The truth about Fällkniven S1 Pro

[Londinium Armoury]

That particular model has the LamCoS steel, the micarta models use the 3g steel.

I just came across a FK slipjoint that's going for very cheap, it's using the laminated 3G steel as well, thought you might want to check it out. it's the FK LTC series. I think that's currently the best priced offering using the 3G steel.

 

[jfk1110]

I just came across a FK slipjoint that's going for very cheap, it's using the laminated 3G steel as well, thought you might want to check it out. it's the FK LTC series. I think that's currently the best priced offering using the 3G steel.

I've been a fan of Fallkniven for years and have had a bunch! I've sold most off and am down to a volcano in LamCoS and a juni in 3g....

 

[DPC]

I think more people are happy with the Fallkniven knives than those that are not. Perhaps the many post that state issues are reflecting oh say ....a 10% customer problem with FK. Being that many haven’t posted and how many many many knives they have sold, I’m curious how other companies compare to the customer problems. Busse, Randall, BRK, buck, Cold steel misc.- It’s not like those companies have never had a issue ?!?!?!
Just want to compare Apples to Apples?
what y’all Think?

I've been a fan but no longer, I've had five models, down to just one (G1). I think they're overpriced and overmarketed for what they are. They are high quality well finished utilitarian japanese knives, the likes of Hattori but simpler. They're not luxury apocalypse end of the world knives, and they're not even nobility when it comes to abuse in a non-nordic environment (where there's lots of wood). For a knife that is a beater, the S1 may be more refined in terms of shapes and design, but as someone has previously stated, a cheaper Cold Steel SRK will surpass the toughness to beatings easily. Fallknivens are tough as thick kitchen knives are tough, but they're very outclassed in terms of modern "extreme" use (Busse, Carothers etc...). In fact if you look at the AllOutdoor tests, the knives take a beating and endure, but the edge quickly goes down the drain.

I must make clear that I think they're high (or very high) quality knives, but very expensive in comparison to what you get with other brands. And I think the "Pro" line has one of the most misguided marketing for any famous knife nowadays, since the edges still chip, they're super expensive (they come with a sort of Pelikan case lol), super thick (but still have the decaying rubber handle) and just not up to par with other similar knives (Busse , Carothers, Swamp Rat, TRC...)

 

[Lnd Crzr]

Very Good perspective DPC- criticism and A optimism viewpoint. The Price of some of the models you talk about are surpassing what the Fallkniven charge. Don’t want to discuss Cold steel vs Fallkniven- however, I disagree. The Fallkniven A1 pro vs the Srk? Very close and depending on who you ask-(DBK?) The A1 is better.
Busse are expensive to say the least. Yet I do understand what your saying. If I could get another $500 knife, I would.... yet $300 for a A1 seems to make sense to me. They have been regarded as A high quality knife- and if we look at it like that, That’s a high quality knife price. It’s not exactly pretty- yet tuff.

 

[Lnd Crzr]

Don’t misunderstand me- I understand your view

 

[gorbypirogen]

I had only but issues with the S1 Pro. After about 10 uses the tip broke straight off. I used it the same way that my previous knife (a basic mora 2000 that I had for 10 years without any problems at all). Fällkniven said it was my fault and that they could see on the photos I sent them that there were no metal flaws.

I call compete bullshit on that one. Will never ever get a Fällkniven again. Complete garbage (the sheath is also useless, not ambidextrous and can’t be used with a lanyard stringed to the knife). Avoid at all cost.

 

[Knifegrabber]

I had only but issues with the S1 Pro. After about 10 uses the tip broke straight off. I used it the same way that my previous knife (a basic mora 2000 that I had for 10 years without any problems at all). Fällkniven said it was my fault and that they could see on the photos I sent them that there were no metal flaws.

I call compete bullshit on that one. Will never ever get a Fällkniven again. Complete garbage (the sheath is also useless, not ambidextrous and can’t be used with a lanyard stringed to the knife). Avoid at all cost.

Now that I have Dulo knife for 2/3 of S1 Pro price I fail to see any reason to buy one from them.

The mere fact that their warranty is practically non-existent tells a lot. I believe every company is either making their name of living off of it. Without doubt I would say that at the moment FK is doing the latter.

