The truth about Fällkniven S1 Pro

Yes, l got all this, you repeated it few times in the thread’and I did read it all. Still, it doesn’t change my opinion on FN, if they are not hiding country of origin, l don’t see how you can call it con but again - I’m fine with it, most people l know will laugh at it, l simply don’t care. The whole receipt and 10my warranty, well this is their terms, you have a choice - you either like the knife and agree with their terms, or disagree and buy something else. I think when we talking about top dollars knives, it’s always a compromise with something and again - it’s your choice to do it or not…
Quality and few bad apples IMO happen with every big company, also as I said in my post, I’m aware of very good copies sold in EU and this could be the case judging by the poor look inside the broken handle. And just like you, I’m sticking to my opinion. Cheers !
 
brownshoe said:
Country of origin is not given on their website. Their logo says sweden which is false, they are not swedish knives. The pictures of knives show no country of origin but the boxes say sweden. You get a 10y warranty only with an original receipt from an authorized dealer. If you live in the EU your warranty will only be honored if you buy in the EU. It's still a con :)
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This coming from the guy who claims to support this forum with his mind? That's the real con.

And by your logic, my Honda is an American car since it was made here. 'merica! am I right?

Honestly, they should be listing the country of origin, and who makes their knives, I actually think it would improve their reputation. That said, most dealers list the correct COO. Yes, their warranty and process surrounding said warranty is suspect at best, but that seems more to be a European thing than anything else. Always has been and it is clearly laid out. Still not a con. Sorry.
 
Let's put it this way.
Their customer policies do not reflect at all the image company portrays and what you would expect for a quality tool maker.

Saying it is a con would imply they do not even attempt to make quality product.

I re-read the thread and there have been a lot of people doubting the edge damage, my usecase or my motives. I say doubting is good but some of the posts literally suggested something malicious which tells me that they either are trolls or are emotially tied to the brand, which happens to all of us at some level, but brand is just a brand, a product of imagination as they are just as good as the last knife they made. But I see I should open the case from my side more.

The edge damage was shown in another thread but I had trouble getting good pictures. I think wiring is almost as good desription for how it felt, except it was rolled. Honestly, I am not knowledgeable with knives. I know how to sharpen knives to razor but I do not have cheap steels, S30V in pocket, Mac in kitchen and have used quality carbon steel knives, I have never had to have grinded one of them from DULL to sharp, I just keep stoning them with very fine grit once a while and maybe strop lightly.

So when I bought an expensive knife I really did not expect having to sharpen it for a long while. Maybe touch after a use or two but sharpen, no. When I saw the edge damage keep coming back after touching (few more intensive, I only had fine stones with me) I realized 2 options. Either keep stoning it or ask the manufacturer what's up. I chose to first ask the vendor as I figured being vendor for thousands of knives they probably have some hint of problem. I thought that if they want to inspect the knife I better let it stay as original as possible.

My usecase consists mainly of reservist shooting camps and trails. I have found batoning to be very useful way of making foremost tinder. Before or after FK, I have never had a new or used knife, stainless or carbon, had edge damaged from batoning.

My motive is primarily my feeling of being let down and how I saw the contrast between my expectations and reality when I saw the damage.
Then after the communication started with FK, the horror and then relievement once I was refunded. I have always bought quality tools and gear, owning more than 17K in guns and gear I have had all kinds of stuff happen and seen that all brands produce lemons and no doubt have stupid customers. They just have to play along and see to the end what the case is, it might be both.

I just checked the email conversation with the vendor. The vendor first said that they rarely get reclamations about FK, but later added that whenever they do get problems, FK is by far the hardest company to work with. He also said that the contact person at the FK is very unpolite.

And just to be clear, after the vendor WAS turned down by FK I contacted them and reported what had happened, suspecting some kind of miscommunication. But they just said that their knives arrive by the thousands and therefore if one were to be faulty, they would all be. I really have no idea how they are manufactured so I could not argue that point by knowledge and do not think it would be fruitful.

To be clear, they did not admit that I had a faulty knife, they just claimed that cutting 0.5 to 1" (1,2cm to 2,5cm) pieces from branchless birch was being too hard on it.

The vendor replied to this with: (translated) "...Nevertheless, this kind of knife should be able to handle freaking native birch! We will refund this to you and sort this out with them"

I asked him about 6 months later for any news about it and he said it is probably staying at the shelf.

Apologies for not sharing some information right at start, I hope this clears out the matter.
 
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craytab said:
This coming from the guy who claims to support this forum with his mind? That's the real con.

And by your logic, my Honda is an American car since it was made here. 'merica! am I right?

