The Ugly Stick

SilentJohn said:
What About a bow drill divot
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Yeah, that's on the list, too. It's not something that one would need most of the time, but when ya need it, ya need it. It's not really hard to incorporate, and this is a survival type implement, after all.:D
 
2 dawsonbob:
Thanks for greetings!
May be I made a mistake - officially only the second knife "machete Taiga":
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was made by Skrilev's company "NOKS".
You can find other his works here:

http://www.sarmik.ru/index.php?categoryID=95&category_slug=noks-kb-skryleva-nozhi&offset=30 - simply scroll through pages

http://noksknife.ru/index.php?id_page=4&id_kat=23&id_tov= - official "NOKS" site, but as I see now "Taiga" is discontinued for now or they just don't show it on the company page.

The second knife is made by "SARO" & is called "Expeditional knife".
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http://www.saro-vorsma.ru/cat.shtml?0-1 - official "SARO" site with several other knifes of this type.
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**Remember that all the dimensions are given in metric system: mm, cm.**

As for your Ugly Stick - I really like the 4th version:
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It would be great if the front part of the blade will have bigger angle for chopping than the end, which is used more for carving.
Also the saw on the spine is useless, but it was discussed several pages ago.
I would rather left one "hook-hole" (really don't know the exact word) for taking off pot from fire. I would also remove "glass-breaker" - it will be more convenient for handling in chopping mode. I have my BK-2 2nd gen with this breaker - I would prefer to use this knife without it - glass-breaker is making very uncomfortable grip while chopping when you hold knife only by the end of its handle.
Used KA-BAR Cutlass machete - very good thing! The blade shape is similar to the shape of the stick I mentioned below. But for serious work KA-BAR lacks thikness, few additional mm would be great.
Also 1095 is good for this Stick. Use 1095 CroVan or pure 1095 - is the matter of thinking.
Don't take me serious - I am new to all the knife things & I am in the beginning of my way))

P.S. Sorry for my English, it is not my native language.
бля, заебался переводить это всё
 
Camaro said:
2 dawsonbob:
Thanks for greetings!
May be I made a mistake - officially only the second knife "machete Taiga":
97a80d146d9f.jpg

was made by Skrilev's company "NOKS".
You can find other his works here:

http://www.sarmik.ru/index.php?categoryID=95&category_slug=noks-kb-skryleva-nozhi&offset=30 - simply scroll through pages

http://noksknife.ru/index.php?id_page=4&id_kat=23&id_tov= - official "NOKS" site, but as I see now "Taiga" is discontinued for now or they just don't show it on the company page.

The second knife is made by "SARO" & is called "Expeditional knife".
a7763841cdb3.jpg

http://www.saro-vorsma.ru/cat.shtml?0-1 - official "SARO" site with several other knifes of this type.
17df33e9ce15.jpg

6a10b4e77bd7.jpg


**Remember that all the dimensions are given in metric system: mm, cm.**

As for your Ugly Stick - I really like the 4th version:
20f48kh.jpg


It would be great if the front part of the blade will have bigger angle for chopping than the end, which is used more for carving.
Also the saw on the spine is useless, but it was discussed several pages ago.
I would rather left one "hook-hole" (really don't know the exact word) for taking off pot from fire. I would also remove "glass-breaker" - it will be more convenient for handling in chopping mode. I have my BK-2 2nd gen with this breaker - I would prefer to use this knife without it - glass-breaker is making very uncomfortable grip while chopping when you hold knife only by the end of its handle.
Used KA-BAR Cutlass machete - very good thing! The blade shape is similar to the shape of the stick I mentioned below. But for serious work KA-BAR lacks thikness, few additional mm would be great.
Also 1095 is good for this Stick. Use 1095 CroVan or pure 1095 - is the matter of thinking.
Don't take me serious - I am new to all the knife things & I am in the beginning of my way))

P.S. Sorry for my English, it is not my native language.
бля, заебался переводить это всё
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Thanks for the response, Camaro, and for the links, too. I will consider your suggestions if I go to a final design. Remember that, even if you're new to knives, it doesn't mean that your suggestions aren't good, so always feel free to comment on any of my designs.

As far as the pommel, it's not really a glass breaker. It serves several other purposes though; it can be used for pounding, but it also provides space for two of the lashing holes, and can be used as a scraper, too.

I agree with you that a pommel extension like that can interfere with swinging the knife for chopping, and if this were just a chopper, I would leave them off. In this case, though, they have other uses.

Yes, the planned steel would be 1095 CroVan, and the thickness would be around 5mm.

Don't worry about your English: it's fine, and you make yourself understood well enough. Your English is certainly far, far better than my Russian, which, sadly, is nonexistent.
 
Horn Dog said:
The ugly stick reminds me of the old Soviet Spetznaz machete.