 

[Natlek]

Well , here is famous Fallkniven quality ..................Good luck with this design of tang on 600 $ knife .Personally i would not pay 10 $ for this one !

Fallkniven volcano tang!!! Weak?

So the other day I was batonning with my volcano, when I heard what sounded like a hollow sound, I stopped to check and realized the cocobolo handle had split length wise the whole way down! So rather than send it back to Sweden, I decided to buy a block of g10. So today I took apart the wood...

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[KenHash]

None of the Fallkniven F1, S1, or A1s in original, Pro, Sx versions have a rat tail tang.

The photo is of a Volcano hunting knife that was used to baton multiple logs, a task for
which was never designed. The tang did not fail, the handle cracked and the owner
simply replaced the handle.

 

[craytab]

Well , here is famous Fallkniven quality ..................Good luck with this design of tang on 600 $ knife .Personally i would not pay 10 $ for this one !

Fallkniven volcano tang!!! Weak?

So the other day I was batonning with my volcano, when I heard what sounded like a hollow sound, I stopped to check and realized the cocobolo handle had split length wise the whole way down! So rather than send it back to Sweden, I decided to buy a block of g10. So today I took apart the wood...

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Any excuse to throw some shade...

And I call bs. You absolutely would pay $10 if you came across that knife in the wild. Any of us would.

I've always stayed away from Fallkniven because of their warranty, issues around how said warranty is handled, and all the reports of chipping. Seems like too many chefs in the kitchen to me (made in Japan, Swedish company, sold by US dealers).

That said, all this hyperbolic nonsense of a con job or poor quality/design is just that. You know what you are getting when you buy a fallkniven. They aren't hiding anything. Vg10 on a survival knife might chip, and a hunting knife batoned hard might break. I mean, duh.

 

[herisson]

Yes, right, but that stick tang job is horrific. Even the threaded part looks garbled. A positive thought, though : I lust no longer after a Volcano.

 

[Natlek]

Any excuse to throw some shade...

And I call bs. You absolutely would pay $10 if you came across that knife in the wild. Any of us would.

I've always stayed away from Fallkniven because of their warranty, issues around how said warranty is handled, and all the reports of chipping. Seems like too many chefs in the kitchen to me (made in Japan, Swedish company, sold by US dealers).

That said, all this hyperbolic nonsense of a con job or poor quality/design is just that. You know what you are getting when you buy a fallkniven. They aren't hiding anything. Vg10 on a survival knife might chip, and a hunting knife batoned hard might break. I mean, duh.

Same year ago I had the opportunity to hold that knife in my hand in store in Wien. With 7 mm. spine it look like you can stuck that blade between some rocks and use it as anchor to pull your Land cruiser from mud !
You don t make knife from 7mm steel usable for cutting sausage on a picnic ! That knife should have strong reliable tang .Wood on handle on ANY knife should be there just to make handle comfortable to hold .And even if wood crack or break that knife should still be usable in emergency situation! Any knife is enough good for ordinary task and to slice sausages for grilling , but when ***** hit the FAN I want that 600 $ knife to be capable to do little more then that ! I will survive if edge chip , roll on edge but without handle ??? They ask 600 $ for that knife and they weld nut on 2 inch long and thin tang ??? Do you hear Fallkniven ? Don t spare on steel !! WE pay that !!
I think i make one knife like what I want to have when **** hit the fan.This is 6mm thick blade on spine ,Yakut stile knife .This is tang and this is handle .If you intentionally want to destroy the handle it will require a lot of effort and time and again the knife will be usable.
First i mold carbon fiber on ricasso side ,look at that tang

Then i make wood handle from walnut/tight fit/ and finished end of handle with carbon fiber molded direct on tang at butt.Of curse there are notches on tang so carbon can hold strong...