Honestly, they should be listing the country of origin, and who makes their knives, I actually think it would improve their reputation. That said, most dealers list the correct COO. Yes, their warranty and process surrounding said warranty is suspect at best, but that seems more to be a European thing than anything else. Always has been and it is clearly laid out. Still not a con. Sorry.
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No, my 92 honda is canadian and my 05 is english.
 
Knifegrabber said:
Let's put it this way.
Their customer policies do not reflect at all the image company portrays and what you would expect for a quality tool maker.

Saying it is a con would imply they do not even attempt to make quality product.

I re-read the thread and there have been a lot of people doubting the edge damage, my usecase or my motives. I say doubting is good but some of the posts literally suggested something malicious which tells me that they either are trolls or are emotially tied to the brand, which happens to all of us at some level, but brand is just a brand, a product of imagination as they are just as good as the last knife they made. But I see I should open the case from my side more.

The edge damage was shown in another thread but I had trouble getting good pictures. I think wiring is almost as good desription for how it felt, except it was rolled. Honestly, I am not knowledgeable with knives. I know how to sharpen knives to razor but I do not have cheap steels, S30V in pocket, Mac in kitchen and have used quality carbon steel knives, I have never had to have grinded one of them from DULL to sharp, I just keep stoning them with very fine grit once a while and maybe strop lightly.

So when I bought an expensive knife I really did not expect having to sharpen it for a long while. Maybe touch after a use or two but sharpen, no. When I saw the edge damage keep coming back after touching (few more intensive, I only had fine stones with me) I realized 2 options. Either keep stoning it or ask the manufacturer what's up. I chose to first ask the vendor as I figured being vendor for thousands of knives they probably have some hint of problem. I thought that if they want to inspect the knife I better let it stay as original as possible.

My usecase consists mainly of reservist shooting camps and trails. I have found batoning to be very useful way of making foremost tinder. Before or after FK, I have never had a new or used knife, stainless or carbon, had edge damaged from batoning.

My motive is primarily my feeling of being let down and how I saw the contrast between my expectations and reality when I saw the damage.
Then after the communication started with FK, the horror and then relievement once I was refunded. I have always bought quality tools and gear, owning more than 17K in guns and gear I have had all kinds of stuff happen and seen that all brands produce lemons and no doubt have stupid customers. They just have to play along and see to the end what the case is, it might be both.

I just checked the email conversation with the vendor. The vendor first said that they rarely get reclamations about FK, but later added that whenever they do get problems, FK is by far the hardest company to work with. He also said that the contact person at the FK is very unpolite.

And just to be clear, after the vendor WAS turned down by FK I contacted them and reported what had happened, suspecting some kind of miscommunication. But they just said that their knives arrive by the thousands and therefore if one were to be faulty, they would all be. I really have no idea how they are manufactured so I could not argue that point by knowledge and do not think it would be fruitful.

To be clear, they did not admit that I had a faulty knife, they just claimed that cutting 0.5 to 1" (1,2cm to 2,5cm) pieces from branchless birch was being too hard on it.

The vendor replied to this with: (translated) "...Nevertheless, this kind of knife should be able to handle freaking native birch! We will refund this to you and sort this out with them"

I asked him about 6 months later for any news about it and he said it is probably staying at the shelf.

Apologies for not sharing some information right at start, I hope this clears out the matter.
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So...you returned the knife to the Vendor and you received your refund? Is that correct?
 
Knifegrabber said:
Let's put it this way.
Their customer policies do not reflect at all the image company portrays and what you would expect for a quality tool maker.

Saying it is a con would imply they do not even attempt to make quality product.

I re-read the thread and there have been a lot of people doubting the edge damage, my usecase or my motives. I say doubting is good but some of the posts literally suggested something malicious which tells me that they either are trolls or are emotially tied to the brand, which happens to all of us at some level, but brand is just a brand, a product of imagination as they are just as good as the last knife they made. But I see I should open the case from my side more.

The edge damage was shown in another thread but I had trouble getting good pictures. I think wiring is almost as good desription for how it felt, except it was rolled. Honestly, I am not knowledgeable with knives. I know how to sharpen knives to razor but I do not have cheap steels, S30V in pocket, Mac in kitchen and have used quality carbon steel knives, I have never had to have grinded one of them from DULL to sharp, I just keep stoning them with very fine grit once a while and maybe strop lightly.

So when I bought an expensive knife I really did not expect having to sharpen it for a long while. Maybe touch after a use or two but sharpen, no. When I saw the edge damage keep coming back after touching (few more intensive, I only had fine stones with me) I realized 2 options. Either keep stoning it or ask the manufacturer what's up. I chose to first ask the vendor as I figured being vendor for thousands of knives they probably have some hint of problem. I thought that if they want to inspect the knife I better let it stay as original as possible.

