The role of the collector

I don’t try to whoop myself into the steel! The HADO part just happens naturally. It's totally natural...

What I try to do is whoop the evil spirits out of the steel! :D
 
SO Rn,

You are saying when a maker tells you that they can put part of their "soul" into the blade, you believe them?

If that is so, exactly how many pieces of a makers soul can he impart into his blades before he has no soul?

Do you "qualify" for an after life experience if you only have 3/4 or 1/2 of a soul?

Can you make a deal with the devil for only half your soul?

If it is your immortal soul...how much can you give away while mortal and still reap the benefits post postmortem?

FWIW, I do believe that humans are capable of mental telepathy, ESP and a 6th sense with extended aura exists. To a degree.

It is not so much the expanding universe it is the humans CPU (brain) is evolving to utilize a greater percentage of its capability.

WWG
 
I do believe that some makers put something extra into their knives, but I don't believe it has anything to do with soul.

I don't know if D.E. Henry was scoundrel, but from what I have heard and read, he was pretty anti-social.
 
WWG,

Are you serious???

The tangent topic was science, not voodoo.;)

And, the only deal I could get with the devil was for the whole soul.:D

Then again, in the old sense of the words, a knife made without heart and soul is probably a very boring knife.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
I do believe that some makers put something extra into their knives, but I don't believe it has anything to do with soul.

I don't know if D.E. Henry was scoundrel, but from what I have heard and read, he was pretty anti-social.
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Keith, I think that the "something extra", has to do with the amount of hand work that the maker puts into it himself. The more intimate the maker can become with the process,… the better. It shows! :)

Aside from that, in doing business there has to be enough integrity on both sides in order for the deals to go through. If there wasn't enough integrity on both sides,... the custom knife industry could never have gotten as far as it has.
 
Anthony Lombardo said:
Well, I didn't want to type "asshole", but now you forced me.

What are your thoughts on DE Henry knives, AG? You have probably sold more than anyone else.
If he had been a warm and fuzzy guy, would his knives be worth more?
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Well, Ed and I were close friends until I suggested that a young maker would someday be as fine a maker as he was. Ed said "Not in 10,000,000,000 years" and refused to talk to me for more than 10 years.

Yes, if he had not offended, in one way or another, his entire customer base; I think his knives would be selling for twice or three times their current prices.

Ed could be his own worst enemy as can be many makers whose customers worship them. "Pride goes before a fall"

The simple fact is that Ed Henry never made even the poorest of livings as a knifemaker, he had a wife that supported him in his passion. The knifemaker he put down was able even then to make a bowie as well ground as Henry's and has always been able to feed his family with his knife work. His name is Robert "Bob" Dozier
 
"It is not so much the expanding universe it is the humans CPU (brain) is evolving to utilize a greater percentage of its capability.

WWG"

WHAT?
 
A. G. Russell said:
Well, Ed and I were close friends until I suggested that a young maker would someday be as fine a maker as he was. Ed said "Not in 10,000,000,000 years" and refused to talk to me for more than 10 years.

Yes, if he had not offended, in one way or another, his entire customer base; I think his knives would be selling for twice or three times their current prices.

Ed could be his own worst enemy as can be many makers whose customers worship them. "Pride goes before a fall"

The simple fact is that Ed Henry never made even the poorest of livings as a knifemaker, he had a wife that supported him in his passion. The knifemaker he put down was able even then to make a bowie as well ground as Henry's and has always been able to feed his family with his knife work. His name is Robert "Bob" Dozier
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There is a thing called “business etiquette“. It is very important in any business transaction to have mutual courtesy and respect with the people you are doing business with,… but it is not required for making the knives. I won’t do business with people who don’t have good business etiquette either. I don't see anything wrong with taking pride in that. :)
 
The business etiquette thing works both ways. It takes two to tango.

There really aren't many successful business people who don't realize this...
 
The collectors who have "better business etiquette",… get better deals and service. :)
 
Gee, and all this time I thought putting your heart and soul into a piece meant catching every little detail, & going the extra yard, as opposed to just pumping pieces out the door.

Being a good customer is such a simple thing to do, it would be silly not to.
 
Tai Goo said:
Etiquette (from dictionary.com):
3. the code of ethical behavior regarding professional practice or action among the members of a profession in their dealings with each other.

Business etiquette:
http://www.ravenwerks.com/practices/etiquette.htm
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The ethical behavior expected of knifemakers is really very simple: Keep your word, if you promise delivery in 6 months, make it in 5. If you fix a price deliver at that price.

If you treat your customers like you would like to be treated you cannot go far wrong.
 
A. G. Russell said:
The ethical behavior expected of knifemakers is really very simple: Keep your word, if you promise delivery in 6 months, make it in 5. If you fix a price deliver at that price.
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A.G.,

Obviously, I know what you mean, but if a maker gets sick, or has a bad problem, COMMUNICATING it to the buyer is key....stuff happens.

If there is going to be a price increase due to materials cost shooting up, COMMUNICATING this to the buyer, and offering options would be the key to proper business etiquette.

To do otherwise is NOT ethical behavior on the part of the maker.

IF the buyer has a change in financial situation, it behooves them to COMMUNICATE to the maker in a timely manner that there is an issue.

I would also add, that if the knife is shipped, that COMMUNICATING to the maker that it arrived safely and that you are happy, is key.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Ebbtide said:
Gee, and all this time I thought putting your heart and soul into a piece meant catching every little detail, & going the extra yard, as opposed to just pumping pieces out the door.

Being a good customer is such a simple thing to do, it would be silly not to.
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The process of making a custom knife is one thing. The business of selling a custom knife is another thing... Professional knifemakers have to do both. It's a lot of hard work!
 
Kohai999 said:
A.G.,

Obviously, I know what you mean, but if a maker gets sick, or has a bad problem, COMMUNICATING it to the buyer is key....stuff happens.

If there is going to be a price increase due to materials cost shooting up, COMMUNICATING this to the buyer, and offering options would be the key to proper business etiquette.

To do otherwise is NOT ethical behavior on the part of the maker.

IF the buyer has a change in financial situation, it behooves them to COMMUNICATE to the maker in a timely manner that there is an issue.

I would also add, that if the knife is shipped, that COMMUNICATING to the maker that it arrived safely and that you are happy, is key.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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STeven,

You are correct if stuff happens then do NOT dodge the customer, talk to him!

Increase in cost. If a price has been agreed to and a deposit made then the makers has obviously taken into account that possiblity and should keep his word.
 
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