The Sage Is Here!

Vivi said:
Why don't you people like having China or Taiwan stamped on the blade? Regardless of whether it's there or not, that's where it was made, and if it's a good enough knife for you to own and carry, why should it bother you? I'm proud to own knives from China and Taiwan that completely destroy the notion of those countries being incapable of making quality cutlery.
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Its just a pet peeve of mine. I personally don't like any markings on anything. I don't like to wear clothing that have slogans or the designer's name on it. I've always debadged my cars (debadge = removing car model info and stuff from exterior of car). And I'm not a fan of all the markings on a knife, such as: the manufacter's name, manufaturer's logo (i like the spyder, though), manufactured date, model name, designer's name, steel type, place of manufacture (though I do enjoy the usa, earth stamp), etc... Its just too much stuff, and to think that it inherently drives up the cost of the product. Ironically, this was the first time I wished the model name was on a blade, as sage is my nickname.

Personally, I don't care where its made, its a spyderco and I trust the company. But less stamps would be plus, and I find the way boker used that hidden part of the tang an elegant solution.
 
I'm similar but to a lesser extent. Most my Spydercos have been done tastefully IMO, and I too enjoy showing people the Earth stamp. The way they place the markings on the tang, as opposed to on ethe blade face like older military models works for me. Personally it bothers me when companies don't put the blade steel on their knives, such as lower priced Kershaws and all the knives I've owned from Buck in a 420 or 440 grade steel.
 
Vivi said:
I'm similar but to a lesser extent. Most my Spydercos have been done tastefully IMO, and I too enjoy showing people the Earth stamp. The way they place the markings on the tang, as opposed to on ethe blade face like older military models works for me. Personally it bothers me when companies don't put the blade steel on their knives, such as lower priced Kershaws and all the knives I've owned from Buck in a 420 or 440 grade steel.
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Hi Vivi,

When Spyderco began putting steels on their blades, it was an oddity. Even now, most companies don't. We believe that our customer would prefer to know.

sal
 
If its a Spyderco, it is good enough for me. I dont care where it is made. If Sal put his Seal of Approval on it, there shouldnt be any doubt of the Quality. I will be getting a Sage eventually, But My list of Spydie wants is as long as my arm!!!
 
I just got mine, and let me say, it is above and beyond what I expected! This thing is wicked slick with the carbon fiber and wont scratch up so easy like other carbon fiber handles! It also have a very similar look to it as my native III/native I and the new flag grind blade on the sage is probably very similar to the one on the new carbon fiber native!

P.S. diffently is spider sharp, I got a native III back from tom krien and the sage is diffently sharper then the flat grind from tom. (toms is very sharp as well, dont think that it's not!)
 
Neo said:
Could anybody show a pic of a Sage next to a Tenacious ?
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Here you go!

ten-sage-caly.jpg
 
Vivi said:
Why don't you people like having China or Taiwan stamped on the blade? Regardless of whether it's there or not, that's where it was made, and if it's a good enough knife for you to own and carry, why should it bother you? I'm proud to own knives from China and Taiwan that completely destroy the notion of those countries being incapable of making quality cutlery.
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I don't mind Taiwan because they are struggling for their freedom from the oppressive China. China is a different story. On 1-14-1971 my brother died in a fire fight in Viet Nam. This was a proxy war sponsored by China. Some things I just can't get over.
 
Vivi said:
Why don't you people like having China or Taiwan stamped on the blade? Regardless of whether it's there or not, that's where it was made, and if it's a good enough knife for you to own and carry, why should it bother you? I'm proud to own knives from China and Taiwan that completely destroy the notion of those countries being incapable of making quality cutlery.
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It's the pride of having "Golden, Colorado" on my Spyderco!!

Also, it's the price point of $100 and having Taiwan stamped on it. With it's
construction and carbon fiber handles I'm sure this wouldn't be possible but
hypothetically, if the Sage was well under $80 then there would be a lot less
complaints about the country of origin.

Nobody from what I can see is actually putting down the Sage coming from
Taiwan but it will always be a matter of taste for others like myself. It
certainly is a good buy to a certain market sector for the price with all of it's
bells and whistles.