My usecase consists mainly of reservist shooting camps and trails. I have found batoning to be very useful way of making foremost tinder. Before or after FK, I have never had a new or used knife, stainless or carbon, had edge damaged from batoning.

My motive is primarily my feeling of being let down and how I saw the contrast between my expectations and reality when I saw the damage.
Then after the communication started with FK, the horror and then relievement once I was refunded. I have always bought quality tools and gear, owning more than 17K in guns and gear I have had all kinds of stuff happen and seen that all brands produce lemons and no doubt have stupid customers. They just have to play along and see to the end what the case is, it might be both.

I just checked the email conversation with the vendor. The vendor first said that they rarely get reclamations about FK, but later added that whenever they do get problems, FK is by far the hardest company to work with. He also said that the contact person at the FK is very unpolite.

And just to be clear, after the vendor WAS turned down by FK I contacted them and reported what had happened, suspecting some kind of miscommunication. But they just said that their knives arrive by the thousands and therefore if one were to be faulty, they would all be. I really have no idea how they are manufactured so I could not argue that point by knowledge and do not think it would be fruitful.

To be clear, they did not admit that I had a faulty knife, they just claimed that cutting 0.5 to 1" (1,2cm to 2,5cm) pieces from branchless birch was being too hard on it.

The vendor replied to this with: (translated) "...Nevertheless, this kind of knife should be able to handle freaking native birch! We will refund this to you and sort this out with them"

I asked him about 6 months later for any news about it and he said it is probably staying at the shelf.

Apologies for not sharing some information right at start, I hope this clears out the matter.
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Wow. Thanks for sharing that. Good on the vendor for making things right.
 
353 said:
That has got to be BULL SHIT.

Unless you have pictures of the correspondence...
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Danke42 said:

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I dont think you read my post.

It's hard to believe that a FK rep said that cutting or chopping 1" pieces of wood is to hard on the knife.

Do you believe that?
 
Just copied this from Fallknivens website. The warranty used to be only two years. LoL. Also they used to have on their website that chopping voids the warranty. I think they removed that though.

Warranty​

Each new knife from Fällkniven AB is covered with a ten year warranty. Fällkniven AB warrants to the original owner that Fällkniven knives purchased from authorized dealers will be free from defects in materials and workmanship. Fällkniven AB will without charge, repair or replace at our option, any knife returned for warranty work and found to be defective by us.

The blade tip and edge are parts of a knife which normally are exposed to wear and tear, these parts are not covered by our warranty unless it’s obvious that the damage is a result of a material defect. Only when we have examined the knife we are able to have an opinion about that.

The Fällkniven AB warranty only applies to Fällkniven knives purchased from authorized Fällkniven dealers, make sure you save the receipt. Products purchased on the Internet through discount websites or through any other unauthorized source are not entitled to our warranty coverage. For the EU market: Products bought by EU citizens within the EU market are covered by our ten year warranty. Products bought by EU citizens from outside EU (grey-import) are not covered by any warranty.
 
353 said:
I dont think you read my post.

It's hard to believe that a FK rep said that cutting or chopping 1" pieces of wood is to hard on the knife.

Do you believe that?
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I believe FK denied warranty because they thought whatever the user did was too much for the knife. The user claimed to be doing that sort of cutting. They likely did not believe the user and denied the warranty.

See how all that could be true?

At the end of the day, the dealer did believe the user and took care of him.
 
353 said:
I dont think you read my post.

It's hard to believe that a FK rep said that cutting or chopping 1" pieces of wood is to hard on the knife.

Do you believe that?
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No I don't.

Like I said, a lot of troubles packed into one knife.
 
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Danke42 said:
No I don't.

Like I said, a lot of troubles packed into one knife.
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I'm not a FK fanboy or anything, but with that kind of claims I would like to see some picures from the mail correspondence with Fällkniven. I know the OP would have to get that from his dealer and that might be problematic.

But it's just to easy for someone to post what someone else said without backing it up.

Anyways, it's a good thing the dealer took it back.
 
For me a knife is only used for cutting, slicing.
I never like knives with a high HRC This H1 is only used for cutting
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Danke42 said:
Wow; sworn statement on imgur. That'll stand up anywhere.

Case Closed!
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Yes, I’m sure he’s fabricated this mundane story and took the time to write out several paragraphs of a false conversation. That’s much more likely than receiving a dud, right? The conspiracy against Fällkniven is REAL!!
 
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