 

[Jacques Mi]

I have the F1 in VG10 and I have never had any issues with it whatsoever. From cutting wood to battoning it does a remarkable job. Plus it easy to sharpen and holds an edge well.
Because of my impression of the F1 I ordered the GP straight from the Fallkniven web-store and that's where my issues with the company begins.
Upon arrival I immediately noticed that the blade wasn't straight when opened but about 5 mm off. It was dead centered when closed though. Everything else seemed perfect, smooth action and so on. Nonetheless, I thought that I just got a bad lemon, especially considering the price of the knife, so I contacted Fallknivens customer support which lightly described became the owner ridiculing me from his very first reply. I decided to have the knife refunded instead of replaced.
I'm sure that I just got a bad lemon and that the GP is a great knife but dealing with a company that seems to have pride issues and will mock its customers - it's not for me.
Pics of the described issue with the knife (in hindsight i should have used a red pen instead of blue)
.

 

[craytab]

Yes, right, but that stick tang job is horrific. Even the threaded part looks garbled. A positive thought, though : I lust no longer after a Volcano.

I don't know. Looks dirty from manufacture and epoxy to me. Hard to tell if it is actually a structural problem, especially with the ricaso/guard area covered. Keep in mind it is a hunting/skinning knife. I don't see an issue using that type of construction given the intended use. Right tool, right job type of thing.

Same year ago I had the opportunity to hold that knife in my hand in store in Wien. With 7 mm. spine it look like you can stuck that blade between some rocks and use it as anchor to pull your Land cruiser from mud !
You don t make knife from 7mm steel usable for cutting sausage on a picnic ! That knife should have strong reliable tang .Wood on handle on ANY knife should be there just to make handle comfortable to hold .And even if wood crack or break that knife should still be usable in emergency situation! Any knife is enough good for ordinary task and to slice sausages for grilling , but when ***** hit the FAN I want that 600 $ knife to be capable to do little more then that ! I will survive if edge chip , roll on edge but without handle ??? They ask 600 $ for that knife and they weld nut on 2 inch long and thin tang ??? Do you hear Fallkniven ? Don t spare on steel !! WE pay that !!
I think i make one knife like what I want to have when **** hit the fan.This is 6mm thick blade on spine ,Yakut stile knife .This is tang and this is handle .If you intentionally want to destroy the handle it will require a lot of effort and time and again the knife will be usable.
First i mold carbon fiber on ricasso side ,look at that tang

Then i make wood handle from walnut/tight fit/ and finished end of handle with carbon fiber molded direct on tang at butt.Of curse there are notches on tang so carbon can hold strong...

TL;DR

 

[Oklahoma Outlaw]

Randall or GTFO.

 

[DMG]

When you can buy a Carothers for similar money you are a fool to buy a VG10 knife.

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

That is a strange looking Yakut.

 

[Natlek]

That is a strange looking Yakut.

Well , that is the knife i will grab when apocalypse come Maybe this little one Yakut too. I like that kind of grind ,make sense to me for knife as tool for everything not just as tool to cut paper and sausages.....Good knive should be average in any task , if it is excellent in one thing should fall in other task .....My philosophy after all these years on this forum .
That Volcano from Fallkniven to me look like Hummer dressed with tires from Yugo

And since we are talking about tang on knives..................if wood fall i will wrap my underwear and i will still have usable knife

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

Im not contesting in any way, just the clasic Yakut l believe have much more pronounced hollw part and not much of a flat area at the spine. I understan that you probably got it done according to yor ikings.
You ask me, for when SHTF ld probably go with a medium size Busse, Becker or Esee or any of the Kukri modern flavors. - CS, CRKT etc. but this is just me...
I sort of agree about the knife - Glock concept, not completely sold on the complaints about the FN, every one l know from EAstern EU that have the critisized models is very happy with them and they all are using it in very hars elements.
I dont take the con idea in any way since its clear, as many said that FN not hiding where the knives are manufacturing, for me most Japanese makets arectop notch, including the one that makes those models
I mostly tend to believe that good looking on outside knock offs found their wsy in the EU market and thats why you se those serious isdues but as many also brought it up - those are xceptilns and some of the models as the Volcano (?) are not really suitable for the tasks that damsage it...
I dont know, definetely another very interesting thread, l learned few things.
‘sorry for the typos, hitting all wrong buttons on a tablet I,m not used to…

 

[brownshoe]

Country of origin is not given on their website. Their logo says sweden which is false, they are not swedish knives. The pictures of knives show no country of origin but the boxes say sweden. You get a 10y warranty only with an original receipt from an authorized dealer. If you live in the EU your warranty will only be honored if you buy in the EU. It's still a con