He didn't know what was going on, but I was happy the knife was now fine and it stayed that way.

My recently purchased Michel Zieba custom has early lockup, it's not a problem, my old one is the same way and hasn't moved in 2 years. Late lock up, early lock up, don't make no difference if it holds....Yes I admit it, I spinewhack, just not on the good furniture :)

If I was a dog, I'd probably bite you too, sometimes dogs just know...:)
 
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brownshoe said:
Absolute troll statement. You enjoy being annoying and the center of attention. That's why you come to the Buck house with your "problem" and "experiments" with #12 cut proof gloves. I've done the same with my bare hand, just keep your wee fingers out of the way sonny.

Both your knives held and didn't close...a little lock flex or lock rock is part of life with some-not all liner locks, if you don't like it, buy lockbacks or fixed blades. If the liner lock don't fail, it's a non-problem.

Get off your soapbox. Buck will fix it if you send it in...but you won't because you enjoying complaing and being the center of attention more than you enjoy the knife in your hand.

I had a custom Terzuola that would close with a spine whack. I was seriously pissed and put it a cigar box. Three months later I called him and he said send it in. I took it out of the box and it was fine, never had a problem again. Called again and we a laugh about my "magic box". Terzuola considered the master of the tactical liner lock. He didn't know what was going on, but I was happy the knife was now fine and it stayed that way.

My recently purchased Michel Zieba custom has early lockup, it's not a problem, my old one is the same way and hasn't moved in 2 years. Late lock up, early lock up, don't make no difference if it holds....Yes I admit it, I spinewhack, just not on the good furniture :)

If I was a dog, I'd probably bite you too, sometimes dogs just know...:)
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You aren't talking about nothing.
 
brownshoe said:
Absolute troll statement. You enjoy being annoying and the center of attention. That's why you come to the Buck house with your "problem" and "experiments" with #12 cut proof gloves. I've done the same with my bare hand, just keep your wee fingers out of the way sonny.

Both your knives held and didn't close...a little lock flex or lock rock is part of life with some-not all liner locks, if you don't like it, buy lockbacks or fixed blades. If the liner lock don't fail, it's a non-problem.

Get off your soapbox. Buck will fix it if you send it in...but you won't because you enjoying complaing and being the center of attention more than you enjoy the knife in your hand.

I had a custom Terzuola that would close with a spine whack. I was seriously pissed and put it a cigar box. Three months later I called him and he said send it in. I took it out of the box and it was fine, never had a problem again. Called again and we a laugh about my "magic box". Terzuola considered the master of the tactical liner lock. He didn't know what was going on, but I was happy the knife was now fine and it stayed that way.

My recently purchased Michel Zieba custom has early lockup, it's not a problem, my old one is the same way and hasn't moved in 2 years. Late lock up, early lock up, don't make no difference if it holds....Yes I admit it, I spinewhack, just not on the good furniture :)

If I was a dog, I'd probably bite you too, sometimes dogs just know...:)
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I think I might just make some more videos, I must really be on to something.
 
brownshoe said:
Absolute troll statement. You enjoy being annoying and the center of attention. That's why you come to the Buck house with your "problem" and "experiments" with #12 cut proof gloves. I've done the same with my bare hand, just keep your wee fingers out of the way sonny.

Both your knives held and didn't close...a little lock flex or lock rock is part of life with some-not all liner locks, if you don't like it, buy lockbacks or fixed blades. If the liner lock don't fail, it's a non-problem.

Get off your soapbox. Buck will fix it if you send it in...but you won't because you enjoying complaing and being the center of attention more than you enjoy the knife in your hand.

I had a custom Terzuola that would close with a spine whack. I was seriously pissed and put it a cigar box. Three months later I called him and he said send it in. I took it out of the box and it was fine, never had a problem again. Called again and we a laugh about my "magic box". Terzuola considered the master of the tactical liner lock. He didn't know what was going on, but I was happy the knife was now fine and it stayed that way.

My recently purchased Michel Zieba custom has early lockup, it's not a problem, my old one is the same way and hasn't moved in 2 years. Late lock up, early lock up, don't make no difference if it holds....Yes I admit it, I spinewhack, just not on the good furniture :)

If I was a dog, I'd probably bite you too, sometimes dogs just know...:)
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You would bite me too? You would come away from that missing more than an ear.
 
brownshoe said:
Absolute troll statement. You enjoy being annoying and the center of attention. That's why you come to the Buck house with your "problem" and "experiments" with #12 cut proof gloves. I've done the same with my bare hand, just keep your wee fingers out of the way sonny.

Both your knives held and didn't close...a little lock flex or lock rock is part of life with some-not all liner locks, if you don't like it, buy lockbacks or fixed blades. If the liner lock don't fail, it's a non-problem.

Get off your soapbox. Buck will fix it if you send it in...but you won't because you enjoying complaing and being the center of attention more than you enjoy the knife in your hand.

I had a custom Terzuola that would close with a spine whack. I was seriously pissed and put it a cigar box. Three months later I called him and he said send it in. I took it out of the box and it was fine, never had a problem again. Called again and we a laugh about my "magic box". Terzuola considered the master of the tactical liner lock. He didn't know what was going on, but I was happy the knife was now fine and it stayed that way.

My recently purchased Michel Zieba custom has early lockup, it's not a problem, my old one is the same way and hasn't moved in 2 years. Late lock up, early lock up, don't make no difference if it holds....Yes I admit it, I spinewhack, just not on the good furniture :)

If I was a dog, I'd probably bite you too, sometimes dogs just know...:)
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The two knives don't hold, that is the reason for this thread.

And no, I won't just go away.
 
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