Example:

Today I had $100 burning a hole in my pocket and I bought a Mini Dejavoo;
S30V, Titanium liner lock, G10, screw construction. I bought it on the spot once I
held it in my hand. Awesome US made knife and I kick myself for not buying
one sooner, waisting so much time trying to choose between the Delica 4 G10
or the Caly 3 in the last few weeks. Which BTW was money I was willing to
pay for the "Japan" knives. But, if Benchmade can do it.......

Right now we have enough problems over here in the US with the very weak
Dollar. I will support Spyderco by buying another UKPK but that is probably it
until something else comes out. I would love to see a screw construction,
steel liner, leaf blade (Caly 3/Delica G10) design made in Golden, CO.
 
J32A2 said:
Colorado, hell ya! Seki City, Japan absolutly, with all the sword making heritage. But Taiwan, no thanks. I've always like the design of the salsa, but never picked 1 up because of where it is made. I have well over 8K in spydies and not one will be from china or taiwan!
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The same idea here. However, I got a Salsa and I have to say I was impressed of how well made this knife is. The quality is at least as good as any Seki or Golden made Spydie.
After all, BMW makes car parts in China...
 
I have a question for those who have handled the Sage. Is it as easy to open left handed as it is right handed? I noticed that there is a bit of cutaway (for lack of a better term) next to the hole when opened right handed. Just curious. Not that I have handled all too many spyderco's, but, I was a bit reluctant about picking up a Seki model. Not sure why, but once I handled it all I can say is Wow. Same quality work as the one I have from CO.
 
mister_wilburn said:
I have a question for those who have handled the Sage. Is it as easy to open left handed as it is right handed?
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As a lefty, I can tell that it opens left handed just fine. Closing it (or any other righty liner lock) one handed is a little trickier. The best way I've found is to press the release with your index finger, and close the blade halfway by pushing the spine against your leg. You can then close it the rest of the way with your thumb in the Spyderhole.
 
I'm getting one! It's a Spyderco made with one of my favorite steel. And the handle is Carbon Fiber! You can't go wrong with this knife!! I'm all for it!

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Well, I think it looks just great, but unfortunately my funds are very limited these days. I'm waiting for an affordable FRN version of the forthcoming FFG Native. Hopefully, it won't be too long of a wait.

In the meantime, a razor sharp ZDP Caly Jr. remains my trusted daily companion. Things could be worse.

Btw, I just acquired an incredible kitchen knife from Japan, a "Yoshikane" with a laminated blade that has an SKD tool steel core which so far seems to be incredible stuff. Interestingly, and the reason I mention it in this thread, is because they discretely stamped "SKD" on the blade, perhaps influenced by Spyderco.
 
Just got confirmation that a couple of Sages are inbound to me as we speak! Looking forward to getting my hands on this one.

Pics when I get it:thumbup:

Cheers,
Jon
 
China is a different story. On 1-14-1971 my brother died in a fire fight in Viet Nam. This was a proxy war sponsored by China. Some things I just can't get over.
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Coop, I'm sorry about your brother, but that is just not a true comment. By the time your brother was killed, the DRV was receiving much more military backing from the USSR than the PRC.

I am strongly in favor of keeping a careful eye on the PRC, but most of the problems actually stemmed from deliberate refusal on MacArthur's part to obey direct orders in Korea, thereby threatening the PRC as a national entity.

John

(Sources: Max Hermansen, United States Military Logistics in the First Part of the Korean War, University of Oslo, 2000. “Chapter Two: Background”.
Michael M. Sheng, “China's Decision to Enter the Korean War”, Korea and World Affairs, Vol. XIX, No. 2, Summer 1995, Introduction.
Chen Ping, “Scholars Take Stock of Korean War”, 11 November 2000. China Internet Information Center, 26 November 2005. http://www.china.org.cn/e-America/features/scholar.htm
Zhai, Qiang, "Beijing and the American Conflict, 1964-1965: New Chinese Evidence." Cold War International History Project Bulletin (Winter 1995/96) #6-7, 233-50
“Report by the War Department of the General Staff, 25 April 1964”, New Chinese Documents on the Vietnam War, Translated by Qiang Zhai. 27 November 2005. http://wilsoncenter.org/index.cfm?topic_id=1409&fuseaction=library.document&id=244
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