The Spear for defense and food procurement

Has anyone had experience with the Cold Steel Bushman as an impromptu spear tip? Normally, I stay clear of Cold Steel, but it seems to be a reasonable design for such a use.
 
Mentor said:
Has anyone had experience with the Cold Steel Bushman as an impromptu spear tip? Normally, I stay clear of Cold Steel, but it seems to be a reasonable design for such a use.
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Never actually used it for a spear, but I have the Bushman and mini. They both work great for utility knives.

$20 out the door at most for either model for 1095 with a decent temper.
 
Skunk: "wolves growling in the background"

Contrary to popular belief there are no verified and documented cases of wolves ( canis lupus ) attacking and killing human beings.

On the subject of nuclear tipped spears, some Tops knives, and most Busse knives have a hole in the handle as well as a hole just behind the choil to facilitate lashing the knife securely to a shaft of some sort.

I'm rather perplexed that more manufacturers/makers haven't caught on and followed suit. It's simply a good idea for an hostile conditions knife.

Red
 
When I lived in Scotland and used to fishing and camping, a hunting guide made me a fishing spear using deer antler for the point. As most of the fast running water in the streams in Scotland have a rock base, a wood spear would break but, the antler was a lot harder. To cut the Antler to size in the wild, you need to take a stick that is white/red on the end from a fire and hold it against where you want to break the antler. Once you score it, tap it hard with a rock.

He used the small thin ends of the antler to make the point for fishing.
 
I know American indians used large spears to kill bears, the bear would raise up and the indian would put the spear against the ground and aim at the bears heart, when the bear fell down the weight of the bear would push the spear through. Vikings used to do the same thing but with horses. A large sharpened spear would stop a galloping horse.
 
xinel said:
I know American indians used large spears to kill bears, the bear would raise up and the indian would put the spear against the ground and aim at the bears heart, when the bear fell down the weight of the bear would push the spear through. Vikings used to do the same thing but with horses. A large sharpened spear would stop a galloping horse.
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What if the bear doesn't raise up? I have been involved in a little bear hunting with dogs and seen a few bayed. I have never seen one stand up, and I do not want to be mano a mano with a bear and a pointy stick, but better than nothing I suppose. Chris
 
Somebody likes to watch movies. :D

I am actually pretty sure it is a viable option. I would certainly try to make that option un-necessary.

Spear + bear = the availability of toothpcks for the bear to clean his teeth after eating you.:eek:

I agree the spear you have is a lot better than the one you don,t have. As it could be used for many things it does have its place. That place is as far away from bears as possible.


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It's actually not a bad idea for field use. One approach might be to select a good bayonet and attach the matching lug to the end of a walking staff and carry the bayonet on a sheath. You can configure it according to the need. A lot of wild boars are taken every year with spears some have tiped the scales at well over 400lbs.
 
Bors said:
A lot of wild boars are taken every year with spears some have tiped the scales at well over 400lbs.
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Really? Where would all of this be taking place? The only hogs I know of well over 400 pounds are raised on slop and killed with a 22 in the forehead, including hogzilla. Chris
 
The bayonet walking-stick thing is funny - and not a bad idea actually - just gonna be a little hard to explain. But very creative :thumbup:
 
Hey we are talking apples and oranges here. A hastily contrived spear or a well made bayonet pointed spear.

We have to keep things in perspective.I would wager that in survival situations there are many more of the former type of spears than the latter.

We often see a situation from our own point of view and thats it.

I have no doubt wild boar can be taken with a well made spear. I wouldn,t strap my becker necker to a tree branch and try to take down a tusker unless I was a mighty hungry camper. Rambo I aint.
 
Yeah you can kill pigs with a spear, or a pocket knife, or a baseball bat, as long a 2 or 3 good catch dogs have a hold of him........one on one is bit different though. Chris
 
runningboar said:
Really? Where would all of this be taking place? The only hogs I know of well over 400 pounds are raised on slop and killed with a 22 in the forehead, including hogzilla. Chris
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I couldn't tell you how it was raised or what the conditions were but the one comes to mind was pictured in an old Cold Steel catalog. If memory serves me correctly a person sent in the pics of a wild hog that he took with one of cold steels spears and it seems to me that it was over 400lbs.
 
If I know I am going into the woods I take a walking stick. I always keep at least a walking cane in my vehicles. And I always have a pocket knife. However, whenever I find myself in the woods without prior planning, the first thing I do is find a suitable walking stick.

While it is not inconcievable to run into a bear around here, the chances of running into a loose Bandog or a snake are allot higher. In every event, a good stick is good to have :thumbup:

A stick is just a spear without a point. The point problem can be "fixed" in a jiffy though. Perhaps at the first rest break.
 
Bors,

I didn't mean to call you out but I have been hunting pigs in South GA for the last 25 to 30 years, the pigs I hunt ancestors were brought over by the spaniards in the 14 and 1500s, and the biggest one I have ever seen on a scale weighed 327lbs. I believe that they get bigger but most of the ones that do are helped, if you know what I mean. Also hunting a pig with a spear is really no problem at all, with dogs, without, is a completely different story, I would bet good, hard, US currency that the guys on the cold steel video used a pack of hounds.

Chris
 
runningboar said:
Bors,

I didn't mean to call you out but I have been hunting pigs in South GA for the last 25 to 30 years, the pigs I hunt ancestors were brought over by the spaniards in the 14 and 1500s, and the biggest one I have ever seen on a scale weighed 327lbs. I believe that they get bigger but most of the ones that do are helped, if you know what I mean. Also hunting a pig with a spear is really no problem at all, with dogs, without, is a completely different story, I would bet good, hard, US currency that the guys on the cold steel video used a pack of hounds.

Chris
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No worries, I have never hunted pigs however, I have been giving it some thought though looks like a lot of fun. I agree with you they probably were helped and hunted with dogs.

I have heard stories of stick hunters treed because they missed, did not hit the mark or did not see the "other pigs". It sounds like an entirely different story without dogs.
 
Bottom line is that a wooden pointy stick, in a wilderness survival situation is better than none.

Yes, as pointed out, there is a fanciful notion that wolves don't attack or kill people. It's documented, they can and will.
perhaps the fact that they were driven almost to extinction take people's minds off of it, as historically, there just weren't many around, however, their populations are coming back on strong just like coyotes.

Even without bears and wolves, run across a rabid wild dog and you'll wish you had a long pointy stick.
 
I DVRed that show "I shouldn't be alive" about the father and son rafting in alaska who were stranded for 5 days with just the clothes on their backs. You can bet the last dollar to your name in the middle of know where with nothing but what I am wearing I am going to have at least one sharp stick. 6' of pointy stick peats the hell out of a pocket knife in my hand. Chris
 
SkunkWerX said:
Bottom line is that a wooden pointy stick, in a wilderness survival situation is better than none.

Yes, as pointed out, there is a fanciful notion that wolves don't attack or kill people. It's documented, they can and will.
perhaps the fact that they were driven almost to extinction take people's minds off of it, as historically, there just weren't many around, however, their populations are coming back on strong just like coyotes.

Even without bears and wolves, run across a rabid wild dog and you'll wish you had a long pointy stick.
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very well said skunk....:thumbup: great post... :D

greg lightfoot hunts hogs with 2 pit bulls, using the fine knives he makes... there are some pis on his website......

i hunt hogs with a 58# longbow... i always wish i could cary a spear too, while bowhunting.. bring it right down to the basics....:D

mike
 
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