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HD, you're the second or third person who's said that in the last two days.:D

I'd never seen one until yesterday. As I explained in an earlier post, the Ugly Stick actually grew out of an old WW 2 USMC Hospital Corpsman's knife, with a couple of other influences. It's just coincidental that it reminds you of the Spetsnatz machete.

What can I say — great minds think alike . . . even if one of them is in Russia?
 
I believe you, dawsonbob. :D I had one of those old USMC Corpsman machetes as my camp tool when I was a kid in the early 60s. It weighed a ton (or so it seemed to a skinny kid). But it could dig, chop, and pound in tent stakes. :D
 
I never ever use a sharp object to pound in tent stakes anymore, after I let a friend use a hatchet to put in the stakes and he destroyed a brand new tent that was less than a week old. D'oh!
 
Horn Dog said:
I believe you, dawsonbob. :D I had one of those old USMC Corpsman machetes as my camp tool when I was a kid in the early 60s. It weighed a ton (or so it seemed to a skinny kid). But it could dig, chop, and pound in tent stakes. :D
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Hey, me too, Horn Dog! I had one as a kid, and I loved it! I left it in my dad's garage when I went to Vietnam, and somehow it went missing while I was over there. I've wanted another one ever since, but you can't find them for a reasonable price now, so I designed my own. It's a little different, but essentially the same (it's here on the Becker forum somewhere).

Anyway, a lot of what ifs and whatdoyathinks later, and the Ugly Stick was what emerged. It's smaller (8 inch blade) and lighter than the old USMC Corpsman machete, but it will do all the same things . . . and more.

I also designed a smaller companion knife to go with it that would be pretty neat. We'll see if KA-BAR ever picks it up (not holding my breath).
 
MustardMan said:
I never ever use a sharp object to pound in tent stakes anymore, after I let a friend use a hatchet to put in the stakes and he destroyed a brand new tent that was less than a week old. D'oh!
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I had that happen too. My buddy pounded on the down stroke, and ripped the tent on the up stroke. Some people should never be trusted with tools . . . especially sharp ones.
 
The rounded end of the machete (I thought it was a bolo then) was great for ditching the tent. We used those old surplus USMC shelter halves back then. The broad flat heavy blade was easier to hammer our homemade tent pegs in than a boy scout axe was. Later I got real scout stuff, but my initial outfitter was the local surplus store in Beaufort, SC (home of Parris Island). You could get a lot of great gear with paper route money in those days. That old USMC Corpmans machete was a real survival knife! :D
 
Horn Dog said:
The rounded end of the machete (I thought it was a bolo then) was great for ditching the tent. We used those old surplus USMC shelter halves back then. The broad flat heavy blade was easier to hammer our homemade tent pegs in than a boy scout axe was. Later I got real scout stuff, but my initial outfitter was the local surplus store in Beaufort, SC (home of Parris Island). You could get a lot of great gear with paper route money in those days. That old USMC Corpmans machete was a real survival knife! :D
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Man, you're bringing back memories. I was a Marine brat, so almost everything I had at first was USMC surplus. I still hate shelter halves, but man, did I love that old Corpsman's machete, which I thought of as a bolo back then, too — so much so, that I still call it a bolo, even though I know it's not. Yeah, I, too, think that was an outstanding survival tool, and I'd dearly love to have another one someday.

If KA-BAR ever produces the Ugly Stick — maybe after the folder (see here http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=735207) — I'll be a happy camper . . . or survival dude.:D
 
I was a Navy brat, so I grew up around Marines. Dad was a tech rep with a Marine air wing in those days. All my gear was USMC. Heck, even my scout leaders were Marines. Naturally, I went in the Air Force and later the Army. :eek: I hope you can get that camp tool made. It would be cool.
 
Horn Dog said:
I was a Navy brat, so I grew up around Marines. Dad was a tech rep with a Marine air wing in those days. All my gear was USMC. Heck, even my scout leaders were Marines. Natually, I went in the Air Force and later the Army. :eek:
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You must have had pretty much the same kind of childhood that I did, then. It was a little different than most kids had, but looking back, I wouldn't trade it for the world.

I ended up going in the Marine Corps for nine years, till I got one too many ouchies, and they made me go home. Hell, I'd probably still be there as the oldest Marine on record if they would have let me stay; I always was too dumb to quit.:D
 
I was going to join out of highschool I had the classic mentality of wanting to blow $h!t up and fight for my country but in was rejected for my weight I never even received a draft card
 
I was going into the marines when I graduated college, but I got a bone tumor and now have a metal plate and screws. So no marines for me.
Also Bob I like the version that's not got a sharp top edge so you can baton.
 
SilentJohn said:
I was going to join out of highschool I had the classic mentality of wanting to blow $h!t up and fight for my country but in was rejected for my weight I never even received a draft card
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Wanting to serve your country is never a bad thing. I would imagine that it was disheartening to be rejected.
 
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